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The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1 Selection,-The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed [16th October], That Mr John Hayes be discharged from the Committee of Selection and Mr Peter Luff be added to the Committee;
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
2 Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Roger Gale reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Maximum Number of Judges Order 2002.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
3 Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr George Stevenson reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Access to the Countryside (Provisional and Conclusive Maps) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1710).
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
4 Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Nigel Beard reported from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Suspension of Devolved Government) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2574) and the Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Modification) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2587).
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
5 Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:
The Lords have agreed to the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, without Amendment.
Private Bills (Suspension),-The Lords concur with the Commons in their Message [24th October] relating to the Mersey Tunnels Bill.
The Lords communicate that they have come to the following Resolutions in respect of the London Development Agency Bill, to which they desire the concurrence of this House:
That the promoters of the bill have leave to suspend any further proceedings thereon in order to proceed with it, if they think fit, in the next Session of Parliament, provided that notice of their intention to do so is lodged in the Office of the Clerk of the Parliaments not later than 12 noon on Wednesday 6th November and that all fees due on or before that day have been paid;
That if the bill is brought from the House of Commons in the next Session the agent for the bill deposit in the Private Bill Office a declaration signed by them stating that the bill is the same in every respect as the bill which was brought from the Commons in the present Session;
That the proceedings on the bill in the next Session of Parliament be pro forma in regard to every stage through which the bill has passed in the present Session, and that no new fees be charged to those stages; and
That the Private Business Standing Orders apply to the bill in the next Session only in regard to any stage through which the bill has not passed during the present Session.
6 Air Weapons,-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend the Firearms Act 1968 to restrict the acquisition and possession of air weapons; and for connected purposes: And that Jonathan Shaw, Mr Vernon Coaker, Mr Chris Mullin, Bridget Prentice, Julia Drown, John Austin, Paul Holmes, Jeff Ennis, Michael Fabricant, Mr Roger Gale, Derek Conway and Mr David Amess do prepare and bring it in.
7 Air Weapons Bill,-Jonathan Shaw accordingly presented a Bill to amend the Firearms Act 1968 to restrict the acquisition and possession of air weapons; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday 7th November and to be printed [Bill 198].
8 Business of the House,-Ordered, That, at this day's sitting, the Speaker shall put the Questions necessary to dispose of proceedings on any Motions in the name of Mr Robin Cook relating to Modernisation of the House of Commons, Parliamentary Questions, and Amendments to Standing Orders not later than Ten o'clock, and such Questions shall include the Questions on any Amendments selected by the Speaker which may then be moved; the Questions may be decided, though opposed, after the expiration of the time for opposed business and the Order of 28th June 2001 relating to deferred Divisions shall not apply to them.-(Jim Fitzpatrick.)
9 Modernisation of the House of Commons,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House approves the Second Report from the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons, and endorses its proposals, in particular for more effective law making by more routine publication of bills in draft for pre-legislative scrutiny, for consultation with Opposition parties on the broad shape of the legislative year and more flexibility in programming, for an annual House of Commons calendar which would allow honourable Members to plan work in their constituencies more effectively and provide sittings in September balanced by an earlier recess in July, for more effective use of the Chamber including more regular use of time limits on speeches, and a Parliament that is more accessible to the public that it serves-(Mr Robin Cook);
And it being Ten o'clock, the Speaker put the Questions which he was required to put at that hour, pursuant to Order [this day].
An Amendment ((e)) was proposed to the Question, in line 9, to leave out the words 'including more regular use of time limits on speeches'.-(Mr Eric Forth.)
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Joan Ryan: 150.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Nick Ainger: 394.
So the Question was negatived.
Another Amendment ((d)) was proposed to the Question, in line 10, at the end, to add the words 'but is of the opinion that the House should meet at half-past Two o'clock on Mondays, and half-past Nine o'clock on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, with a suspension of the sitting between 1.00 p.m. and 2.00 p.m. on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays and the moment of interruption of business falling at Seven o'clock on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and Six o'clock on Thursdays.'.-(Mr Greg Knight.)
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Joan Ryan: 94.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Nick Ainger: 441.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Main Question being put;
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Joan Ryan: 411.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Nick Ainger: 47.
So the Question was agreed to.
Resolved, That this House approves the Second Report from the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons, and endorses its proposals, in particular for more effective law making by more routine publication of bills in draft for pre-legislative scrutiny, for consultation with Opposition parties on the broad shape of the legislative year and more flexibility in programming, for an annual House of Commons calendar which would allow honourable Members to plan work in their constituencies more effectively and provide sittings in September balanced by an earlier recess in July, for more effective use of the Chamber including more regular use of time limits on speeches, and a Parliament that is more accessible to the public that it serves.
