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Public Bill Committee: 19 July 2011                     

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Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill continued

 
 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

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Parliamentary Star    

Clause  22,  page  18,  line  18,  at end insert—

 

‘(11A)    

The Lord Chancellor may not, in regulations under this Part, make prescriptions

 

which would require—

 

(a)    

an individual with £3,000 or less to make any capital based contribution

 

to the cost of legal services,

 

(b)    

capital, whether real or nominal, in a primary dwelling, to be taken into

 

account when assessing capital eligibility under this section,

 

(c)    

an individual with monthly disposable income of less than £316 to make

 

any income based contribution towards the cost of legal services,

 

(d)    

an individual with monthly disposable income of between £316 and

 

£733, to make a contribution which exceeds 30 per cent. of disposable

 

monthly income.

 

(11B)    

The Lord Chancellor may, by Regulations, amend the capital and income

 

eligibility thresholds provided for in paragraphs (b)(i), (iii) and (iv) to take

 

account of variations in the value of sterling.’.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

42

 

Schedule  2,  page  121,  line  15,  leave out ‘payable’ and insert ‘due’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

43

 

Schedule  2,  page  121,  line  27,  leave out ‘section 23’ and insert ‘MVO regulations’.

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

117

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  25,  page  20,  line  3,  leave out subsection (3).

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

108

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  26,  page  20,  line  34,  leave out subsections (1) to (4) and insert—

 

‘(1)    

Subject to subsection (2) the Lord Chancellor may discharge his duty under

 

section 1(1) by arranging for services to be provided by telephone or by other

 

electronic means.

 

(2)    

The Lord Chancellor may not arrange for services to be provided by telephone or

 

electronic means where an individual requests that advice be provided in person.

 

(3)    

An individual who qualifies under this Part for representation for the purposes of

 

any civil or criminal legal services may select any representative or

 

representatives willing to act for the individual, subject to regulations under

 

subsection (6).’.


 
 

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Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

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Parliamentary Star    

Clause  26,  page  21,  line  24,  leave out subsections (8) to (10).

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

110

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  27,  page  21,  leave out line 39.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

111

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  27,  page  21,  leave out lines 44 and 45 and insert—

 

‘(3)    

The withdrawal of a right to representation previously granted to an individual

 

shall not affect the’.

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

112

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  28,  page  22,  line  8,  after ‘body’, insert ‘exercising functions of the Lord

 

Chancellor or the Director pursuant to section 5 or regulations made under that section,

 

including a body’.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

44

 

Schedule  3,  page  122,  line  26,  leave out ‘the person’s rights’ and insert ‘any rights

 

of the person’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

45

 

Schedule  3,  page  122,  line  26,  leave out ‘under European Union law’ and insert

 

‘that are enforceable EU rights’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

46

 

Schedule  3,  page  123,  line  22,  leave out ‘or other body’ and insert ‘, tribunal or

 

other person’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

47

 

Schedule  3,  page  123,  line  43,  after ‘determined’ insert ‘(provisionally or

 

otherwise)’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

48

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  18,  at end insert—


 
 

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      ‘()  

The Director may not make a provisional determination under sub-paragraph

 

(2)(b) unless authorised to do so by regulations under sub-paragraph (8).’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

49

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  31,  leave out sub-paragraph (10).

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

50

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  38,  after ‘determination’ insert ‘made’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

51

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  39,  leave out ‘under section 15’ and insert ‘in reliance

 

on section 17 or 18’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

52

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  40,  after ‘under’ insert ‘sub-paragraph (2)(b) made

 

otherwise than in reliance on’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

53

 

Schedule  3,  page  125,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘7A      

In Schedule 2, references to criminal legal aid include advice, assistance and

 

representation required to be made available under paragraph 4 or 5 of this

 

Schedule.’.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

54

 

Clause  31,  page  23,  line  23,  leave out ‘an individual’s rights’ and insert ‘any rights

 

of an individual’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

55

 

Clause  31,  page  23,  line  23,  leave out ‘under European Union law’ and insert ‘that

 

are enforceable EU rights’.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

56

 

Clause  38,  page  27,  line  12,  leave out ‘body’ and insert ‘person’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

113

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  38,  page  27,  leave out lines 32 to 34.


