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House of Commons

 
 

Thursday 8 November 2012

 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

 

Public Service Pensions Bill


 

[Third and Fourth Sittings]


 

Clause 1 Agreed to.

 

Sajid Javid

 

Agreed to  25

 

Schedule  1,  page  22,  line  29,  at end insert ‘and of the Police Service of Northern

 

Ireland Reserve, police trainees, police reserve trainees and police cadets’.

 

Schedule, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Withdrawn  72

 

Clause  22,  page  12,  line  35,  at end insert—

 

‘(10)    

When scheme regulations make provision under this section for the participation

 

of persons not in public service, the relevant responsible authority shall calculate

 

and publish—

 

(a)    

the cost to the scheme of participation by those persons not in public

 

service; and

 

(b)    

how those costs will be funded.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Clause 2 Agreed to.

 

Schedule 2 Agreed to.

 

Sajid Javid

 

Agreed to  1

 

Clause  3,  page  2,  line  8,  after second ‘different’ insert ‘purposes or’.


 
 

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Public Service Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Negatived on division  44

 

Clause  3,  page  2,  line  13,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

Scheme regulations shall not make any provision which would have the effect of

 

reducing the amount of any pension, allowance or gratuity, insofar as that amount

 

is directly or indirectly referable to rights which have accrued (whether by virtue

 

of service rendered, contributions paid or any other thing done) before the coming

 

into operation of the scheme, unless the persons specified in subsection (3B) have

 

agreed to the inclusion of that provision.

 

(3B)    

The persons referred to in subsection (3A) are the persons or representatives of

 

the persons who appear to the responsible authority to be likely to be affected by

 

the regulations if they were made.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 

Schedule 3 Agreed to.

 


 

Sajid Javid

 

Agreed to  2

 

Clause  4,  page  2,  line  38,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

Subsection (1) does not apply to a scheme under section 1 which is an injury or

 

compensation scheme.’.

 

Sajid Javid

 

Agreed to  3

 

Clause  4,  page  2,  line  38,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

Scheme regulations may comply with the requirement in subsection (1)(a) or (b)

 

by providing for different persons to be responsible for managing or

 

administering different parts of a scheme (and references in this Act to the

 

“scheme manager”, in such a case, are to be construed accordingly).’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Withdrawn  45

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  4,  leave out ‘following’ and insert ‘in subsection (2).

 

(1A)    

Regulations shall provide for the establishment of a pensions board for each

 

individual pension fund which makes provision for local government workers.’.

 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Withdrawn  46

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  8,  at end insert—

 

‘(b)    

oversight of financial management of the scheme and, in the case of

 

funded schemes, oversight of investment management.’.


 
 

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Public Service Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Withdrawn  47

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  16,  at end insert—

 

‘(i)    

to publish a policy governing the appointment of board

 

members,’.

 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Not called  48

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  24,  at end insert—

 

‘(c)    

requiring that at least one third of pension board members are nominated

 

by members of the scheme; and

 

(d)    

requiring that at least one member of the pension board is an independent

 

board member.’.

 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Not called  49

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  29,  at end insert—

 

‘(5A)    

For a board member to be nominated by scheme members under subsection 4(c)

 

that member must—

 

(a)    

be nominated as the result of a process in which at least the following are

 

eligible to participate—

 

(i)    

all the active members of the scheme or an organisation which

 

adequately represents the active members, and

 

(ii)    

all the pensioner members of the scheme or an organisation

 

which adequately represents the pensioner members, and

 

(b)    

be selected as a result of a process which involves some or all of the

 

members of the scheme.

 

(5B)    

In subsection 4(d) an “independent board member” is a board member who—

 

(a)    

has no interest in the assets of the scheme or of the scheme employer or

 

employers; and

 

(b)    

is neither connected with, nor an associate of, the employer or

 

employers.’.

 

Sajid Javid

 

Agreed to  4

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  30,  leave out subsection (6) and insert—

 

‘(6)    

Where the scheme manager of a scheme under section 1 is a committee of a local

 

authority, the scheme regulations may provide for that committee also to be the

 

board for the purposes of this section.’.

 

Sajid Javid

 

Agreed to  5

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  35,  leave out from ‘(6)’ to end of line 41 and insert ‘“local

 

authority” means—

 

(a)    

a local authority in England and Wales within the meaning of Part 1 of

 

the Local Government and Housing Act 1989;’.


 
 

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Public Service Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Sajid Javid

 

Agreed to  6

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  46,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

This section does not apply to a scheme under section 1 which is an injury or

 

compensation scheme.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Sajid Javid

 

Agreed to  7

 

Clause  6,  page  4,  line  8,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

This section does not apply to a scheme under section 1 which is an injury or

 

compensation scheme’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to.

 


 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Withdrawn  61

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  14,  leave out subsection (1) and insert—

 

‘(1)    

The Treasury shall make directions requiring the scheme manager or responsible

 

authority of a scheme under section 1 to publish scheme information.

 

(1A)    

The Treasury may make directions requiring the scheme manager or responsible

 

authority of a scheme under section 1 to provide scheme information to the

 

Treasury.’.

 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Not called  62

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  leave out lines 20 and 21 and insert ‘Scheme information under

 

subsection (1) shall include, but is not limited to, the following:’.

 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Not called  63

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  26,  at end insert—

 

‘(f)    

full valuation reports.

 

(3A)    

The Treasury may make provision for scheme information to be provided in a

 

specified format.’.

 

Chris Leslie

 

Cathy Jamieson

 

Negatived on division  64

 

Clause  13,  page  8,  line  28,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

The Office of Budget Responsibility shall report at regular intervals specified by

 

the Treasury on the long-term fiscal impact of public service pension schemes.’.


 
 

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Public Service Pensions Bill, continued

 
 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 14 Agreed to.

 


 

[Adjourned until Tuesday 13 November at 8.55 am


 
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