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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 12th December 2001

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Greenham and Crookham Commons Bill,-The House proceeded to consider the Greenham and Crookham Commons Bill, as amended in the Committee.

    Bill to be read the third time.

2    Food Poverty (Eradication),-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to require the Secretary of State to publish and implement a strategy for abolishing food poverty; to require the setting of targets for the implementation of that strategy; and for connected purposes: And that Mr Alan Simpson, Mr Don Foster, Mr David Amess, Alice Mahon, Mr David Drew, Tom Brake, Dr Howard Stoate, Peter Bottomley, Ms Diane Abbott, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr Tony Colman and Mr David Chaytor do prepare and bring it in.

3    Food Poverty (Eradication) Bill,-Mr Alan Simpson accordingly presented a Bill to require the Secretary of State to publish and implement a strategy for abolishing food poverty; to require the setting of targets for the implementation of that strategy; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 19th July and to be printed [Bill 69].

4    Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (Programme No. 3),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [28th June], That the following provisions shall apply to the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill for the purpose of supplementing the Order of 19th November:

Consideration of Lords Amendments

    1.-(1) Proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments shall be completed at today's sitting and shall be brought to a conclusion (so far as not previously concluded) at midnight.

    (2) Those proceedings shall be taken in the order shown in the following Table and shall be brought to a conclusion (so far as not previously concluded) at the time specified in the second column of the Table.

Lords Amendments Time for conclusion of proceedings
Amendments to Parts 3, 10, 11 and 13 8.15 p.m.
Amendments to Part 4 9.30 p.m.
Amendments to Part 5 10.45 p.m.
Amendments to Part 14 11.30 p.m.
Remaining Amendments midnight

Subsequent stages

    2.-(1) Any further Message from the Lords on the Bill shall be considered forthwith without any Question put.

    (2) The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords on the Bill shall be brought to a conclusion (so far as not previously concluded) one hour after their commencement-(Mr Nick Ainger);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ian Pearson, Mr Phil Woolas: 324.

      Tellers for the Noes, Tom Brake, Mr Peter Atkinson: 195.

    So the Question was agreed to.

5    Adjournment (International Terrorism),-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn-(Mr Nick Ainger);

    The Motion was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.

6    Deferred Divisions,-The Deputy Speaker announced the results of the Division which had been deferred to this day, pursuant to the Order of the House [28th June]:

    European Arrest Warrant and the Surrender Procedures between Member States,-That this House takes note of European Union Document No. 13425/01, Draft Council Framework Decision on the European Arrest Warrant and the Surrender Procedures between the Member States; and supports the Government's active participation in the debate on the draft Framework Decision and the Government's intention to ensure that extradition within the European Union takes place on the basis of the principles of mutual recognition.

      Ayes: 333.

      Noes: 146.

    So the Question was agreed to.

7    Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill,-The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill.

    Lords Amendment No. 5.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Mr Secretary Blunkett);

    And it being a quarter past Eight o'clock, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day], put the Question already proposed from the Chair:-It was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker then put the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.

    Lords Amendment No. 48.

    Amendments ((a) and (b)) were made to the Lords Amendment.

    The Lords Amendment, as amended, was agreed to.

    Lords Amendment No. 6.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Mr Secretary Blunkett);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Tony McNulty: 320.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Charles Hendry: 213.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.

    Lords Amendments Nos. 8, 38, 40 and 44 were disagreed to.

    Lords Amendments Nos. 7, 39, 41 to 43, 45 to 47 and 49 to 64 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendment No. 43.

    Lords Amendment No. 9.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Mr Secretary Blunkett);

    And it being half-past Nine o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair:-It was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker then put the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.

    Lords Amendments Nos. 10 to 22 were agreed to.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That Amendment ((a)) be made to the Bill instead of words left out of the Bill by Lords Amendments Nos. 21 and 22, and consequential Amendments ((b) to (f)) be made to the Bill-(Mr Secretary Blunkett);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Graham Stringer: 294.

      Tellers for the Noes, Tom Brake, Bob Russell: 85.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Lords Amendment No. 23.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Beverley Hughes);

    And it being a quarter to Eleven o'clock, the Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair.

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Graham Stringer: 307.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Wilshire, Tom Brake: 236.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.

    The Speaker then put the Question necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.

    An Amendment ((a)) was made to the words so restored to the Bill.

    Lords Amendment No. 65 was agreed to.

    Lords Amendment No. 66.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Mr Secretary Blunkett);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nick Ainger, Mr John Heppell: 322.

      Tellers for the Noes, Tom Brake, Mr Charles Hendry: 215.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.

    It being after half-past Eleven o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Question necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.

    An Amendment ((a)) was made to the Bill in lieu of Lords Amendment No. 66 disagreed to.