 
 

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Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

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Parliamentary Star    

Clause  38,  page  27,  line  38,  leave out from ‘section’ to ‘(6)’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

115

 

Parliamentary Star    

Clause  38,  page  27,  line  39,  leave out ‘or (8)’.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

57

 

Clause  39,  page  28,  line  4,  leave out ‘body’ and insert ‘person’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

58

 

Clause  39,  page  28,  line  29,  leave out from ‘19(4)’ to end of line 31.

 


 

New Clauses relating to part 1

 

Principles for the exercise of Lord Chancellor’s functions

 

Mr Andy Slaughter

 

NC1

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

In exercising his functions under this Act, the Lord Chancellor must have regard

 

to the principles in subsection (2).

 

(2)    

Those principles are—

 

(a)    

access to justice is the constitutional right of each citizen;

 

(b)    

the right of access to justice applies equally to civil and criminal law;

 

(c)    

the interests of the citizen should determine policy on access to justice

 

issues, not those of the providers of services;

 

(d)    

the constitutional right to be regarded as innocent until proven guilty

 

should be respected as the cardinal principle of criminal law;

 

(e)    

promoting access to justice requires policies across a range of areas

 

including law reform, education and legal services; and

 

(f)    

proposals for reform should take account of levels of resources but the

 

availability of resources should not dictate policy.’.

 



 
 

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Alternative funding arrangements for legal aid

 

Mr Andy Slaughter

 

NC2

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘The Lord Chancellor may by regulations make provision for alternative sources

 

of funding to support the provision of Legal Aid.’.

 


 

Wasted cost orders in civil proceedings

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

NC3

 

Parliamentary Star    

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

Where a case is funded in accordance with section 8, the costs of and incidental

 

to proceedings in any Courts or Tribunals listed at Schedule 1, Part 3 shall be in

 

the discretion of the Tribunal or Court in which the proceedings take place save

 

insofar as subsection (2) has effect.

 

(2)    

A Tribunal must make a wasted costs order against a public authority where the

 

court or the Ministry of Justice has incurred costs as a result of any improper,

 

unreasonable or negligent act or omission on the part of the local authority or any

 

of its representatives including:

 

(a)    

an administrative failure which could have been prevented by due

 

diligence at individual or organisational level,

 

(b)    

a failure to make out an arguable case against the individual on the basis

 

of the facts and the law,

 

(c)    

a failure to concede a case at any stage where due to any new

 

development, whether evidential or legal, there is no longer an arguable

 

case against an individual,

 

(d)    

a fundamental misunderstanding or ignorance of the facts or the law in a

 

case which could have been prevented by the exercise of due diligence, or

 

(e)    

a delay in providing or failure to provide relevant information or

 

evidence, which could not be obtained otherwise than from the public

 

authority, without reasonable justification.

 

(3)    

A costs award under section 2 may reimburse the legal aid fund in the sum of any

 

amount of any costs which the Court or Tribunal assesses as flowing from the act

 

or omission.

 

(4)    

Where the Court or Tribunal concludes that proceedings before it would not have

 

been required, or would have been shorter or otherwise less expensive were not

 

for the act or omission, it may order that costs be paid to the Tribunal.

 

(5)    

Wasted costs awarded in accordance with subsection (3) and (4) above must not

 

exceed the amount of the actual wasted expenditure resulting from the act or

 

omission.

