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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 11th January 2000

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1 Ceredigion Writ,—Ordered, That the Speaker do issue her Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown to make out a New Writ for the electing of a Member to serve in this present Parliament for the County Constituency of Ceredigion in the room of Cynog Glyndwr Dafis Esquire, who since his election for the said County Constituency has accepted the Office of Steward or Bailiff of Her Majesty's Manor of Northstead in the County of York.—(Mr Elfyn Llwyd.)

2 City of London (Ward Elections) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for consideration of the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, as amended by the Chairman of Ways and Means;

    Ordered, That the Bill be considered on Tuesday 18th January.

3 Community Finance Tax Credit,—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to introduce a tax credit to encourage investment in community finance institutions to enable development of social enterprise in areas of deprivation: And that Mr Tony Colman, Mr Peter Bottomley, Mr Gareth R. Thomas (Harrow West) and Mr Tom Brake do prepare and bring it in.

4 Community Finance Tax Credit Bill,—Mr Tony Colman accordingly presented a Bill to introduce a tax credit to encourage investment in community finance institutions to enable development of social enterprise in areas of deprivation: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 3rd March and to be printed [Bill 44].

5 Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill;

    And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word 'That' to the end of the Question and add the words 'this House notes that the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill will make the social security system yet more complicated; regrets that the child support formula will reduce the entitlement to child maintenance of many parents with care; believes that the transitional period risks causing further resentment amongst people caught between two child support regimes; deplores the complexity of the Government's proposals for the state second pension; believes that the lower earnings threshold will act as a barrier to people moving into private provision; regrets that important features of the state second pension are being left for later regulation; and accordingly declines to give the Bill a Second Reading because it represents a missed opportunity on the part of the Government to reform social security', instead thereof.—(Mr David Willetts.)

    And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 180.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 340.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading);

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 338.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Phil Willis: 43.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.

6 Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill [Money],—Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill [Money];

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill, it is expedient to authorise—

    (1) the payment out of money provided by Parliament of—

    (a) any expenditure incurred by the Secretary of State for or in connection with the carrying out of his functions under the Act; and

    (b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums which are payable out of money so provided under any other Act; and

    (2) the payment of sums into the Consolidated Fund.—(Mr Graham Allen):—It was agreed to.

7 Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Graham Allen.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till two minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.58 p.m.

Betty Boothroyd
Speaker

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.

APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1 Local Government,—Draft Local Government Best Value (Exemption) (England) Order 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

2 Children and Young Persons,—Children (Performances) Amendment Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 10), dated 10th January 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

3 Harbours, Docks, Piers and Ferries,—Harbour Works (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 3445), dated 21st December 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

4 Housing,—Rent Officers (Housing Benefit Functions) (Amendment) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 1), dated 6th January 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

5 Social Services,—Community Care (Direct Payments) Amendment Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 11), dated 10th January 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

Other Papers:

6 Defence,—Ministry of Defence Minute, dated 11th January 2000, concerning the proposed gifting of surplus military vehicles to the HALO Trust and the Mines Advisory Group [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon].

7 Local Government Finance,—Accounts of the Scottish Office Development Department Non-Domestic Rating for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 150] [Clerk of the House].

8 Trade Union and Labour Relations,—Account of the Commissioner for Protection Against Unlawful Industrial Action for 1st April to 24th December 1999, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 151] [Clerk of the House].

9 Training and Enterprise Councils,—Accounts of the Training and Enterprise Councils in Wales for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 145] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

Draft Local Government Best Value (Exemption) (England) Order 2000,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Robert Ainsworth, Ms Hazel Blears, Paul Flynn, Mr Bernie Grant, Mr Mike Hancock, Ms Harriet Harman, Ms Beverley Hughes, Ms Fiona Jones, Ms Sally Keeble, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr Patrick Nicholls, Mr Michael Portillo, Joan Ruddock, Mr Adrian Sanders, Mr Nigel Waterson and Mrs Betty Williams from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order).

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1 Agriculture,—(1) First Special Report from the Agriculture Committee [Government Response to the Ninth Report from the Committee, Session 1998-99, on MAFF/Intervention Board Departmental Report 1999], together with an Appendix; to be printed [No. 148];

    (2) Second Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the First Report from the Committee, on The Current Crisis in the Livestock Industry], together with an Appendix; to be printed [No. 149]; and

    (3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Environmental Regulation and Farming: Implications for UK Agriculture and EU Agricultural Policy of Trade Liberalisation and the WTO Round; Marketing of Milk; Rural Development Regulation; Segregation of GM Foods; UK Beef Exports]

[Mr Peter Luff].

2 Home Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee [Controls over Firearms]; to be printed [No. 95-iii] [Mr Robin Corbett].

3 Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Innovations in Citizen Participation in Government]; to be printed [Nos. 79-iv and -v] [Dr Tony Wright].

4 Statutory Instruments,—Fifth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 47-v] [Mr David Tredinnick].

5 Trade and Industry,—Third Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [The Future of the Export Credits Guarantee Department], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 52] [Mr Martin O'Neill].

6 Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [Private Finance Initiative]; to be printed [No. 147-i] [Mr Giles Radice].

