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SUPPLEMENT TO THE VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS

 
 

Tuesday 16 December 2014

 

Committee of the whole House

 

Proceedings

 

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill


 

[THIRD Day]


 

Clause 21, Schedule 3, Clauses 22 to 27, new Clauses relating to Chapter 1

 

of Part 5, new Schedules relating to Chapter 1 of Part 5, Clauses 28 to 30,

 

Schedule 4, Clauses 31 to 33, new Clauses relating to Chapter 2 of Part 5,

 

new Schedules relating to Chapter 2 of Part 5

 

Hazel Blears

 

Dr Julian Lewis

 

Withdrawn  30

 

Clause  21,  page  13,  line  34,  at end insert “and must also develop capacity to

 

combat and reject the messages of extremism”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This amendment introduces a requirement to support work combating the ideology of extremism

 

as part of preventing people being drawn into terrorism.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Schedule 3 Agreed to.

 

Clauses 22 and 23 Agreed to.

 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Not called  19

 

Clause  24,  page  15,  line  6,   leave out “may” and insert “must”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

Changes it from optional to compulsory for the Secretary of State to issue guidance to accompany

 

the statutory obligation provided for under Clause 21.

 

Hazel Blears

 

Dr Julian Lewis

 

Not called  31

 

Clause  24,  page  15,  line  7,  at end insert—


 
 

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“(1A)    

Any such guidance should include a requirement to develop capacity to combat

 

and reject the messages of extremism”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This amendment introduces a requirement to support work combating the ideology of extremism

 

as part of preventing people being drawn into terrorism.

 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Negatived on division  20

 

Clause  24,  page  15,  line  21,   leave out subsection (5) and insert—

 

“(5)    

Before giving guidance under this section, or revising guidance already given, the

 

Secretary of State must lay before Parliament—

 

(a)    

the proposed guidance or proposed revisions, and

 

(b)    

a draft of an order providing for the guidance, or revisions to the

 

guidance, to come into force.

 

(6)    

The Secretary of State must make the order, and issue the guidance or (as the case

 

may be) make the revisions to the guidance, if the draft of the order is approved

 

by a resolution of each House of Parliament.

 

(7)    

Guidance, or revisions to guidance, come into force in accordance with an order

 

under this section.

 

(8)    

Such an order—

 

(a)    

is to be a statutory instrument, and

 

(b)    

may contain transitional, transitory or saving provision.”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This would ensure that statutory guidance produced under Clause 24 was subject to an affirmative

 

resolution of each House.

 

Clauses 24 to 28 Agreed to.

 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Not called  21

 

Clause  29,  page  17,  line  29,   leave out subsection (7) and insert—

 

“(7)    

To support panels exercising their functions under this section the Secretary of

 

State must—

 

(a)    

provide guidance on the exercise of those functions;

 

(b)    

provide a list of approved providers for de-radicalisation programmes

 

that may be referred to under subsection (4);

 

(c)    

ensure that the providers listed under paragraph (b) are subject to

 

monitoring.”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This would give a greater role to the Secretary of State in supporting the role of local support

 

panels. The Secretary would have to provide guidance (rather than it being optional) and she

 

would also have to provide a list of approved providers for de-radicalisation programmes and

 

ensure they would be subject to monitoring.


 
 

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Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Not called  22

 

Clause  29,  page  17,  line  41,   at end insert—

 

“(c)    

the responsible local healthcare commissioning group; and

 

(d)    

local representative of the National Offender Management Service.”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This would include local health bodies and the probation service on the assessment and support

 

panels.

 

Clauses 29 and 30 Agreed to.

 

Schedule 4 Agreed to.

 

Clauses 31 to 33 Agreed to.

 

Caroline Lucas

 

Negatived on division  NC12

 

To move the following Clause

 

         

“Review of international best practice around deradicalisation

 

(1)    

The Secretary of State Shall, within three months of this Act coming into force,

 

lay before both Houses of Parliament a review into international best practice

 

around deradicalisation.

