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The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1 Falkirk West Writ,-Ordered, That the Speaker do issue his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown, to make out a new Writ for the electing of a Member to serve in this present Parliament for the County Constituency of Falkirk West, in the room of Dennis Andrew Canavan Esquire, who since his election for the said County Constituency has accepted the Office of Steward or Bailiff of Her Majesty's Manor of Northstead in the County of York.-(Mrs Ann Taylor.)
2 Northern Ireland Grand Committee,-Mr John McWilliam reported from the Northern Ireland Grand Committee the matter of the Review of the future of the juvenile justice centre estate, published by the Northern Ireland Office in March 2000, referred to it on 20th November 2000.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 324].
3 Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Roger Gale reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Social Security Amendment (Capital Limits and Earnings Disregards) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 2545).
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
4 Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Bill O'Brien reported from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Producer Responsibility Obligations (Packaging Waste) (Amendment) (England and Wales) Regulations 2000.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
5 Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:
The Lords do not insist on their Amendments to the Transport Bill to which the Commons have disagreed and agree to the Amendments made by the Commons in lieu thereof without Amendment.
The Lords have agreed to the Amendments made by this House to the Insolvency Bill [Lords], without Amendment.
6 European Standing Committee A,-Ordered, That the Minutes of Proceedings of European Standing Committee A be printed [No. 765].
7 European Standing Committee B,-Ordered, That the Minutes of Proceedings of European Standing Committee B be printed [No. 766].
8 European Standing Committee C,-Ordered, That the Minutes of Proceedings of European Standing Committee C be printed [No. 767].
9 Scottish Grand Committee,-Ordered, That the Minutes of Proceedings of the Scottish Grand Committee be printed [No. 764].
10 Rewarding Democracy Commission,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to establish a Commission, to be called the Rewarding Democracy Commission, to inquire into the reasons why those entitled to vote in elections either fail to register as an elector or decline to vote when registered and to produce recommendations for rewarding those who vote in parliamentary and other elections-(Mr Jimmy Hood);
And the Motion being opposed, after a brief explanatory statement from the Member who made the Motion and from a Member who opposed it, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 23 (Motions for leave to bring in bills and nomination of select committees at commencement of public business).
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Eric Clarke, Mr Bill Tynan: 79.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Simon Burns, Mr Stephen O'Brien: 143.
So the Question was negatived.
11 Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill and Disqualifications Bill (Allocation of Time),-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the following provisions shall apply to the remaining proceedings on the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill and the Disqualifications Bill:-
Lords Amendments
1.-(1) Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill shall be completed at today's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion at midnight.
(2) Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Disqualifications Bill shall be completed in one allotted day and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion three hours after their commencement.
2.-(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings on either Bill to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 1.
(2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided.
(3) If that Question is for the amendment of a Lords Amendment, the Speaker shall then put forthwith-
(a) a single Question on any further Amendments of the Lords Amendment moved by a Minister of the Crown, and
(b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended.
(4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith-
(a) a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to a Lords Amendment, and
(b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended.
(5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House disagrees with the Lords in a Lords Amendment.
(6) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question that this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Amendments.
(7) As soon as the House has-
(a) agreed or disagreed with the Lords in any of their Amendments, or
(b) disposed of an Amendment relevant to a Lords Amendment which has been disagreed to,
the Speaker shall put forthwith a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown relevant to the Lords Amendment.
Subsequent stages
3.-(1) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the consideration forthwith of any further Message from the Lords on either Bill.
(2) The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement.
4.-(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 3.
(2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided.
(3) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown which is related to the Question already proposed from the Chair.
(4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown on or relevant to any of the remaining items in the Lords Message.
(5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question that this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Proposals.
Reasons Committee
5.-(1) This paragraph applies to any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, in relation to either Bill, for the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons and the appointment of its Chairman.
(2) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on the Motion.
(3) The Committee shall report before the conclusion of the sitting at which it is appointed.
(4) Proceedings in the Committee shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion 30 minutes after their commencement.
(5) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with sub-paragraph (4), the Chairman shall-
(a) first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided, and
(b) then put forthwith successively Questions on Motions which may be made by a Minister of the Crown for assigning a Reason for disagreeing with the Lords in any of their Amendments.
(6) The proceedings of the Committee shall be reported without any further Question being put.
Miscellaneous
6.-(1) The following paragraphs apply to-
(a) proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill,
(b) proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Disqualifications Bill,
(c) proceedings on any further Message from the Lords on either Bill, and
(d) proceedings on the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons (and the appointment of its Chairman) and the Report of such a Committee.
7. Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to the proceedings.
8. The proceedings shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House.
9. No dilatory Motion with respect to, or in the course of, the proceedings shall be made except by a Minister of the Crown; and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith.