Supplement to the Votes and Proceedings Tuesday 11th January 2000 Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 24th May 1999]

The Sitting commenced at Ten o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1	Adjournment,—Resolved,That the Sitting be now adjourned—(Mr Jim Dowd.);
	And accordingly the Sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 12.54 p.m.
*Sir Alan Haselhurst* *Deputy Speaker*

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1	Ceredigion Writ,—Ordered, That the Speaker do issue her Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown to make out a New Writ for the electing of a Member to serve in this present Parliament for the County Constituency of Ceredigion in the room of Cynog Glyndwr Dafis Esquire, who since his election for the said County Constituency has accepted the Office of Steward or Bailiff of Her Majesty's Manor of Northstead in the County of York.—(Mr Elfyn Llwyd.)
2	City of London (Ward Elections) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for consideration of the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, as amended by the Chairman of Ways and Means;
	Ordered, That the Bill be considered on Tuesday 18th January.
3	Community Finance Tax Credit,—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to introduce a tax credit to encourage investment in community finance institutions to enable development of social enterprise in areas of deprivation: And that Mr Tony Colman, Mr Peter Bottomley, Mr Gareth R. Thomas (Harrow West) and Mr Tom Brake do prepare and bring it in.
4	Community Finance Tax Credit Bill,—Mr Tony Colman accordingly presented a Bill to introduce a tax credit to encourage investment in community finance institutions to enable development of social enterprise in areas of deprivation: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 3rd March and to be printed [Bill 44].
5	Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill;
	And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;
	An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word 'That' to the end of the Question and add the words 'this House notes that the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill will make the social security system yet more complicated; regrets that the child support formula will reduce the entitlement to child maintenance of many parents with care; believes that the transitional period risks causing further resentment amongst people caught between two child support regimes; deplores the complexity of the Government's proposals for the state second pension; believes that the lower earnings threshold will act as a barrier to people moving into private provision; regrets that important features of the state second pension are being left for later regulation; and accordingly declines to give the Bill a Second Reading because it represents a missed opportunity on the part of the Government to reform social security', instead thereof.—(Mr David Willetts.)
	And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 180.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 340.
	So the Question was negatived.
	And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading);
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 338.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Phil Willis: 43.
	So the Question was agreed to.
	The Bill was accordingly read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.
6	Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill [Money],—Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill [Money];
	A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill, it is expedient to authorise—
	(1) the payment out of money provided by Parliament of—
	(a) any expenditure incurred by the Secretary of State for or in connection with the carrying out of his functions under the Act; and
	(b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums which are payable out of money so provided under any other Act; and
	(2) the payment of sums into the Consolidated Fund.—(Mr Graham Allen):—It was agreed to.
7	Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Graham Allen.)
	And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till two minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.58 p.m.
*Betty Boothroyd* *Speaker*
Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
1	Local Government,—Draft Local Government Best Value (Exemption) (England) Order 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
2	Children and Young Persons,—Children (Performances) Amendment Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 10), dated 10th January 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
3	Harbours, Docks, Piers and Ferries,—Harbour Works (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 3445), dated 21st December 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
4	Housing,—Rent Officers (Housing Benefit Functions) (Amendment) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 1), dated 6th January 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
5	Social Services,—Community Care (Direct Payments) Amendment Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 11), dated 10th January 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
Other Papers:
6	Defence,—Ministry of Defence Minute, dated 11th January 2000, concerning the proposed gifting of surplus military vehicles to the HALO Trust and the Mines Advisory Group [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
7	Local Government Finance,—Accounts of the Scottish Office Development Department Non-Domestic Rating for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 150] [Clerk of the House].
8	Trade Union and Labour Relations,—Account of the Commissioner for Protection Against Unlawful Industrial Action for 1st April to 24th December 1999, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 151] [Clerk of the House].
9	Training and Enterprise Councils,—Accounts of the Training and Enterprise Councils in Wales for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 145] [Mr Secretary Murphy].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
	Draft Local Government Best Value (Exemption) (England) Order 2000,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Robert Ainsworth, Ms Hazel Blears, Paul Flynn, Mr Bernie Grant, Mr Mike Hancock, Ms Harriet Harman, Ms Beverley Hughes, Ms Fiona Jones, Ms Sally Keeble, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr Patrick Nicholls, Mr Michael Portillo, Joan Ruddock, Mr Adrian Sanders, Mr Nigel Waterson and Mrs Betty Williams from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order).
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1	Agriculture,—(1) First Special Report from the Agriculture Committee [Government Response to the Ninth Report from the Committee, Session 1998-99, on MAFF/Intervention Board Departmental Report 1999], together with an Appendix; to be printed [No. 148];
	(2) Second Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the First Report from the Committee, on The Current Crisis in the Livestock Industry], together with an Appendix; to be printed [No. 149]; and
	(3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Environmental Regulation and Farming: Implications for UK Agriculture and EU Agricultural Policy of Trade Liberalisation and the WTO Round; Marketing of Milk; Rural Development Regulation; Segregation of GM Foods; UK Beef Exports]
	[Mr Peter Luff].
2	Home Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee [Controls over Firearms]; to be printed [No. 95-iii] [Mr Robin Corbett].
3	Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Innovations in Citizen Participation in Government]; to be printed [Nos. 79-iv and -v] [Dr Tony Wright].
4	Statutory Instruments,—Fifth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 47-v] [Mr David Tredinnick].
5	Trade and Industry,—Third Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [The Future of the Export Credits Guarantee Department], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 52] [Mr Martin O'Neill].
6	Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [Private Finance Initiative]; to be printed [No. 147-i] [Mr Giles Radice].



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