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(11B)    

The Lord Chancellor may, by regulations, amend the capital and income

 

eligibility thresholds provided for in paragraphs (b)(i), (iii) and (iv) to take

 

account of variations in the value of sterling.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 23 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  42

 

Schedule  2,  page  121,  line  15,  leave out ‘payable’ and insert ‘due’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  43

 

Schedule  2,  page  121,  line  27,  leave out ‘section 23’ and insert ‘MVO regulations’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 24 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Withdrawn  117

 

Clause  25,  page  20,  line  3,  leave out subsection (3).

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  108

 

Clause  26,  page  20,  line  34,  leave out subsections (1) to (4) and insert—

 

‘(1)    

Subject to subsection (2) the Lord Chancellor may discharge his duty under

 

section 1(1) by arranging for services to be provided by telephone or by other

 

electronic means.

 

(2)    

The Lord Chancellor may not arrange for services to be provided by telephone or

 

electronic means where an individual requests that advice be provided in person.

 

(3)    

An individual who qualifies under this Part for representation for the purposes of

 

any civil or criminal legal services may select any representative or

 

representatives willing to act for the individual, subject to regulations under

 

subsection (6).’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  109

 

Clause  26,  page  21,  line  24,  leave out subsections (8) to (10).


 
 

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Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Withdrawn  110

 

Clause  27,  page  21,  leave out line 39.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Withdrawn  111

 

Clause  27,  page  21,  leave out lines 44 and 45 and insert—

 

‘(3)    

The withdrawal of a right to representation previously granted to an individual

 

shall not affect the’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Withdrawn  112

 

Clause  28,  page  22,  line  8,  after ‘body’, insert ‘exercising functions of the Lord

 

Chancellor or the Director pursuant to section 5 or regulations made under that section,

 

including a body’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 29 Agreed to.

 

Clause 30 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  44

 

Schedule  3,  page  122,  line  26,  leave out ‘the person’s rights’ and insert ‘any rights

 

of the person’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  45

 

Schedule  3,  page  122,  line  26,  leave out ‘under European Union law’ and insert

 

‘that are enforceable EU rights’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  46

 

Schedule  3,  page  123,  line  22,  leave out ‘or other body’ and insert ‘, tribunal or

 

other person’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  47

 

Schedule  3,  page  123,  line  43,  after ‘determined’ insert ‘(provisionally or


 
 

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otherwise)’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  48

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  18,  at end insert—

 

      ‘()  

The Director may not make a provisional determination under sub-paragraph

 

(2)(b) unless authorised to do so by regulations under sub-paragraph (8).’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  49

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  31,  leave out sub-paragraph (10).

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  50

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  38,  after ‘determination’ insert ‘made’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  51

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  39,  leave out ‘under section 15’ and insert ‘in reliance

 

on section 17 or 18’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  52

 

Schedule  3,  page  124,  line  40,  after ‘under’ insert ‘sub-paragraph (2)(b) made

 

otherwise than in reliance on’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  53

 

Schedule  3,  page  125,  line  11,  at end insert—

 

‘7A      

In Schedule 2, references to criminal legal aid include advice, assistance and

 

representation required to be made available under paragraph 4 or 5 of this

 

Schedule.’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  54

 

Clause  31,  page  23,  line  23,  leave out ‘an individual’s rights’ and insert ‘any rights

 

of an individual’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  55

 

Clause  31,  page  23,  line  23,  leave out ‘under European Union law’ and insert ‘that

 

are enforceable EU rights’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clauses 32 to 36 Agreed to.

 

Schedule 4 Agreed to.


 
 

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Clause 37 Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  173

 

Schedule  5,  page  130,  line  32,  at end insert—

 

Children and Young Persons Act 1969 (c. 54)

 

3A  (1)  

Section 23(5A) of the Children and Young Persons Act 1969 (restrictions on

 

imposing security requirement on child or young person who is not legally

 

represented) is amended as follows.

 

      (2)  

In paragraph (a)—

 

(a)    

for the words from the beginning to “but the right” substitute

 

“representation was provided to the child or young person under Part

 

1 of the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2011

 

for the purposes of the proceedings but”, and

 

(b)    

for “to be granted such a right” substitute “for such representation”.

 

      (3)  

In paragraph (aa) for “to be granted a right to it” substitute “for such

 

representation”.

 

3B  (1)  

In section 23 of that Act as it has effect pursuant to section 98 of the Crime and

 

Disorder Act 1998 (restrictions on remand of boy who is not legally

 

represented), subsection (4A) is amended as follows.

 

      (2)  

In paragraph (a)—

 

(a)    

for the words from the beginning to “but the right” substitute

 

“representation was provided to the person under Part 1 of the Legal

 

Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2011 for the

 

purposes of the proceedings but”, and

 

(b)    

for “to be granted such a right” substitute “for such representation”.

