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The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1 Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill,-Ordered, That the proviso in paragraph (2)(ii) of Standing Order No. 86 (Nomination of standing committees) shall not apply to the Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill.-(Mr Secretary Murphy.)
2 Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill,-The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill;
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;
An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word 'That' to the end of the Question and add the words 'this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill because it fails to assert the importance of the family in protecting and nurturing children; it fails to give families confidence that the Children's Commissioner will protect the interests of their children whilst not impinging on the rights and responsibilities of parents in their relations with the public and other bodies within the scope of the Bill; because it will lead to duplication and confusion as to where responsibility for the welfare of children in schools lies; and fails to take account of the responsibility of UK public bodies and agencies which are not subject to oversight by the National Assembly for Wales', instead thereof.-(Mr Nigel Evans.)
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Keith Simpson, Mr James Gray: 139.
Tellers for the Noes, Jim Dowd, Mr Clive Betts: 339.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading):-It was agreed to.
The Bill was accordingly read a second time.
3 Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill (Programme),-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the following provisions shall apply to the Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill:-
Standing Committee
1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee.
2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Thursday 1st February.
3. The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it shall meet-(Mr David Hanson);
And it being three-quarters of an hour after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Order [7th November].
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Robert Ainsworth, Jim Dowd: 280.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr James Gray: 67.
So the Question was agreed to.
Ordered, That the following provisions shall apply to the Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill:-
Standing Committee
1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee.
2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Thursday 1st February.
3. The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it shall meet.
4 Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill [Money],-Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill [Money];
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Children's Commissioner for Wales Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of any increase attributable to the Act in the sums payable out of money so provided under any other Act-(Mr Don Touhig):-It was agreed to.
5 Education (S.I., 2000, No. 3106),-A Motion was made, That an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that the Education (School Teachers' Pay and Conditions) (No. 4) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 3106), dated 21st November 2000, a copy of which was laid before this House on 22nd November, in the last Session of Parliament, be annulled-(Mr Phil Willis);
And it being half-past Eleven o'clock, the Deputy Speaker, being of opinion that owing to the lateness of the hour at which consideration of the Motion was entered upon the time for Debate had not been adequate, interrupted the business, pursuant to Standing Order No. 17 (Delegated legislation (negative procedure)), and the Debate stood adjourned till to-morrow.
6 Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Code of Practice on Audio Recording of Interviews) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 18th December, be approved-(Mr Clive Betts):-It was agreed to.
7 Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Clive Betts.)
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till one minute to Twelve o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 11.59 p.m.
Michael J. Martin
Speaker
Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
1 Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism,-(1) Draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Code of Practice for Authorised Officers) Order 2001, and
(2) draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Code of Practice for Examining Officers) Order 2001
[by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].
2 Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism (Northern Ireland),-(1) Draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Code of Practice on the Exercise of Police Powers) (Northern Ireland) Order 2001, and
(2) draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Code of Practice on Video Recording of Interviews) (Northern Ireland) Order 2001
[by Act] [Mr Secretary Mandelson].
Other Papers:
3 International Monetary Fund,-Paper, entitled The UK and the IMF 1999-2000 [by Command] [Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer].
4 National Lottery,-Report and Summary Accounts of UK Sport Lottery Funding for 1999-2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].
5 Public Petitions,-Observations by the Secretary of State for Social Security on the Petition [20 June 2000] from members and supporters of Glossop, Hadfield and District Pensioners' Association for restoration of the link between earnings and the state pension [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].
6 Sport,-Report and Summary Accounts of UK Sport for 1999-2000 [by Command] [Mr Secretary Smith].
APPENDIX II
Reports from Select Committees
1 Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Cemeteries]; to be printed [No. 91-ii] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].
2 Home Affairs,-First Special Report from the Home Affairs Committee [Government Reply to the Fourth Report from the Committee, Session 1999-2000, on Blantyre House Prison]; to be printed [No. 139] [Mr Robin Corbett].
3 International Development,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Corruption]; to be printed [No. 39-iii] [Mr Bowen Wells].
4 Statutory Instruments,-Third Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 46-iii] [Mr David Tredinnick].
5 Trade and Industry,-(1) Second Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [The Department of Trade and Industry: Role, Objectives and Targets], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 140]; and
(2) First Special Report from the Committee [Observations from the Government, the Post Office and the Postal Services Commission on the Thirteenth Report from the Trade and Industry Committee, Session 1999-2000, on the Post Office and the Future of the Network]; to be printed [No. 141]
6 Treasury,-(1) Second Report from the Treasury Committee [National Statistics], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-Committee of the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 137];
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Banking]; to be printed [No. 138-i];
(3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [2000 Pre-Budget Report]; and
(4) Memoranda laid before the Sub-Committee of the Committee [National Statistics]
7 Welsh Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Wales in the World: the role of the UK Government in promoting Wales abroad]; to be printed [No. 38-ii] [Mr Martyn Jones].
[W.H., No. 8]
Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mr David Jamieson.)
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 2 p.m.
Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker
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