    Lords Amendment No. 1.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Mr Secretary Blunkett);

Thursday 13th December 2001

    And it being midnight, the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair:-It was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker then put the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.

    Lords Amendments Nos. 2 to 4, 24 to 37 and 67 to 70 were agreed to.

    Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 5, 6, 8, 38, 40 and 44;

    That Paul Goggins, Mr Dominic Grieve, Beverley Hughes, Simon Hughes and Mrs Anne McGuire be members of the Committee;

    That Beverley Hughes be the Chairman of the Committee;

    That three be the quorum of the Committee;

    That the Committee do withdraw immediately.-(Mrs Anne McGuire.)

8    Consolidated Fund Bill,-The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Consolidated Fund Bill;

    And a Motion being made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 56 (Consolidated Fund Bills), That the Bill be now read a second time:-It was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read a second time.

    And the Question being put forthwith, That the Bill be now read the third time:-It was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.

9    Consolidation, &c., Bills,-Ordered, That Mr Russell Brown, Mr John Burnett, David Cairns, Mr Martin Caton, Mr Colin Challen, Sir Patrick Cormack, Jim Dobbin, Paul Farrelly, Mr Barry Gardiner, Mr John MacDougall, Mr Nicholas Soames and Mr Anthony Steen be members of the Select Committee appointed to join with a Committee of the Lords as the Joint Committee on Consolidation, &c., Bills.-(Mr Graham Stringer.)

    Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.

10    Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill,-Beverley Hughes reported from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their Amendments to the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill, That it had drawn up the following Reasons, which it had directed her to report to the House:

    The Commons disagree to Amendments Nos. 5, 6, 8, 40 and 44 made by the Lords, for the following Reason:-

      Because it is not appropriate to limit the power conferred by this Clause in the manner proposed by the Amendment.

    The Commons disagree to Amendment No. 38 made by the Lords, for the following Reason:-

      Because it is not appropriate to limit the power conferred by this Part of the Bill in the manner proposed by the Amendment.

    The Reasons were agreed to.

    Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reasons with the Bill and Amendments.

11    Public Petitions,-Public Petitions from-

    (1) residents of Leominster for Herefordshire Council to relocate Travellers in Leominster to a dedicated site and increase police funding,

    (2) residents of the villages in the south sector of the borough of Rugby for an increase in the number of policemen on the beat in the southern sector of the borough of Rugby, and

    (3) Margaret Edgington of Colchester, schoolteachers, parents and others for measures to facilitate the Foundation Stage of the National Curriculum

    were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

12    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Ian Pearson.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-six minutes to One o'clock on Thursday morning, adjourned till this day.

[Adjourned at 12.34 a.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1    Education (Wales),-Special Educational Needs Tribunal (Time Limits) (Wales) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3982), dated 8th December 2001 [by Act] [Secretary Estelle Morris].

2    Environmental Protection,-Noise Emission in the Environment by Equipment for use Outdoors (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3958), dated 9th December 2001 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

3    Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance,-Legal Aid in Criminal Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment No. 2) Rules (Northern Ireland) 2001 (S.R. (N.I.), 2001, No. 426), dated 10th December 2001 [by Statutory Instrument] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

4    Libraries,-Public Lending Right Scheme 1982 (Commencement of Variations) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3984), dated 11th December 2001 [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

5    Public Health,-Private and Voluntary Health Care (England) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3968), dated 11th December 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

6    Social Care,-(1) Care Homes Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3965), and

    (2) National Care Standards Commission (Registration) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3969),

dated 11th December 2001; and

    (3) National Care Standards Commission (Fees and Frequency of Inspections) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3980), dated 12th December 2001

[by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

7    Social Welfare,-Children's Homes Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3967), dated 11th December 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

Other Papers:

8    Covent Garden Market,-Report and Accounts of the Covent Garden Market Authority for 2000-01 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

9    Inland Revenue,-Consolidated Resource Accounts of the Department of Inland Revenue for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 425] [Mr Paul Boateng].

10    Museums and Galleries,-Account of the Natural History Museum for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 451] [Clerk of the House].

11    National Lottery,-Accounts of the Film Council Lottery Distribution for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 455] [Clerk of the House].

12    Telecommunications,-Resource Accounts of the Office of Telecommunications for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 416] [Mr Paul Boateng].

13    United Nations,-(1) High Court of Judiciary (Proceedings in the Netherlands) (United Nations) (Variation) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3918), dated 11th December 2001 [by Act] [Mrs Secretary Liddell]; and

    (2) United Nations (International Tribunal) (Rwanda) (Amendment) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3920), dated 11th December 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Tax Credits Bill:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee A; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated eighteen Members to serve on the Committee: Vera Baird, Ms Karen Buck, Roger Casale, Mr James Clappison, Jon Cruddas, Mr Hilton Dawson, Mr Howard Flight, Mr Mark Hoban, Mrs Joan Humble, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Chris Pond, Dawn Primarolo, James Purnell, Helen Southworth, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Hugo Swire, Steve Webb and Richard Younger-Ross.

