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Consideration of Bill: 31 October 2011                  

3801

 

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, continued

 
 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

Nick de Bois

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Heather Wheeler

 

Mike Freer

 

Lorraine Fullbrook

 

Total signatories: 42

 

154

 

Page  93,  line  41  [Clause  113],  leave out from beginning to end of line 4 on page 94

 

and insert—

 

‘(5)    

Where a person aged 16 or over is convicted of an offence under this section, the

 

court must impose an appropriate custodial sentence (with or without a fine)

 

unless the court is of the opinion that there are particular circumstances which—

 

(a)    

relate to the offence or to the offender, and

 

(b)    

would make it unjust to do so in all the circumstances.

 

(5A)    

In this section “appropriate custodial sentence” means—

 

(a)    

in the case of a person who is aged 18 or over when convicted, a sentence

 

of imprisonment for a term of at least 6 months;

 

(b)    

in the case of a person who is aged at least 16 but under 18 when

 

convicted, a detention and training order of at least 4 months.

 

(5B)    

In considering whether it is of the opinion mentioned in subsection (5) in the case

 

of a person aged under 18, the court must have regard to its duty under section 44

 

of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933.”’.

 

Sadiq Khan

 

Mr Andy Slaughter

 

Mrs Jenny Chapman

 

73

 

Page  93,  line  41  [Clause  113],  leave out ‘aged 18 or over’.

 


 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

Nick de Bois

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Heather Wheeler

 

Mike Freer

 

Lorraine Fullbrook

 

Total signatories: 42

 

155

 

Page  94,  line  10  [Clause  113],  leave out ‘(5)’ and insert ‘(5A)(a)’.

 



 
 

Consideration of Bill: 31 October 2011                  

3802

 

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, continued

 
 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

Nick de Bois

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Heather Wheeler

 

Mike Freer

 

Lorraine Fullbrook

 

Total signatories: 42

 

156

 

Page  95,  line  1  [Clause  113],  leave out from beginning to end of line 6 and insert—

 

‘(7)    

Where a person aged 16 or over is convicted of an offence under this section, the

 

court must impose an appropriate custodial sentence (with or without a fine)

 

unless the court is of the opinion that there are particular circumstances which—

 

(a)    

relate to the offence or to the offender, and

 

(b)    

would make it unjust to do so in all the circumstances.

 

(7A)    

In this section “appropriate custodial sentence” means—

 

(a)    

in the case of a person who is aged 18 or over when convicted, a sentence

 

of imprisonment for a term of at least 6 months;

 

(b)    

in the case of a person who is aged at least 16 but under 18 when

 

convicted, a detention and training order of at least 4 months.

 

(7B)    

In considering whether it is of the opinion mentioned in subsection (7) in the case

 

of a person aged under 18, the court must have regard to its duty under section 44

 

of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933.”’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

Nick de Bois

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Heather Wheeler

 

Mike Freer

 

Lorraine Fullbrook

 

Total signatories: 42

 

157

 

Page  95,  line  12  [Clause  113],  leave out ‘(7)’ and insert ‘(7A)(a)’.

 


 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

133

 

Page  96,  line  13  [Clause  115],  leave out ‘or transitional’ and insert ‘transitional,

 

transitory or saving’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

134

 

Page  96,  line  14  [Clause  115],  leave out ‘Parts 1 to 3 of’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

135

 

Page  96,  line  16  [Clause  115],  leave out from ‘legislation’ to end of line 17.

 



 
 

Consideration of Bill: 31 October 2011                  

3803

 

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, continued

 
 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

51

 

Page  97,  line  13  [Clause  118],  leave out ‘Section 114 extends’ and insert ‘The

 

following provisions extend’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

52

 

Page  97,  line  13  [Clause  118],  at end insert ‘—

 

(a)    

sections 104 and 105, and

 

(b)    

section 114.’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

53

 

Page  97,  line  17  [Clause  118],  leave out from ‘32,’ to end of line 18.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

54

 

Page  97,  line  17  [Clause  118],  after ‘32,’ insert—

 

‘( )    

section [Northern Ireland: information about financial resources] and

 

Schedule [Northern Ireland: information about financial resources],

 

( )    

sections 38 to 40,’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

136

 

Page  97,  line  24  [Clause  118],  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

Subsection (5) does not apply to section [Reasonable force for the purposes of

 

self-defence etc] (which extends to England and Wales only).’.

 


 

Mrs Jenny Chapman

 

Mr Andy Slaughter

 

114

 

Page  172,  line  1  [Schedule  10],  leave out paragraphs 7 to 18.

 


 

Mrs Jenny Chapman

 

Mr Andy Slaughter

 

115

 

Page  173,  line  26  [Schedule  10],  leave out paragraphs 19 to 23.

 



 
 

Consideration of Bill: 31 October 2011                  

3804

 

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, continued

 
 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

20

 

Page  185,  line  12  [Schedule  14],  leave out sub-paragraph (3).

 


 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

Nick de Bois

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Heather Wheeler

 

Mike Freer

 

Lorraine Fullbrook

 

Total signatories: 42

 

158

 

Page  195,  line  34  [Schedule  17],  at end insert—

 

‘10A      

In section 100 (offenders under 18: detention and training orders) after

 

subsection (1) insert—

 

“(1A)    

Subsection (1) applies with the omission of paragraph (b) in the case

 

of an offence the sentence for which falls to be imposed under these

 

provisions—

 

(a)    

section 1A of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953 (threatening

 

with weapon in public);

 

(b)    

section 139AA of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (threatening  

 

with article with blade or point or offensive weapon).”’.

