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The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1 City of Newcastle upon Tyne Bill [Lords],-The Order of the day being read, for the Third Reading of the City of Newcastle upon Tyne Bill [Lords];
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Tuesday 21st November.
2 Alliance & Leicester Group Treasury plc (Transfer) Bill [Lords],-The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Alliance & Leicester Group Treasury plc (Transfer) Bill [Lords];
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Tuesday 21st November.
3 Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:
The Lords have agreed to the Licensing (Young Persons) Bill without Amendment.
4 Parliamentary Oath (Amendment),-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend the parliamentary oath; and for connected purposes-(Mr Kevin McNamara);
And the Motion being opposed, after a brief explanatory statement from the Member who made the Motion and from a Member who opposed it, the Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 23 (Motions for leave to bring in bills and nomination of select committees at commencement of public business).
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John McDonnell, Mr Paul Flynn: 129.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Eric Forth, Mr Gerald Howarth: 148.
So the Question was negatived.
5 Criminal Justice and Court Services Bill,-The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Criminal Justice and Court Services Bill.
Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 13 were agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 14 and 15 were disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 16 to 24 were agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said Amendment-(Mr Secretary Straw);
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr Graham Allen: 345.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr James Gray, Mr John Randall: 166.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 26 to 38 were agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said Amendment-(Mr Secretary Straw);
Tellers for the Ayes, Jim Dowd, Mr Greg Pope: 324.
Tellers for the Noes, Sir Robert Smith, Bob Russell: 142.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 40 was agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 41 to 43 were disagreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 44 was disagreed to.
Amendments ((a) and (b)) were made to the words so restored to the Bill.
Lords Amendments Nos. 45 and 46 were disagreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 47 was agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 48 and 49 were disagreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 50 was disagreed to.
Amendments ((a) to (f)) were made to the words so restored to the Bill.
Lords Amendments Nos. 51 to 75 were agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 76 was disagreed to.
Amendments ((a) to (c)) were made to the Bill, in lieu of the Lords Amendment disagreed to.
Amendments ((d) and (e)) were made to the words so restored to the Bill.
Lords Amendments Nos. 77 and 78 were agreed to.
Amendments ((a) and (b)) , consequential to Lords Amendment No. 78, were made to the Bill.
Lords Amendment No. 79 was disagreed to.
Amendments ((a) and (b)) were made to the words so restored to the Bill.
Lords Amendment No. 80 was disagreed to.
Amendments ((a) and (b)) were made to the Bill, in lieu of the Lords Amendment disagreed to.
Amendments ((c) and (d)) were made to the words so restored to the Bill.
Lords Amendments Nos. 81 to 99 agreed to.
An Amendment ((b)) was proposed to the Lords Amendment, in line 4, at the end, to insert the words-
'(db) the sentence is for any of the following offences-
(i) an offence under section 89 of the Police Act 1996 (assaulting, obstructing or resisting a constable);
(ii) an offence under section 38 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (assault with intent to resist arrest);
(iii) an offence under section 18, section 20, or section 47 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (wounding, causing grievous bodily harm and causing actual bodily harm) committed against a constable in the execution of his duty.'.-(Miss Ann Widdecombe.)
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made;
And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
6 Business of the House -A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business), That, at this day's sitting, the Criminal Justice and Court Services Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour-(Mr Mike Hall):-It was agreed to.
7 Criminal Justice and Court Services Bill,-The House again proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Criminal Justice and Court Services Bill.
The House resumed the adjourned Debate on the Question, That the Amendment be made.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Keith Simpson, Mr James Gray: 109.
Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 386.
The Lords Amendment was agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 101 to 105 were agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 106 was disagreed to.
Amendments ((a) to (c)) were made to the Bill, in lieu of the Lords Amendment disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 107 to 120 were agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 121 to 124 were disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 125 to 129 were agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 130 was disagreed to.
An Amendment ((a)) was made to the words so restored to the Bill.
Lords Amendments Nos. 131 to 134 were agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 135 was disagreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 136 was agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 137 and 138 were disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 139 to 244 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendment No. 180.
An Amendment ((a)) was made to the Lords Amendment.
Lords Amendment, as amended, agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 246 was disagreed to.
An Amendment ((a)) was made to the Lords Amendment.
Lords Amendment, as amended, agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 248 was disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 249 to 329 were agreed to.
Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their amendments nos. 14, 15, 25, 39, 41 to 43, 45, 46, 48, 49, 121 to 124, 135, 137, 138, 246 and 248;
That Mr Paul Boateng, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr Peter Luff and Angela Smith be members of the committee;
That Mr Paul Boateng be the Chairman of the Committee;
That three be the quorum of the Committee;
That the Committee do withdraw immediately.-(Mr Mike Hall.)
8 Social Security,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Jobseeker's Allowance (Joint Claims: Consequential Amendments) Regulations 2000, which were laid before this House on 28th July, be approved-(Mr Clive Betts):-It was agreed to.