10.-(1) If on a day on which any of the proceedings take place a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) would stand over to Seven o'clock-
(a) that Motion stands over until the conclusion of any of the proceedings which are to be brought to a conclusion at or before that time, and
(b) the bringing to a conclusion of any of the proceedings which are to be brought to a conclusion after that time is postponed for a period of time equal to the duration of the proceedings on that Motion.
(2) If a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 stands over from an earlier day to such a day, the bringing to a conclusion of any of the proceedings on that day is postponed for a period of time equal to the duration of the proceedings on that Motion.
11. If the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the expiry of the period at the end of which any of the proceedings are to be brought to a conclusion under this Order, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order.
The allotted day
12. In this Order, "allotted day" means any day on which the Disqualifications Bill is put down on the main business as first Government Order of the Day.-(Mr Secretary Straw.)
And it being three hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 83 (Allocation of time to bills).
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Mike Hall: 358.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr James Gray: 177.
Ordered, That the following provisions shall apply to the remaining proceedings on the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill and the Disqualifications Bill:-
Lords Amendments
1.-(1) Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill shall be completed at today's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion at midnight.
(2) Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Disqualifications Bill shall be completed in one allotted day and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion three hours after their commencement.
2.-(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings on either Bill to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 1.
(2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided.
(3) If that Question is for the amendment of a Lords Amendment, the Speaker shall then put forthwith-
(a) a single Question on any further Amendments of the Lords Amendment moved by a Minister of the Crown, and
(b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended.
(4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith-
(a) a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to a Lords Amendment, and
(b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended.
(5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House disagrees with the Lords in a Lords Amendment.
(6) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question that this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Amendments.
(7) As soon as the House has-
(a) agreed or disagreed with the Lords in any of their Amendments, or
(b) disposed of an Amendment relevant to a Lords Amendment which has been disagreed to,
the Speaker shall put forthwith a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown relevant to the Lords Amendment.
Subsequent stages
3.-(1) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the consideration forthwith of any further Message from the Lords on either Bill.
(2) The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement.
4.-(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 3.
(2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided.
(3) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown which is related to the Question already proposed from the Chair.
(4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown on or relevant to any of the remaining items in the Lords Message.
(5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question that this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Proposals.
Reasons Committee
5.-(1) This paragraph applies to any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, in relation to either Bill, for the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons and the appointment of its Chairman.
(2) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on the Motion.
(3) The Committee shall report before the conclusion of the sitting at which it is appointed.
(4) Proceedings in the Committee shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion 30 minutes after their commencement.
(5) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with sub-paragraph (4), the Chairman shall-
(a) first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided, and
(b) then put forthwith successively Questions on Motions which may be made by a Minister of the Crown for assigning a Reason for disagreeing with the Lords in any of their Amendments.
(6) The proceedings of the Committee shall be reported without any further Question being put.
Miscellaneous
6.-(1) The following paragraphs apply to-
(a) proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill,
(b) proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Disqualifications Bill,
(c) proceedings on any further Message from the Lords on either Bill, and
(d) proceedings on the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons (and the appointment of its Chairman) and the Report of such a Committee.
7. Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to the proceedings.
8. The proceedings shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House.
9. No dilatory Motion with respect to, or in the course of, the proceedings shall be made except by a Minister of the Crown; and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith.
10.-(1) If on a day on which any of the proceedings take place a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) would stand over to Seven o'clock-
(a) that Motion stands over until the conclusion of any of the proceedings which are to be brought to a conclusion at or before that time, and
(b) the bringing to a conclusion of any of the proceedings which are to be brought to a conclusion after that time is postponed for a period of time equal to the duration of the proceedings on that Motion.
(2) If a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 stands over from an earlier day to such a day, the bringing to a conclusion of any of the proceedings on that day is postponed for a period of time equal to the duration of the proceedings on that Motion.
11. If the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the expiry of the period at the end of which any of the proceedings are to be brought to a conclusion under this Order, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order.
The allotted day
12. In this Order, "allotted day" means any day on which the Disqualifications Bill is put down on the main business as first Government Order of the Day.
12 Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill,-The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill.
Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 31 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendment No. 19.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Mr David Clelland);
Tellers for the Ayes, Jim Dowd, Mrs Anne McGuire: 380.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Peter Luff: 143.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 33 was agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Mr Paddy Tipping);
Thursday 30th November 2000
And it being midnight, the Deputy Speaker put the Question proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Order [yesterday].
The Lords Amendment was agreed to.
The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.
Question put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Mr Mike O'Brien);
Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Jim Dowd: 343.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 172.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
The Speaker then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Amendments.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Jim Dowd: 370.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Peter Luff: 141.
So the Question was agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 35 to 129 and 131 to 666 were accordingly agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 71, 359 to 361 and 637.
Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up a Reason to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendment No. 130.