10 Parliamentary Questions,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That this House takes note of the Third Report from the Procedure Committee, Session 2001-02, on Parliamentary Questions, House of Commons Paper No. 622, and the Government Response thereto, Cm. 5628, and approves the proposals in both for a quota on named day questions, a reduction in the daily quota of questions per department, the introduction of electronic tabling subject to safeguards to ensure the authenticity of questions and the power of the Speaker to modify or halt the system if it appears it is being abused, and the timing and printing of answers to written questions and written ministerial statements-(Mr Phil Woolas);
An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Question, in line 8, to leave out the words 'and written ministerial statements'.-(Mr Greg Knight.)
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Joan Ryan: 144.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Nick Ainger: 386.
So the Question was negatived.
Another Amendment ((b)) was proposed to the Question, in line 8, at the end, to add the words '; and approves the proposals in the Procedure Committee's Report for the introduction of a 30-minute session of questions on a single topical subject on Tuesdays and Thursdays.'.-(Sir Nicholas Winterton.)
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Joan Ryan: 256.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Nick Ainger: 283.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Main Question being put;
Resolved, That this House takes note of the Third Report from the Procedure Committee, Session 2001-02, on Parliamentary Questions, House of Commons Paper No. 622, and the Government Response thereto, Cm. 5628, and approves the proposals in both for a quota on named day questions, a reduction in the daily quota of questions per department, the introduction of electronic tabling subject to safeguards to ensure the authenticity of questions and the power of the Speaker to modify or halt the system if it appears it is being abused, and the timing and printing of answers to written questions and written ministerial statements.
11 Questions (Amendments to Standing Orders),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That-
(1) the following Standing Order (Written statements by ministers) be made:
'A Minister of the Crown, being a Member of the House, may give notice of his intention to make a ministerial statement in written form on a specified day not later than five sitting days after the day on which notice was given: and such statements shall be printed in the Official Report.'
(2) with effect from 1st January 2003, the following amendments to Standing Orders be made:
(a) Standing Order No. 21 (Time for taking questions) be amended as follows:
Line 13, by leaving out the words 'on the order paper' and inserting the words 'in the Questions Book'.
(b) Standing Order No. 22 (Notices of questions, motions and amendments) be amended as follows:
Line 2, at end insert 'in a form determined by the Speaker'
Line 17, leave out from 'that' to end of line 34 and insert-
'(a)notice has appeared at latest on the notice paper circulated two days (excluding Saturday and Sunday) before that on which an answer is desired; and
(b)a Member may not table more than five such questions on any one day.
(5) Notice of a question for oral answer may be given only for answer on the next day on which the Member to whom it is addressed is due to give oral answers; and in respect of each such day the Speaker shall specify the latest date and time at which notice may be given and how many questions are to be printed for each Member answering; and only that number of notices of questions (selected at random from those received in a manner to be prescribed by the Speaker) shall be treated as valid notices received on the day concerned;
Provided that the latest date and time specified by the Speaker shall be such as to enable the notices selected to be printed and circulated-
(a)in the case of questions to the Secretaries of State for Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales at least four days (excluding Friday, Saturday and Sunday) before the question is to be answered or
(b)in the case of questions to other Ministers, at least two days (excluding Friday, Saturday and Sunday) before the question is to be answered'.
Line 38, leave out from 'paragraphs' to end of paragraph and add '(4) and (5) of this order and specifying the arrangements for tabling questions during the adjournment'-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.
12 New Provision for Earlier Sittings on Wednesdays, and for Thursdays and Fridays,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That, with effect from 1st January 2003 until the end of the Parliament, the Standing Orders and practice of the House shall have effect subject to the following modifications:
(1) Subject to paragraph (3) of this Order and to paragraph (14)(a) of Standing Order No. 1B (Election of Speaker by secret ballot), the House shall meet on Wednesdays at half-past Eleven o'clock and-
(a) the moment of interruption shall be at Seven o'clock;
(b) in their application to such sittings, reference to a specified time in the Standing Orders shall be interpreted as reference to a time three hours earlier, except that reference to Twelve o'clock in Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) shall be read as reference to half-past Ten o'clock, and that references to One o'clock, a quarter past One o'clock and half-past Three o'clock in Standing Order No. 88 (Meetings of standing committees) shall be read as references to twenty-five minutes past Eleven o'clock, twenty minutes to Twelve o'clock and Two o'clock respectively; and
(c) divisions deferred under the provisions of the Order (Deferred Divisions) shall be held at half-past Twelve o'clock.