 

(6)    

For the purposes of this section “public authority” has the same meaning as in

 

section 6 of the Human Rights Act 1998.’.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee: 19 July 2011                     

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Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

116

 

Parliamentary Star    

Schedule  6,  page  142,  line  18,  leave out from ‘proceedings’ to ‘under’ and insert

 

‘in the Crown Court including an appeal’.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

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Schedule  7,  page  153,  line  36,  leave out ‘33B’ and insert ‘33B(1)(d)’.

 

 

Order of the House [29 JUNE 2011]

 

That the following provisions shall apply to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment

 

of Offenders Bill—

 

Committal

 

1.    

The Bill shall be committed to a Public Bill Committee.

 

Proceedings in Public Bill Committee

 

2.    

Proceedings in the Public Bill Committee shall (so far as not previously

 

concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Thursday 13 October 2011.

 

3.    

The Public Bill Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on

 

which it meets.

 

Consideration and Third Reading

 

4.    

Proceedings on Consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be

 

brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the

 

day on which those proceedings are commenced.

 

5.    

Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be

 

brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on that day.

 

6.    

Standing Order No. 83B (Programming committees) shall not apply to

 

proceedings on Consideration and Third Reading.

 

Other proceedings

 

7.    

Any other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on

 

consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further messages from the

 

Lords) may be programmed.

 

 

Order of the Committee [12 JULY 2011, as amended on 14 july 2011]

 

That—

 

(1)  

the Committee shall (in addition to its first meeting at 10.30 am on Tuesday

 

12 July) meet—

 

(a)  

at 4.00 pm on Tuesday 12 July;

 

(b)  

at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 14 July;

 

(c)  

at 9.00 am and 1.30 pm on Tuesday 19 July;

 

(d)  

at 10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 6 September;


 
 

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(e)  

at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 8 September;

 

(f)  

at 10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 13 September;

 

(g)  

at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 15 September;

 

(h)  

at 10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 11 October;

 

(i)  

at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 13 October;

 

(2)  

the Committee shall hear oral evidence in accordance with the following

 

Table:

 

      TABLE

 

Date

Time

Witness

 
 

Tuesday 12 July

Until no later

Criminal Justice Alliance; Prison

 
  

than 11.30 am

Reform Trust; Howard League for

 
   

Penal Reform

 
 

Tuesday 12 July

Until no later

NAPO; Prison Officers’ Association

 
  

than 12 noon

  
 

Tuesday 12 July

Until no later

Commissioner for Victims and

 
  

than 12.30 pm

Witnesses; Victim Support

 
 

Tuesday 12 July

Until no later

Magistrates’ Association

 
  

than 1.00 pm

  
 

Tuesday 12 July

Until no later

Law Society; Bar Council; Family

 
  

than 5.00 pm

Mediation Council; Leigh Day & Co

 
   

Solicitors

 
 

Tuesday 12 July

Until no later

Director of Public Prosecutions

 
  

than 5.20 pm

  
 

Tuesday 12 July

Until no later

Legal Services Commission

 
  

than 5.40 pm

  
 

Thursday 14 July

Until no later

Rights of Women; National

 
  

than 9.40 am

Federation of Women’s Institutes

 
 

Thursday 14 July

Until no later

G4S; Sodexo

 
  

than 10.25 am

  
 

Thursday 14 July

Until no later

Shelter; Citizens Advice Bureau;

 
  

than 2.15 pm

Law Centres Federation; Advice

 
   

Services Alliance; R3

 
 

Thursday 14 July

Until no later

Liberty; Justice; Legal Action Group

 
  

than 3.00 pm

  
 

Thursday 14 July

Until no later

NSPCC; Local Government

 
  

than 3.45 pm

Association; Standing Committee on

 
   

Youth Justice; Children’s

 
   

Commissioner for England

 
 

Thursday 14 July

Until no later

Association of British Insurers;

 
  

than 4.30 pm

Association of Personal Injury

 
   

Lawyers; Action Against Medical

 
   

Accidents

 
 

(3)  

proceedings on consideration of the Bill in Committee shall be taken in the


 
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