 

(2)    

The review under subsection (1) shall include in particular—

 

(a)    

examination of best practice in—

 

(i)    

Germany;

 

(ii)    

Denmark;

 

(iii)    

Sweden;

 

(iv)    

other countries as determined by the Secretary of State.

 

(b)    

the role of community-based organisations in developing and delivering

 

strategies to prevent radicalisation and to deradicalise individuals.

 

(c)    

evidence-based recommendations for the rapid implementation of a

 

comprehensive deradicalisation programme in the UK.”

 


 

Part 6, new clauses relating to part 6, new schedules relating to part 6,

 

part 7, remaining new clauses, remaining new schedules, remaining

 

proceedings on the bill

 

Clauses 34 and 35 Agreed to.

 

Schedule 5 Agreed to.

 

Caroline Lucas

 

Not called  NC8

 

To move the following Clause


 
 

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“Police bail for terrorism suspects

 

(1)    

Section 34 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 is amended as follows.

 

(2)    

In subsection (1) after “offence” insert “or on suspicion of being a terrorist under

 

section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000”.

 

(3)    

In subsection (2)(b) after “Act” insert “or section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000".

 

(4)    

After subsection (5) insert—

 

“(5A)    

A grant of bail under this section shall last no longer than six months

 

from the date of release.””

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

As an alternative to the ad hoc passport seizure and retention scheme set out at Clause 1 and

 

Schedule 1 of the Bill this new clause would make police bail, with conditions, available for those

 

suspected of terrorism.

 


 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Withdrawn  24

 

Clause  36,  page  22,  line  14,   leave out subsection (1) and insert—

 

“(1)    

The Secretary of State shall by regulations made by statutory instrument establish

 

a body to—

 

(a)    

provide advice and assistance to the persons appointed under—

 

(i)    

section 36(1) of the Terrorism Act 2006,

 

(ii)    

section 31(1) of the Terrorist Asset-Freezing &c. Act 2010, and

 

(iii)    

section 20(1) of the Terrorism Prevention and Investigation

 

Measures Act 2011,

 

    

in the discharge of their statutory functions;

 

(b)    

review the operation, effectiveness and implications of the Anti-

 

Terrorism Crime and Security Act 2001, the CounterTerrorism Act

 

2008, this Act, and any other law or prerogative power to the extent that

 

it relates to counter-terrorism;

 

(c)    

consider whether such legislation contains appropriate safeguards, is

 

proportionate and remains necessary;

 

(d)    

review intelligence-sharing guidance and practice to the extent that it

 

relates to counter-terrorism and the functions of the Board;

 

(e)    

make recommendations to any public authority about the exercise of its

 

statutory functions relating to the prevention of terrorism;

 

(f)    

undertake inquiries relating to counter-terrorism when invited to do so by

 

the Home Secretary, the Treasury or the Secretary of State for Northern

 

Ireland, or on the initiative of the Board;

 

(g)    

encourage good practice in the prevention, investigation, detection and

 

prosecution of terrorism.

 

(h)    

provide advice and assistance to Government on the development and

 

implementation of policy relating to the prevention of terrorism.”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This expands the remit of the body to match that which is described in the Government‘s Terms of

 

Reference for this body.


 
 

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, continued

 
 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Not called  23

 

Clause  36,  page  22,  line  22,   leave out “Privacy and Civil Liberties Board” and

 

insert “Counter Terrorism Oversight Panel”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This would rename the body created by Clause 36.

 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Not called  25

 

Clause  36,  page  22,  line  25,   at end insert “in accordance with the Code of Public

 

Appointments”

 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Not called  26

 

Clause  36,  page  22,  line  32,  at end insert—

 

“(i)    

the information-gathering powers of the board;

 

(j)    

reporting requirements, and the formulation of and consultation on an

 

annual work plan;

 

(k)    

the access to such relevant classified material as may be required in order

 

for the board to undertake its functions under subsection (1);”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This increases the points that have to be included in regulation brought forward by the Secretary

 

of State to include information gathering powers, formulation of an annual work plan and relevant

 

to classified material.