 

      (3)  

In paragraph (aa) for “to be granted a right to it” substitute “for such

 

representation”.’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  174

 

Schedule  5,  page  131,  leave out lines 34 to 37.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  175

 

Schedule  5,  page  132,  line  43,  leave out ‘relating to’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  176

 

Schedule  5,  page  133,  line  21,  leave out ‘the end’ and insert ‘“Service”’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  177

 

Schedule  5,  page  134,  line  1,  after ‘for’, insert ‘by him’.


 
 

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Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  178

 

Schedule  5,  page  134,  line  2,  after ‘substitute’, insert ‘by the barrister’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  179

 

Schedule  5,  page  138,  line  3,  after ‘for’, insert ‘under’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  180

 

Schedule  5,  page  138,  line  20,  leave out ‘Section 33’ and insert ‘Sections 33(2) and

 

34’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  181

 

Schedule  5,  page  140,  line  5,  at end insert—

 

‘Equality Act 2010 (c. 15)

 

68         

In Part 1 of Schedule 19 to the Equality Act 2010 (public authorities) omit

 

“The Legal Services Commission.”

 

Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc Act 2010 (c. 38)

 

69         

In section 23(1)(d) (general power to disclose information) omit “the Legal

 

Services Commission,”.’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  182

 

Schedule  5,  page  140,  line  10,  in column 2, at end insert—

 

‘( )    

paragraph 1;’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  183

 

Schedule  5,  page  140,  line  12,  in column 2, leave out ‘and 11’ and insert ‘to 12’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  184

 

Schedule  5,  page  140,  line  13,  in column 2, leave out ‘16’ and insert ‘15’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  185

 

Schedule  5,  page  140,  line  17,  in column 2, at end insert—

 

‘( )    

paragraph 45;’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  186

 

Schedule  5,  page  140,  line  42,  in column 2, at beginning insert ‘In Schedule 16,

 

paragraphs 51(4) and 108(c).’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  187

 

Schedule  5,  page  141,  line  9,  in column 2, leave out ‘paragraph’ and insert


 
 

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‘paragraphs 65 and’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  56

 

Clause  38,  page  27,  line  12,  leave out ‘body’ and insert ‘person’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not moved  113

 

Clause  38,  page  27,  leave out lines 32 to 34.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  114

 

Clause  38,  page  27,  line  38,  leave out from ‘25’ to ‘(6)’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  115

 

Clause  38,  page  27,  line  39,  leave out ‘or (8)’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  57

 

Clause  39,  page  28,  line  4,  leave out ‘body’ and insert ‘person’.

 

Mr Jonathan Djanogly

 

Agreed to  58

 

Clause  39,  page  28,  line  29,  leave out from ‘19(4)’ to end of line 31.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Clause 40 Agreed to.

 


 

New Clauses relating to part 1

 

Principles for the exercise of Lord Chancellor’s functions

 

Mr Andy Slaughter

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  NC1

 

To move the following Clause:—


 
 

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‘(1)    

In exercising his functions under this Act, the Lord Chancellor must have regard

 

to the principles in subsection (2).

 

(2)    

Those principles are—

 

(a)    

access to justice is the constitutional right of each citizen;

 

(b)    

the right of access to justice applies equally to civil and criminal law;

 

(c)    

the interests of the citizen should determine policy on access to justice

 

issues, not those of the providers of services;

 

(d)    

the constitutional right to be regarded as innocent until proven guilty

 

should be respected as the cardinal principle of criminal law;

 

(e)    

promoting access to justice requires policies across a range of areas

 

including law reform, education and legal services; and

 

(f)    

proposals for reform should take account of levels of resources but the

 

availability of resources should not dictate policy.’.

 


 

Alternative funding arrangements for legal aid

 

Mr Andy Slaughter

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Withdrawn  NC2

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘The Lord Chancellor may by regulations make provision for alternative sources

 

of funding to support the provision of Legal Aid.’.

 


 

Wasted cost orders in civil proceedings

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Withdrawn  NC3

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

Where a case is funded in accordance with section 8, the costs of and incidental

 

to proceedings in any Courts or Tribunals listed at Schedule 1, Part 3 shall be in

 

the discretion of the Tribunal or Court in which the proceedings take place save

 

insofar as subsection (2) has effect.

 

(2)    

A Tribunal must make a wasted costs order against a public authority where the

 

court or the Ministry of Justice has incurred costs as a result of any improper,

 

unreasonable or negligent act or omission on the part of the local authority or any

 

of its representatives including—

 

(a)    

an administrative failure which could have been prevented by due

 

diligence at individual or organisational level,

 

(b)    

a failure to make out an arguable case against the individual on the basis

 

of the facts and the law,

 

(c)    

a failure to concede a case at any stage where due to any new

 

development, whether evidential or legal, there is no longer an arguable

 

case against an individual,


 
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