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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 24th June 2002

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Peter Atkinson reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Electoral Commission (Limit on Public Awareness Expenditure) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 505).

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

2    Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr John Cummings reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Social Security Amendment (Intercalating Students) Regulations 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Peter Pike reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Specialized Agencies of the United Nations (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order 2002 and the draft United Nations and International Court of Justice (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Alan Hurst reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Insider Dealing (Securities and Regulated Markets) (Amendment) Order 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

5    Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Sir Nicholas Winterton reported from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Offshore Installations (Emergency Pollution Control) Regulations 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

6    Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    The Lords communicate that they have given leave to the Alternate Representatives to the Convention on the future of Europe appointed by the Lords, and to other Lords, to participate in the Standing Committee on the Convention appointed by this House, as proposed in this House's Message of 13th June.

7    Export Control Bill (Programme No. 2),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [28th June 2001], That the following provisions shall apply to the Export Control Bill for the purpose of supplementing the Order of 9th July 2001:

    Consideration of Lords Amendments

    1. Proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments shall be completed at this day's sitting and shall be brought to a conclusion (so far as not previously concluded) three hours after their commencement.

    2. The Lords Amendments shall be considered in the following order, namely Nos. 1, 17, 10, 2 to 9, 11 to 16 and 18 to 30.

    Subsequent proceedings

    3. The proceedings on any further message from the Lords on the Bill shall be brought to a conclusion (so far as not previously concluded) one hour after their commencement-(Jim Fitzpatrick):-It was agreed to.

8    Export Control Bill,-The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Export Control Bill.

    Lords Amendment No. 1.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Nigel Griffiths);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ian Pearson, Joan Ryan: 282.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Bob Russell: 40.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.

    Lords Amendment No. 17.

    An Amendment ((a)) was made to the Lords Amendment, in line 12, by leaving out from the beginning to the end of line 18 and inserting the words 'The guidance required by subsection (3) must include guidance about the consideration (if any) to be given,'.

    The Lords Amendment, so amended, was agreed to.

    Lords Amendment No. 10.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Nigel Griffiths);

    And it being three hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Lords Amendments, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day], put the Question already proposed from the Chair.

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ian Pearson, Joan Ryan: 288.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Julian Brazier: 129.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker then put the Questions necessary to dispose of the remaining proceedings to be concluded at that hour.

    Lords Amendment No. 13.

    An Amendment ((a)) was made to the Lords Amendment.

    The Lords Amendment, so amended, was agreed to.

    Lords Amendments Nos. 3, 4 and 6 were disagreed to.

    Lords Amendments Nos. 2, 5, 7 to 9, 11, 12, 14 to 16 and 18 to 30 were agreed to.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [28th June 2001], That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 1, 3, 4, 6 and 10.

    That Dr Vincent Cable, Nigel Griffiths, Mr Robert Key, Mr Bob Laxton and Mr Ian Pearson be members of the Committee.

    That Nigel Griffiths be the Chairman of the Committee.

    That three be the quorum of the Committee.

    That the Committee do withdraw immediately-(Angela Smith):-It was agreed to.

9    Export Control Bill,-Nigel Griffiths reported from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their Amendments to the Export Control Bill, That it had drawn up the following Reasons, which it had directed him to report to the House:

    The Commons disagree to Amendments No. 1 made by the Lords, for the following Reason:

      Because it is inappropriate to make provision in Clause No. 1 about the contents of guidance under Clause No. 7, and Lords Amendment No. 17 (as amended by the Commons) makes more appropriate provision.

    The Commons disagree to Amendments Nos. 3, 6 and 10 made by the Lords, for the following Reason:

      Because Lords Amendment No. 16 makes more appropriate provision.

    The Commons disagree to Amendment No. 4 made by the Lords, for the following Reason:

      Because it is necessary to retain the power under Clause No. 2 to control the transfer of technology in the circumstances mentioned in subsection (2)(c) and (d).

    The Reasons were agreed to.

    Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reasons, with the Bill and Amendments.

10    Single European Sky,-Resolved, That this House takes note of European Union Documents No. 13735/99, Commission Communication on the creation of a Single European Sky, No. 12692/1/01, Commission Communication and draft Regulation laying down the framework for the creation of a Single European Sky, and No. 12693/1/01, draft Regulations on the provision of air navigation services, organisation and use of airspace and technical interoperability in the Single European Sky; considers that the establishment of a single air traffic management (ATM) framework in the Community can best be achieved by establishing and implementing common rules which are developed and monitored centrally; considers that military authorities should not be bound by these regulations; agrees that the operation of the single market would be improved by establishing a Community body responsible for the creation of a single Community airspace with common design, planning and management, for the authorisation of air navigation service providers and certification of air traffic controllers, for ensuring an equitable and transparent charging regime for air navigation services, and for the development of technical interoperability; supports the Government's position that the model mapped out in the proposals, but excluding its military part, could provide the building blocks to meet these objectives by improving the present European ATM system, reducing air transport delays and the financial and environmental cost associated with them, the key element being that the Single Sky regulator is endowed with sufficient powers and autonomy to make efficient and effective decisions; and supports the Government's intention to press for this approach in the European Union.-(Mr John Spellar.)