 


 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

Nick de Bois

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Heather Wheeler

 

Mike Freer

 

Lorraine Fullbrook

 

Total signatories: 42

 

159

 

Page  196,  line  24  [Schedule  17],  leave out ‘1A(5)’ and insert ‘1A(5A)(a)’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

Nick de Bois

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Heather Wheeler

 

Mike Freer

 

Lorraine Fullbrook

 

Total signatories: 42

 

160

 

Page  196,  line  27  [Schedule  17],  leave out ‘139AA(7)’ and insert ‘139AA(7A)(a)’.


 
 

Consideration of Bill: 31 October 2011                  

3805

 

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, continued

 
 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

Nick de Bois

 

Mr David Burrowes

 

Heather Wheeler

 

Mike Freer

 

Lorraine Fullbrook

 

Total signatories: 42

 

161

 

Page  196,  line  27  [Schedule  17],  at end insert—

 

‘(4)    

In the case of an offence the sentence for which falls to be imposed under a

 

provision mentioned in subsection (5), nothing in that provision prevents the

 

court from imposing any sentence that it considers appropriate after taking into

 

account any matter referred to in subsection (1) of this section.

 

(5)    

The provisions referred to in subsection (4) are—

 

section 1A(5A)(b) of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953;

 

section 139AA(7A)(b) of the Criminal Justice Act 1988.”’.

 


 

REMAINING PROCEEDINGS ON CONSIDERATION

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

139

 

Title,  line  3,  after ‘proceedings;’ insert ‘to make provision about referral fees in

 

connection with the provision of legal services;’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

140

 

Title,  line  10,  at end insert ‘; to create a new offence relating to squatting’.

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

141

 

Title,  line  10,  at end insert ‘; and to amend section 76 of the Criminal Justice and

 

Immigration Act 2008’.

 

 

Order of the House [29 JUNE 2011]

 

That the following provisions shall apply to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment

 

of Offenders Bill—

 

Committal

 

1.    

The Bill shall be committed to a Public Bill Committee.

 

Proceedings in Public Bill Committee

 

2.    

Proceedings in the Public Bill Committee shall (so far as not previously

 

concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Thursday 13 October 2011.

 

3.    

The Public Bill Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on

 

which it meets.


 
 

Consideration of Bill: 31 October 2011                  

3806

 

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, continued

 
 

Consideration and Third Reading

 

4.    

Proceedings on Consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be

 

brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the

 

day on which those proceedings are commenced.

 

5.    

Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be

 

brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on that day.

 

6.    

Standing Order No. 83B (Programming committees) shall not apply to

 

proceedings on Consideration and Third Reading.

 

Other proceedings

 

7.    

Any other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on

 

consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further messages from the

 

Lords) may be programmed.

 

 

Legal AiD, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders BILL

 

(PROGRAMME) (No. 2)

 

Secretary Kenneth Clarke

 

That the Order of 29 June 2011 (Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders

 

Bill (Programme)) be varied as follows:

 

1.  

Paragraphs 4 and 5 of the Order shall be omitted.

 

2.  

Proceedings on consideration and Third Reading shall be concluded in three

 

days.

 

3.  

Proceedings on consideration shall be taken in the order shown in the first

 

column of the following Table.

 

4.  

The Proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a

 

conclusion at the times specified in the second column of the Table.

 

Proceedings

Time for conclusion of

 
  

proceedings

 
 

Amendments to, and New Clauses and New Schedules

10.00 pm on the first day

 
 

relating to, Clauses 7 and 8 and Schedule 1.

  
 

New Clauses and New Schedules relating to sentences

6.00 pm on the second

 
 

of imprisonment or detention for public protection, life

day

 
 

sentences, extended sentences and the release and recall

  
 

of extended sentence prisoners.

  
 

New Clauses and New Schedules relating to referral

8.00 pm on the second

 
 

fees; New Clauses and New Schedules relating to fines

day

 
 

on conviction in magistrates’ courts.

  
 

New Clauses and New Schedules relating to section 76

10.00 pm on the second

 
 

of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008; New

day

 
 

Clauses and New Schedules relating to squatting.

  
 

New Clauses and New Schedules relating to, and

6.00 pm on the third day

 
 

amendments to, Part 1 (other than Clauses 7 and 8 and

  
 

Schedule 1); New Clauses and New Schedules relating

  
 

to, and amendments to, Part 2; remaining New Clauses;

  
 

remaining New Schedules; amendments to Parts 3 and

  
 

4; remaining proceedings on consideration.

  

 
 

Consideration of Bill: 31 October 2011                  

3807

 

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, continued

 
 

5.  

Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be

 

brought to a conclusion at 7.00 pm on the third day.

 

 

NOTICES WITHDRAWN

 

The following Notices have been withdrawn:

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

79

 

Page  99,  line  17  [Schedule  1],  leave out ‘3, 8 and 12’ and insert ‘and 3’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

84

 

Page  110,  line  14  [Schedule  1],  leave out ‘6, 8 and 12’ and insert ‘and 6’.

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

87

 

Page  110,  line  41  [Schedule  1],  leave out ‘6, 8 and 12’ and insert ‘and 6’.

 


 
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