(2) On Wednesdays the sitting in Westminster Hall shall begin at half-past Nine o'clock, shall be suspended from half-past Eleven o'clock until Two o'clock and may then continue for up to a further two and a half hours (and in calculating that period no account shall be taken of any period during which the sitting may be suspended owing to a division being called in the House or a Committee of the whole House).
(3) Paragraphs (1) and (2) of this Order shall not apply to a Wednesday sitting which immediately follows a periodic adjournment of more than two days or is the first day of a Session, and in the former case the sitting in Westminster Hall shall begin at half-past Nine o'clock and conclude at Two o'clock.
(4) On Thursdays the provisions of paragraph (1) of this Order shall apply (and the provisions of paragraphs (2) and (3) shall not apply), except that the moment of interruption shall be at Six o'clock and-
(a) opposed private business under Standing Order No. 20 (Time for taking private business), urgent debates set down for the same day by direction of the Speaker under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration), opposition half-day debates under paragraph (2)(c)(ii) of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business) and half-day Estimates debates under paragraph (3)(b) of Standing Order No. 54 (Consideration of estimates) shall begin at Three o'clock;
(b) opposition half-day debates under paragraph (2)(c)(i) of Standing Order No. 14 and half-day Estimates debates under paragraph (3)(a) of Standing Order No. 54 shall lapse, or be interrupted, as the case may be, at Four o'clock; and
(c) references to Eleven o'clock and half-past Eleven o'clock in Standing Orders No. 15 (Exempted business) and No. 17 (Delegated Legislation (negative procedure)) shall be read as references to Seven o'clock and half-past Seven o'clock respectively.
(5) Unless the House otherwise orders, the House shall not sit on any Friday other than those on which private Members' bills have precedence and-
(a) when the House is not sitting on a Friday it shall, at its rising on the previous Thursday, stand adjourned till the following Monday without any question being put, unless it shall have resolved otherwise; and
(b) paragraph (4) of Standing Order No. 12 (House not to sit on certain Fridays) shall apply to any Friday on which the House does not sit by virtue of this Order, with the addition of notices of motions relating to proceedings on bills committed to a standing committee to the notices which may be received by the Public Bill Office under subparagraph (b) of that paragraph-(Mr Phil Woolas);
An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Question, in line 5, to leave out paragraphs (1) to (3).-(Mr Chris Mullin.)
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
Tellers for the Ayes, Charlotte Atkins, Mr John Heppell: 265.
Tellers for the Noes, Dan Norris, Derek Twigg: 288.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Main Question being put;
Tellers for the Ayes, Charlotte Atkins, Mr John Heppell: 311.
Tellers for the Noes, Dan Norris, Derek Twigg: 234.
So the Question was agreed to.
13 New Provision for Earlier Sittings on Tuesdays,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That, with effect from 1st January 2003 until the end of the Parliament, the Standing Orders and practice of the House shall have effect subject to the following modifications:
(1) Subject to paragraph (3) of this Order and to paragraph (14)(a) of Standing Order No. 1B (Election of Speaker by secret ballot), the House shall meet on Tuesdays at half-past Eleven o'clock and-
(a) the moment of interruption shall be at Seven o'clock; and
(b) in their application to such sittings, reference to a specified time in the Standing Orders shall be interpreted as reference to a time three hours earlier, except that reference to Twelve o'clock in Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on a specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) shall be read as reference to half-past Ten o'clock, and that references to One o'clock, a quarter past One o'clock and half-past Three o'clock in Standing Order No. 88 (Meetings of standing committees)shall be read as references to twenty-five minutes past Eleven o'clock, twenty minutes to Twelve o'clock and Two o'clock respectively.
(2) On Tuesdays the sitting in Westminster Hall shall begin at half-past Nine o'clock, shall be suspended from half-past Eleven o'clock until Two o'clock and may then continue for up to a further two and a half hours (and in calculating that period no account shall be taken of any period during which the sitting may be suspended owing to a division being called in the House or a Committee of the whole House).
(3) Paragraphs (1) and (2) of this Order shall not apply to a Tuesday sitting which immediately follows a periodic adjournment of more than two days or is the first day of a Session, and in the former case the sitting in Westminster Hall shall begin at half-past Nine o'clock and conclude at Two o'clock-(Mr Phil Woolas);
Tellers for the Ayes, Charlotte Atkins, Mr John Heppell: 274.
Tellers for the Noes, Dan Norris, Derek Twigg: 267.
So the Question was agreed to.
