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Committee of the whole House: 30 April 2014              

1930

 

Wales Bill, continued

 
 

‘(3)    

The Secretary of State shall review the historical volatility of stamp duty land tax

 

revenues in Wales, and place a copy of the review in the Library of the House of

 

Commons.’.

 


 

Owen Smith

 

Nia Griffith

 

8

 

Clause  17,  page  20,  line  29,  at end add—

 

‘(3)    

The Secretary of State shall review the historical volatility of landfill tax revenues

 

in Wales, and place a copy of the review in the Library of the House of

 

Commons.’.

 


 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

36

 

Clause  19,  page  21,  line  18,  leave out ‘, with the approval of the Treasury,’.

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

37

 

Clause  19,  page  21,  leave out lines 26 to 31 and insert—

 

‘“(1)    

On receipt of notice of an appropriate resolution of the Assembly, the Secretary

 

of State shall by order amend subsection (1A) so as to vary, in the manner

 

indicated by the terms of such resolution, the means by which Welsh Ministers

 

may borrow money.”.’.

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

These amendments would enable the National Assembly to change the way money for capital

 

expenditure is borrowed, including the issuance of bonds, without the need for consent by the

 

Treasury or Resolution of the House of Commons.

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

35

 

Clause  19,  page  21,  line  31,  at end insert—

 

‘(6)    

The Secretary of State shall make arrangements for an independent report to be

 

compiled on the issuance of bonds by Welsh Ministers.

 

(7)    

The Secretary of State shall lay a copy of the report specified in subsection (6)

 

before each House of Parliament within three months of this Act being passed.’.

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

The Scotland Act 2012 enables the Secretary of State, by order and consent of HM Treasury, to

 

change how Scottish Ministers can borrow money for capital purposes, for example, allowing the

 

issue of bonds. Clause 19(5) of the Wales Bill contains the same provisions. This amendment seeks

 

clarification on the power to issue bonds.


 
 

Committee of the whole House: 30 April 2014              

1931

 

Wales Bill, continued

 
 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

34

 

Clause  19,  page  21,  line  38,  at end insert ‘and if that amount is more than the

 

amount for which it is substituted it shall not thereafter be reduced below that higher

 

amount’.

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This amendment would ensure that when the Secretary of State raises the borrowing for investment

 

limit, it cannot subsequently be reduced.

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

5

 

Clause  19,  page  21,  line  38,  at end insert—

 

‘(3B)    

The figure mentioned in inserted subsection (3A) shall be recalculated on an

 

annual basis to maintain its value in real terms against inflation.’.

 


 

David T. C. Davies

 

Guto Bebb

 

12

 

Clause  21,  page  23,  line  4,  at end insert—

 

‘(1A)    

In Part 1, in paragraph 9 (Health and health services), after “national health

 

service” insert—

 

            

“Organisation and funding (expenditure and income) of the provision

 

of health services in England to people registered with a GP in Wales

 

and the provision of such services in Wales to people registered with

 

a GP in England.”.’.

 

David T. C. Davies

 

Guto Bebb

 

13

 

Clause  21,  page  23,  line  17,  at end insert—

 

‘(d)    

the scrutiny of reductions of, and additions to, the block grant to reflect

 

expenditure and income arising from the provision of certain services in

 

England to people resident or otherwise eligible for such services in

 

Wales and the provision of such services in Wales to people resident or

 

otherwise eligible in England.’.

 

David T. C. Davies

 

Guto Bebb

 

14

 

Clause  21,  page  23,  line  24,  at end insert—

 

‘(g)    

a Welsh Minister responsible for a service falling under section 13(d)

 

(definition of budgetary procedures)’.

 

Secretary David Jones

 

29

 

Clause  21,  page  23,  line  32,  at end insert—


 
 

Committee of the whole House: 30 April 2014              

1932

 

Wales Bill, continued

 
 

‘( )    

in sub-paragraph (2), after paragraph (a) insert—

 

“(aa)    

section 119 in so far as it relates to estimated payments

 

for a financial year into the Welsh Consolidated Fund or

 

to the Welsh Ministers, the First Minister or the Counsel

 

General;”;’.

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This amendment ensures that the Assembly is not prevented from modifying section 119 of GOWA

 

2006 (statement of estimated payments) provided such modification relates to the estimated

 

payments described in the amendment and not to the Secretary of State’s duty in subsection (3) of

 

that section.

 


 

Mr Mark Harper

 

17

 

Clause  22,  page  24,  line  46,  leave out ‘and’.

 

Mr Mark Harper

 

18

 

Clause  22,  page  24,  line  46,  at end insert—

 

‘(ae)    

an estimate of the costs of providing services in Wales to people resident

 

in England; an estimate of the monies received from HM Treasury to

 

fund such provision; and an assessment of the effectiveness of any

 

relevant agreements in place governing cross-border service provision,

 

and’.

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This amendment and amendment 17 to Clause 22 are intended to make the operation of

 

agreements that govern cross-border services, such as the NHS protocol, more transparent to

 

residents of both England and Wales.

 


 

REmaining new clauses relating to part 2

 

Review of options for Barnett formula reform

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

NC1

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

The Secretary of State shall make arrangements for a review of options for

 

reforming the Barnett formula in order to meet the objective of calculating the

 

block grant funding for Wales on the basis of need.

 

(2)    

The Secretary of State shall lay a copy of the report of the review mentioned in

 

subsection (1) before each House of Parliament within six months of this Act

 

receiving Royal Assent.’.

 



 
 

Committee of the whole House: 30 April 2014              

1933

 

Wales Bill, continued

 
 

Cross-border health care

 

Mr Mark Harper

 

NC3

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘After section 1 of the National Health Service (Wales) Act 2006, insert—

 

“1A    

Duty to have regard to impact on services in certain areas

 

In exercising functions relating to the health service, the Welsh Ministers

 

must have regard to the likely impact of those decisions on the provision

 

of health services to persons who reside in an area of England that is close

 

to the border with Wales.”.’.