2    Copyright, etc. and Trade Marks (Offences and Enforcement) Bill:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nigel Beard, Mr Chris Bryant, Dr Vincent Cable, David Cairns, Mrs Anne Campbell, Brian Cotter, Ross Cranston, Michael Fabricant, Miss Melanie Johnson, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Andrew Miller, Mr Stephen Pound, Paddy Tipping, Mr Mark Todd, Mr Nigel Waterson and Mr Nicholas Winterton.

3    Education Bill,-The Speaker has appointed Mr Win Griffiths an additional Chairman of Standing Committee G in respect of the Bill.

4    Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 89) (House of Commons Paper No. 415) on Children's Services (Quality Protects) Special Grant for 2000-01 and 2001-02:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the Report to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and has appointed Mr Bill O'Brien Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Graham Allen, Sir Paul Beresford, Mrs Patsy Calton, Mr David Chaytor, Ross Cranston, Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas, Jeff Ennis, Jim Fitzpatrick, Paul Flynn, Miss Julie Kirkbride, Tim Loughton, Mr Andrew Love, Mr Gordon Prentice, Dr John Pugh, Jacqui Smith and Mr David Wilshire.

Grand Committees

5    Northern Ireland Grand Committee,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr James Cran, Mr Andrew Mackay and Mr John Taylor from the Northern Ireland Grand Committee and nominated in substitution Mr Crispin Blunt, Mr Quentin Davies and Mr John Hayes.

Standing Committee on Regional Affairs

6    The Speaker has appointed Mr Jimmy Hood Chairman of the Standing Committee on Regional Affairs in respect of its meeting on Tuesday 18th December.

European Standing Committees

7    Unnumbered Explanatory Memorandum dated 5th December 2001, submitted by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, relating to Fisheries: Total Allowable Catches and Quotas 2002, has been referred to European Standing Committee A.

8    The Speaker has appointed Miss Ann Widdecombe Chairman of European Standing Committee B in respect of European Union Documents Nos. 8261/01 and 9326/01 concerning Broad Economic Guidelines.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Defence,-(1) Second Report from the Defence Committee [The Threat from Terrorism], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 348]; and

    (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [The Threat from Terrorism]

    [Mr Bruce George].

    2    Education and Skills,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Department for Education and Skills: the next four years]; to be printed [No. 304-vi]; and

    (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Individual Learning Accounts]

    [Mr Barry Sheerman].

    3    European Scrutiny,-(1) Tenth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 152-x];

    (2) First Special Report from the Committee [Government Observations on the Fifth Report from the Committee, on the Convention to prepare for the 2004 Inter-Governmental Conference]; to be printed [No. 457]; and

    (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Democracy and Accountability in the EU and the Role of the National Parliaments]; to be printed [No. 347-ii]

    [Mr Jimmy Hood].

    4    Foreign Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [Zimbabwe]; to be printed [No. 456-i] [Donald Anderson].

    5    Northern Ireland Affairs,-Fourth Special Report from the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [Government Observations on the Third Report of the Committee, Session 2000-01, on Relocation following Paramilitary Intimidation]; to be printed [No. 461] [Mr Michael Mates].

    6    Public Accounts,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Managing the relationship to secure a successful partnership in PFI projects] [No. 460-i] [Mr Edward Leigh].

    7    Science and Technology,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [Cancer Research-A Follow-Up]; to be printed [No. 444-i] [Dr Ian Gibson].

    8    Scottish Affairs,-Second Report from the Scottish Affairs Committee [Job Creation Potential of the Modernised Forth, Clyde and Union Canal], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 424] [Mrs Irene Adams].

    9    Trade and Industry,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [The Reviews of the DTI structure and business support]; to be printed [No. 454-i] [Mr Martin O'Neill].

    10    Transport, Local Government and the Regions,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee [Empty Homes]; to be printed [No. 240-v] [Andrew Bennett]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [Departmental Estimates and Annual Report 2001 and Recent Policy Developments]; to be printed [No. 373-iii] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].

    11    Work and Pensions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee ['ONE' Pilots: Lessons for Jobcentre Plus]; to be printed [No. 426-ii] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].

THE SPEAKER'S CERTIFICATE

    The Speaker certified that the Consolidated Fund Bill is a Money Bill within the meaning of the Parliament Act 1911.

[W.H., No. 35]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

[pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]

The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

    Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mr Fraser Kemp.)

    And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst

Deputy Speaker



 
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