 

John McDonnell

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

Caroline Lucas

 

Mark Durkan

 

Not called  8

 

Clause  36,  page  22,  line  32,  at end insert—

 

“(3A)    

Regulations under section (3) shall include provision requiring the board to

 

undertake an inquiry into the retention of and access to data relating to

 

professions that operate under a duty of confidentiality.”

 

John McDonnell

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

Caroline Lucas

 

Mark Durkan

 

Not called  9

 

Clause  36,  page  22,  line  34,  at end insert—

 

“(4A)    

Regulations under section (3) shall provide for the membership of the board to

 

include representatives of professions who operate under a duty of

 

confidentiality.”


 
 

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, continued

 
 

John McDonnell

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

Caroline Lucas

 

Mark Durkan

 

Not called  10

 

Clause  36,  page  23,  line  9,  at end insert—

 

““professions who operate under a duty of confidentiality” shall include, but

 

not be limited to, journalists, legal representatives, medical professionals

 

and Members of Parliament.”

 

Clauses 36 and 37 Agreed to.

 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Not called  18

 

Clause  38,  page  23,  line  31,  at end insert—

 

“(4A)    

The Secretary of State must consult with Welsh Ministers before making

 

provisions under subsection (1) so far as relating to any Measure or Act of the

 

National Assembly of Wales.

 

(4B)    

The Secretary of State must consult with Scottish Ministers before making

 

provisions under subsection (1) so far as relating to any Act or instrument of the

 

Scottish Parliament.

 

(4C)    

The Secretary of State must consult with the Northern Ireland Executive before

 

making provisions under subsection (1) so far as relating to any Act or instrument

 

of the Northern Ireland Assembly.”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This would ensure that the Secretary of State could not amend legislation from the Scottish

 

Parliament or Welsh Assembly or Northern Ireland Assembly without first consulting with the

 

Scottish or Welsh Governments or the Northern Ireland Executive.

 

Clauses 38 to 41 Agreed to.

 

Secretary Theresa May

 

Agreed to  12

 

Clause  42,  page  25,  line  3,  at end insert—

 

“( )    

section 18(10);”

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

The effect of this amendment would be that the repeal of section 124 of the Nationality,

 

Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 would come into force on whatever day Secretary of State

 

appoints by regulations (rather than automatically on the day on which the Bill receives Royal

 

Assent).


 
 

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, continued

 
 

John McDonnell

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

Caroline Lucas

 

Mark Durkan

 

Not called  11

 

Clause  42,  page  25,  line  5,  at end insert—

 

“(3A)    

The Secretary of State shall not make regulations under subsection (3)(a) until a

 

report by the Interception of Communications Commissioner on the use of

 

powers under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 to access the

 

records of journalists has been laid before both Houses of Parliament.”

 

Clause, as amended, and Clause 43, agreed to.

 

Mr David Davis

 

Mr Dominic Raab

 

Mr Peter Bone

 

Mr Philip Hollobone

 

Steve Baker

 

Not called  NC3

 

To move the following Clause

 

         

“Intercept Evidence — use in legal proceedings

 

(1)    

Section 18 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (c.23) is amended

 

as follows.

 

(2)    

After paragraph 1(f) insert—

 

“(g)    

any proceedings relating to an offence which, if committed in

 

England and Wales at the time of the conviction, would have

 

constituted an offence triable only on indictment (“an indictable-

 

only offence”) under section 51 of the Crime and Disorder Act

 

1998.””

 

Member’s explanatory statement

 

This new Clause removes the exclusion of intercept evidence from legal proceedings in criminal

 

prosecutions.

 


 

Diana Johnson

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Phil Wilson

 

Not called  NC7

 

To move the following Clause

 

         

“Review of Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament resources and

 

powers

 

The Secretary must, within a reasonable time period, consult the Intelligence and

 

Security Committee of Parliament and lay a report before Parliament within six

 

months of the commencement of this Act, on the resources and powers of the

 

Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament.”


 
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