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This New Clause places a duty on Welsh Ministers to consider the impact of their decisions on the

 

provision of health services to people who reside in England, analagous to a duty already placed

 

on the NHS Commissioning Board in England to consider the impact of its decisions on people

 

residing in Wales and Scotland.

 


 

Owen Smith

 

Nia Griffith

 

38

 

Clause  28,  page  29,  line  34,  after ‘except’, insert ‘sections 8 and 9 and’.

 

Owen Smith

 

Nia Griffith

 

42

 

Clause  28,  page  29,  line  34,  leave out paragraph (2)(b).

 

Owen Smith

 

Nia Griffith

 

39

 

Clause  28,  page  29,  line  36,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

Sections 8 and 9 shall not come into force until a Welsh Government Minister has

 

laid a report before the National Assembly for Wales containing a statement to

 

the effect that the Welsh Government, with regard to the Statement of Funding

 

Policy, is content with the fairness of the arrangements for allocating funding

 

from the UK Government to Wales.

 

(2B)    

Sections 8 and 9 shall be suspended following any substantive reform,

 

amendment or other alteration of the arrangements mentioned in subsection (2A),

 

until the process under subsection (2A) has been repeated.’.

 

Owen Smith

 

Nia Griffith

 

43

 

Clause  28,  page  29,  line  36,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

Part 2, except the referendum-related provisions and sections 19 and 20, will

 

come into force the day after the Secretary of State has laid a report before each

 

House of Parliament on the further legislative steps needed to move to a model of


 
 

Committee of the whole House: 30 April 2014              

1934

 

Wales Bill, continued

 
 

reserved powers for the National Assembly for Wales; the report must be laid

 

within six months of this Act receiving Royal Assent.’.

 


 

REMAINING NEW CLAUSES

 

Crown Estate in Wales

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

NC7

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘Her Majesty may by Order in Council provide for the transfer of legislative

 

responsibility for the Crown Estate in Wales to the National Assembly for

 

Wales.’.

 


 

Crown Estate in Wales:Revenue

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

NC8

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘Revenue raised by the Crown Estate in Wales shall be paid into the Welsh

 

Consolidated Fund.’.

 


 

Crown Estate Commissioner with special responsibility for Wales

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

NC9

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘(1)    

In Schedule 1 to the Crown Estate Act 1961 (Constitution etc of Crown Estate

 

Commissioners), paragraph 1 is amended as follows.

 

(2)    

After sub-paragraph (3) insert—

 

“(3A)    

One of the Commissioners shall be appointed as the Crown Estate

 

Commissioner with special responsibility for Wales, who must be a

 

person who knows about conditions in Wales as they relate to the

 

functions of the Commissioners.”.


 
 

Committee of the whole House: 30 April 2014              

1935

 

Wales Bill, continued

 
 

(3)    

After sub-paragraph (4) insert—

 

“(4A)    

The Crown Estate Commissioner with special responsibility for Wales

 

shall be appointed on the recommendation of the Chancellor of the

 

Exchequer, who shall consult the Welsh Ministers before making that

 

recommendation.”.’.

 


 

Welsh Government Finance Department

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

NC10

 

To move the following Clause:—

 

‘The Welsh Government may, by resolution of the National Assembly for Wales,

 

rename its finance department and this shall be recognised as its official title in

 

all dealings with the Treasury.’.

 


 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

4

 

Title,  line  3,  leave out ‘a rate’ and insert ‘rates’.

 

 

Order of the House [31 March 2014]

 

That the following provisions shall apply to the Wales Bill—

 

Committal

 

1.    

The following shall be committed to a Committee of the whole House.

 

Proceedings in Committee

 

2.    

Proceedings in Committee of the whole House shall be completed in two

 

days.

 

3.    

The proceedings shall be taken on the days shown in the first column of the

 

following Table and in the order so shown.

 

4.    

The Proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a

 

conclusion at the times specified in the second column of the Table.

 


 
 

Committee of the whole House: 30 April 2014              

1936

 

Wales Bill, continued

 
 

TABLE

 

Proceedings

Time for conclusion of proceedings

 
 

First

Day

 
 

Clauses 1 to 5, new Clauses relating to

The moment of interruption on the first

 
 

Part 1, new Schedules relating to Part 1,

day

 
 

Clauses 8 to 11, Schedule 1, Clauses 12

  
 

and 13, new Clauses relating to the

  
 

subject matter of Clauses 8 to 13 and

  
 

Schedule 1, new Schedules relating to

  
 

the subject matter of Clauses 8 to 13 and

  
 

Schedule 1

  
    
 

Second

Day

 
 

Clauses 6 and 7, Clauses 14 and 15,

The moment of interruption on the

 
 

Schedule 2, Clauses 16 to 22, remaining

second day

 
 

new Clauses relating to Part 2,

  
 

remaining new Schedules relating to

  
 

Part 2, Clauses 23 to 29, remaining new

  
 

Clauses, remaining new Schedules,

  
 

remaining proceedings on the Bill

  
 

Consideration and Third Reading

 

5.    

Any proceedings on Consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded)

 

be brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the

 

day on which those proceedings are commenced.

 

6.    

Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be

 

brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on that day.

 

Programming committee

 

7.    

Standing Order No. 83B (Programming committees) shall not apply to

 

proceedings in Committee, to any proceedings on Consideration or to

 

proceedings on Third Reading

 

Other proceedings

 

8.    

Any other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on

 

consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further messages from the

 

Lords) may be programmed.

 


 
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