That Mr Stephen Day, Mr Mike O'Brien, Mr Colin Pickthall, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe and Mr Robert Walter be Members of the Committee.
That Mr Mike O'Brien be the Chairman of the Committee.
That three be the Quorum of the Committee.
That the Committee do withdraw immediately.-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe.)
13 Local Government Finance,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 70) on Threshold Payments (House of Commons Paper No. 963), which was laid before this House on 20th November, be approved-(Mr Mike Hall):-It was agreed to.
14 Local Government Finance,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 71) on Leadership Group Payments (House of Commons Paper No. 964), which was laid before this House on 20th November, be approved-(Mr Mike Hall):-It was agreed to.
15 European Communities,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Agreement between the European Community and its Member States and the Swiss Confederation on the Free Movement of Persons) Order 2000, which was laid before this House on 20th November, be approved-(Mr Mike Hall):-It was agreed to.
16 Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill,-Mr Mike O'Brien reported from the Committee appointed to draw up a Reason to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to one of their Amendments to the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill, that it had drawn up the following Reason, which it had directed him to report to the House:
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 130 for the following Reason:-
Because it interferes with the public revenue, and the Commons do not offer any further Reason, trusting that this Reason may be deemed sufficient.
The Reason was agreed to.
Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reason, with the Bill.
17 Public Petitions,-Public Petitions from-
(1) residents of Essex and others for the continuation of breast screening services at the Lady McAdden Breast Screening Unit in Westcliff-on-Sea, and
(2) members of the West Midlands Federation of Townswomen's Guilds against mixed-sex wards in hospitals
were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
18 Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mrs Anne McGuire.)
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till one minute past One o'clock, adjourned till this day.
[Adjourned at 1.01 a.m.
Michael J. Martin
Speaker
Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1 Arms and Ammunition,-Firearms (Variation of Fees) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3148), dated 27th November 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].
2 Income Tax,-Controlled Foreign Companies (Designer Rate Tax Provisions) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3158), dated 29th November 2000 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].
Other Papers:
3 Education and Employment,-Department for Education and Employment Minute, dated 29th November 2000, concerning a contingent liability in respect of an indemnity issued to the administrator of the National Framework for Individual Learning Accounts [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
4 School Standards and Framework,-Account of the North Southwark Education Action Zone for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 763] [Clerk of the House].
Standing Committees
1 Social Security Amendment (Capital Limits and Earnings Disregards) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 2545),-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Peter Bradley from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Ms Karen Buck.
European Standing Committees
2 Unnumbered Explanatory Memorandum dated 28th November 2000 submitted by the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, relating to Fisheries: total allowable catches and quotas 2001, has been referred to European Standing Committee A.
3 European Union Document No. 5196/99 relating to the Control of Certain Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies, has been referred to European Standing Committee A.
4 Unnumbered Explanatory Memorandum dated 27th November 2000 submitted by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, relating to European Defence: Presidency Report to Nice, has been referred to European Standing Committee B.
5 Unnumbered Explanatory Memorandum dated 23rd November 2000 submitted by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, relating to the Declaration on Sport, has been referred to European Standing Committee C together with European Union Documents Nos. COM(99) 644, relating to The Helsinki Report on Sport, and COM(99) 643, relating to Doping in Sport, already referred to the Committee on 5th April 2000.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1 Agriculture,-Ninth Special Report from the Agriculture Committee [Government Response to the Tenth Report from the Committee, on Regional Service Centres]; to be printed [No. 802] [Mr David Curry].
2 Agriculture and Health,-Minutes of Evidence taken jointly before the Agriculture and Health Committees [The Phillips Report and the Food Standards Agency]; to be printed [No. 762] [Mr David Curry].
3 Defence,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence Committee [Armed Forces Personnel Issues]; to be printed [No. 69-vii] [Mr Bruce George].
4 Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Inland Waterways]; to be printed [No. 947-iii]; and
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [Rail Investment: Renewal, Maintenance and Development of the National Rail Network]; to be printed [No. 671-v]
5 European Scrutiny,-(1) Thirty-First Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 23-xxxi]; and
(2) First Special Report from the Committee [Government Observations on the Seventeenth Report from the Committee, Session 1999-2000, on the 2000 Inter-Governmental Conference]; to be printed [No. 803]
6 International Development,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Annual Meetings of the IMF and the World Bank]; to be printed [No. 966-ii]; and
(2) Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 7th and 29th November [Annual Meetings of the IMF and the World Bank]; to be printed [Nos. 966-iii and -iv]
7 Northern Ireland Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [The Parades Commission]; to be printed [No. 463-iii] [Mr Peter Brooke].
8 Social Security,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Social Security Committee [Integrated Child Credit]; to be printed [No. 951-iii] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].
Supplement to the Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 29th November 2000
Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 24th May 1999]
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
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Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mr Don Touhig.)
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
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[Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.
Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker
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