9 Social Security,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Social Security (New Deal Pilot) Regulations 2000, which were laid before this House on 30th October, be approved-(Mr Clive Betts):-It was agreed to.
10 Criminal Justice and Court Services Bill,-Mr Paul Boateng reported from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their Amendments to the Criminal Justice and Court Services Bill, That it had drawn up the following Reasons, which it had directed him to report to the House:
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 14 for the following Reason:-
Because the Commons believe that it is necessary to make clear the circumstances in which accommodation may be provided in approved premises under the arrangements in question.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 15 for the following Reason:-
Because the Commons do not believe that it is appropriate to restrict in the manner proposed the category of person for whom the service in question may be provided under arrangements made by local probation boards.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 25 for the following Reason:-
Because the Commons believe that it is unnecessary to impose the proposed restriction on the power to give directions.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments Nos. 39, 45, 46, 48, 49 and 121 to 124 for the following Reason:-
Because the Commons believe that the changes proposed to be made in connection with a chief officer of a local probation board are not appropriate.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments No. 41 to 43 for the following Reason:-
Because the Commons believe that it is not appropriate for local probation boards to hold land.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments Nos. 135 and 138 for the following Reason:-
Because the Commons believe that it is not appropriate for local probation boards to hold land and it is not necessary to confer on them the proposed power to manage.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 137 for the following Reason:-
Because the Commons believe that it is not necessary to confer on local probation boards the proposed power to manage.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments Nos. 246 and 248 for the following Reason:-
Because the Amendments are not necessary in consequence of the Amendments made by this House to the words restored to the Bill by the disagreement of this House with Lords Amendments Nos. 79 and 80.
The Reasons were agreed to.
Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reasons with the Bill and Amendments.
11 Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Clive Betts.)
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till a quarter past Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 11.15 p.m.
Michael J. Martin
Speaker
Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1 Agriculture,-(1) Agricultural Processing and Marketing Grants Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3046), dated 9th November 2000,
(2) Energy Crops Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3042), dated 9th November 2000,
(3) England Rural Development Programme (Enforcement) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3044), dated 9th November 2000,
(4) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Stage I) Designation Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3049), dated 13th November 2000,
(5) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Stage II) Designation Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3050), dated 13th November 2000,
(6) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Stage III) Designation Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3051), dated 13th November 2000,
(7) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Stage IV) Designation Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3052), dated 13th November 2000,
(8) Rural Enterprise Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3043), dated 9th November 2000, and
(9) Vocational Training Grants (Agriculture and Forestry) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3045), dated 9th November 2000
[by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown].
2 Countryside,-Countryside Stewardship Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3048), dated 13th November 2000 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown].
3 Justices of the Peace,-Commission Areas (Avon and Somerset) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3054), dated 7th November 2000 [by Act] [Mr David Lock].
Other Papers:
4 Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Executive Agencies,-Report and Accounts of the Farming and Rural Conservation Agency for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 932] [Mr Nicholas Brown].
5 Air Force (Constitution),-Regulations of the Defence Council, dated 26th October 2000, amending Air Publication 3376, Trade Structure of the Royal Air Force [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
6 Broadcasting,-Account of the Radio Authority Additional Payments by Radio Programme Licensees for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 985] [Clerk of the House].
7 Natural Heritage (Scotland),-(1) Report and Summary Financial Statements of Scottish Natural Heritage for 1999-2000, and
(2) Scottish Natural Heritage Facts and Figures for 1999-2000
[by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].
8 Pensions,-Account of the Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 984] [Clerk of the House].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1 Draft Broadcasting (Limit on the Holding of Licences to Provide Television Multiplex Services) Order 2000,- The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Terry Davis from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Order); and nominated in substitution Ms Hazel Blears.
2 Draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Video Recording of Interviews) Order 2000,- The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Geraint Davies, Jim Dowd and Dr Gavin Strang from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Order); and nominated in substitution Mr David Clelland, Mr Doug Henderson and Ms Tess Kingham.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1 Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Delivering Sustainable Waste Management]; to be printed [No. 903-iv] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].
2 International Development,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Corruption]; to be printed [No. 950-ii] [Mr Bowen Wells].
3 Statutory Instruments,-Thirty-first Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 47-xxxi] [Mr David Tredinnick].
4 Trade and Industry,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [The Office of Telecommunications]; to be printed [No. 982-i] [Mr Martin O'Neill].
5 Treasury,-(1) Tenth Special Report from the Treasury Committee [Government Response to the Eighth Report from the Committee on Economic and Monetary Union]; to be Printed [No. 983];
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The London Stock Exchange]; to be printed [No. 508-ii]
6 Welsh Affairs,-Third Report from the Welsh Affairs Committee [Social Exclusion in Wales], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 365][Mr Martyn Jones].
Supplement to the Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 14th November 2000
Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 24th May 1999]
The sitting commenced at Ten o'clock.
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Adjournment,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned-(Mr Robert Ainsworth);
And it being One o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow..
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[Adjourned at 1 p.m.
Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker
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