11    Authorisation of Human and Veterinary Medicines,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union document No. 13361/01, Commission Report on the experience gained as a result of the operation of the procedures for granting marketing authorisations for medicinal products, and No. 14591/01, draft Regulation laying down Community procedures for the authorisation and supervision of medicinal products for human and veterinary use and establishing a European Agency for the Evaluation of Medicinal Products, and draft Directives amending Directives 2001/83/EC and 2001/82/EC on the Community codes relating to medicinal products for human use and veterinary medicinal products; supports the Government's position of broad agreement to the proposed amendments, and the overall aims of the Review; supports the Government's ongoing work with Member States to build on the current system of medicines regulation to ensure it continues to contribute to the protection of human and animal health, also to promote the further development of a single market in pharmaceuticals, prepare the regulatory regime for enlargement, and provide a competitive environment for the pharmaceutical industry; notes European Union Document No. 6240/02, draft Directive amending Directive 2001/83/EC as regards traditional herbal medicinal products for human use; and supports the Government's position of broad agreement to the proposed amendments in order to achieve a regulatory regime for traditional herbal medicines which improves public health protection while maintaining consumer choice-(Mr John Heppell);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Angela Smith, Mr John Heppell: 283.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Julian Brazier: 111.

    So the Question was agreed to.

12    Extradition,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft European Union Extradition (Amendment) Regulations 2002, which were laid before this House on 9th May, be approved-(Joan Ryan):-It was agreed to.

13    Local Government Finance,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 100) (House of Commons Paper No. 869), on 2001/02 Special Grant for Rate Relief in Respect of Hardship Caused by Foot and Mouth Disease, which was laid before this House on 22nd May, be approved-(Joan Ryan):-It was agreed to.

14    International Immunities and Privileges,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft International Maritime Organisation (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 23rd May, be approved-(Joan Ryan):-It was agreed to.

15    Criminal Law,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Amendment) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 16th May, be approved-(Mr John Heppell);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Angela Smith, Mr John Heppell: 279.

      Tellers for the Noes, Bob Russell, Annette Brooke: 30.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Resolved, That the draft Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Amendment) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 16th May, be approved.

16    Betting, Gaming and Lotteries,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Betting, Gaming and Lotteries Act 1963 (Schedule 4) (Amendment) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 12th June, be approved-(Joan Ryan):-It was agreed to.

17    Defence,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline Acts (Continuation) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 1st May, be approved-(Joan Ryan):-It was agreed to.

18    Industrial Organisation and Development,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Horticultural Development Council (Amendment) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 10th May, be approved-(Joan Ryan):-It was agreed to.

19    Procedure,-Ordered, That Ian Lucas be discharged from the Procedure Committee and Huw Irranca-Davies be added.-(Joan Ryan.)

20    Public Accounts,-Ordered, That Mr Paul Boateng and David Davis be discharged from the Committee of Public Accounts and Ruth Kelly be added.-(Joan Ryan.)

21    Business of the House,-Ordered, That, notwithstanding the practice of the House as to the intervals between stages of Bills brought in upon Ways and Means Resolutions, more than one stage of the Finance Bill may be taken at any sitting of the House.-(Joan Ryan.)

22    Adjournment,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn-(Mr John Heppell);

    And it being Ten o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.

23    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Jim Murphy.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-six minutes past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.26 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1    Family Law,-(1) Draft Child Support Appeals (Jurisdiction of Courts) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Ms Rosie Winterton]; and

    (2) draft Child Support (Temporary Compensation Payment Scheme) (Modification and Amendment) Regulations 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Smith].

2    Freedom of Information,-Draft Freedom of Information (Designation of Persons as Public Authorities) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Yvette Cooper].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

3    Disabled Persons,-Rail Vehicle Accessibility (South Central Class 375/3 Vehicles) Exemption Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1617), dated 23rd June 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

4    Food,-Animal By-Products (Identification) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1619), dated 17th June 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

5    Road Traffic,-Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of North Yorkshire) (Borough of Harrogate) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1621), dated 24th June 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

Other Papers:

6    Health Service Commissioner,-Sixth Report of the Health Service Ombudsman, Session 2001-02: Investigations Completed-December 2001 to March 2002 [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 924-I and -II] [Clerk of the House].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Police Reform Bill [Lords] (Programming Sub-Committee),-The Speaker has appointed Mr John Heppell in place of Mrs Anne McGuire as a member of the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee A in respect of the Bill.

2    Electoral Commission (Limit on Public Awareness Expenditure) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 505),-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Adrian Bailey and Linda Perham from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Barbara Follett and Mr Mark Lazarowicz.

3    Draft Specialized Agencies of the United Nations (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order 2002 and the draft United Nations and International Court of Justice (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr David Borrow from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Orders); and nominated in substitution Joan Ruddock.

4    Draft Insider Dealing (Securities and Regulated Markets) (Amendment) Order 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mrs Betty Williams from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Colin Burgon.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Draft Communications Bill,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on the Draft Communications Bill; to be printed [No. 876-vii] [Nick Harvey].

    2    Education and Skills,-(1) Third Special Report from the Education and Skills Committee [Government's Response to the Third Report from the Committee, on Individual Learning Accounts]; to be printed [No. 987]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [General Teaching Council; Department for Education and Skills: the next four years]; to be printed [Nos. 998-i and 304-viii]

    [Mr Barry Sheerman].

    3    Public Accounts,-(1) Forty-first Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Ministry of Defence: Major Projects Report 2001]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 448];

    (2) Forty-second Report from the Committee [Managing the relationship to secure a successful partnership in PFI Projects]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 460]; and

    (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Collection of fines and other financial penalties in the criminal justice system] [No. 999-i]

    [Mr Edward Leigh].

    4    Science and Technology,-Fifth Special Report from the Science and Technology Committee [The Research Assessment Exercise: Government Response to the Committee's Second Report]; to be printed [No. 995] [Dr Ian Gibson].

CORRIGENDUM

In the Votes and Proceedings for Friday 21st June, in Appendix II, Item 2 should be replaced by the following:

    Draft Social Security (Electronic Communications) (Child Benefit) Order 2002,-The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (transferred from the Tenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation), and has appointed Mr Edward O'Hara Chairman.



 
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