14 Carry-over of Bills,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That in the current Parliament the following Order shall have effect:
(1) Subject to the following provisions of this order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice of a motion (a 'carry-over motion') that proceedings on a public bill not completed before the end of the Session shall be resumed in the next Session of Parliament; and the Speaker shall put any question necessary to dispose of proceedings on such a motion-
(a) forthwith if the motion is made on the day the bill is read a second time; or
(b) not more than one and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the motion if the motion is made at any other time.
(2) A carry-over motion may be proceeded with, though opposed, after the moment of interruption.
(3) A carry-over motion shall not be made in respect of more than one bill.
(4) A carry-over motion shall not be made in respect of a bill carried over from a previous Session of Parliament.
(5) Paragraphs (6) to (9) of this order shall apply to any bill ordered to be carried over to the next Session of Parliament in pursuance of a carry-over motion.
(6) If proceedings in Committee on the bill are begun but not completed before the end of the first Session, the Chairman shall report the bill to the House as so far amended and the bill shall be ordered to lie upon the Table.
(7) In any other case, proceedings on the bill shall be suspended at the conclusion of the Session in which the bill was first introduced.
(8) If a bill is presented in the next Session in the same terms as the bill reported to the House under paragraph (6) or as it stood when proceedings were suspended under paragraph (7), the bill shall be read the first and second time without question put, shall be ordered to be printed, and-
(a) in the case of a bill reported from a standing committee under paragraph (6), shall stand committed in respect of those clauses and schedules not ordered to stand part of the bill in the first Session, to a standing committee of the same Members as the Members of the standing committee on the bill in the first Session;
(b) in the case of a bill reported from a Committee of the whole House under paragraph (6), shall stand committed to a Committee of the whole House in respect of those clauses and schedules not ordered to stand part of the bill in the first Session;
(c) in the case of a bill committed to a Standing Committee but on which proceedings on the bill were not begun, shall again stand committed to a Standing Committee
(d) otherwise shall be set down as an order of the day for (as the case may be) committee, consideration, further consideration or third reading.
(9) Notices of amendments, new clauses and new schedules given in respect of parts of a bill not disposed of in the first Session shall be reprinted as notices in respect of the bill as presented and proceeded with under paragraph (8).
(10) Proceedings on a bill ordered to be carried over to the next Session of Parliament shall lapse on the expiry of the period of twelve months from the date of its first reading in this House and the bill shall be laid aside unless the House shall order, in pursuance of a motion under paragraph (11), that proceedings on the bill be extended for a specified period.
(11) A motion may be made by a Minister of the Crown to extend for a specified period proceedings on a bill which would otherwise lapse under paragraph (10), and any such motion
(a) may contain provisions amending or supplementing a programme order in respect of the bill;
(b) may be proceeded with, though opposed, after the moment of interruption;
and the Speaker shall put any question necessary to dispose of proceedings on any such motion not later than one and a half hours after the commencement of those proceedings-(Mr Phil Woolas);
Tellers for the Ayes, Charlotte Atkins, Mr John Heppell: 365.
Tellers for the Noes, Dan Norris, Derek Twigg: 147.
So the Question was agreed to.
15 Permanent Arrangements for Westminster Hall, Thursday Sittings and Standing Committees,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That, with effect from the beginning of the next Session of Parliament,-
(1) Standing Order No. 10 (Wednesday sittings) be repealed;
(2) the following Standing Order (Sittings in Westminster Hall) be made:
'(1) On days on which the House shall sit after an address has been agreed to in answer to Her Majesty's Speech there shall be a sitting in Westminster Hall-
(a)on Tuesdays and Wednesdays between half-past Nine o'clock and Two o'clock; and
(b)on Thursdays beginning at half-past Two o'clock and continuing for up to three hours (and in calculating that period no account shall be taken of any period during which the sitting may be suspended owing to a division being called in the House or a Committee of the whole House).
(2) Any Member of the House may take part in a sitting in Westminster Hall.
(3) Subject to paragraph (13) below, the business taken at any sitting in Westminster Hall shall be such as the Chairman of Ways and Means shall appoint and may include oral answers to questions under arrangements to be made by him.
(4) The Chairman of Ways and Means or a Deputy Chairman shall take the chair in Westminster Hall as Deputy Speaker; and the House may appoint not more than four other members of the Chairmen's Panel to sit in Westminster Hall as Deputy Speaker.
(5) Any member of the Chairmen's Panel may also take the chair at a sitting in Westminster Hall when so requested by the Chairman of Ways and Means, with the duties and powers conferred on additional Deputy Speakers; and Members so appointed shall be addressed by name.
(6) Any order made or resolution come to at a sitting in Westminster Hall (other than a resolution to adjourn) shall be reported to the House by the Deputy Speaker and shall be deemed to be an order or resolution of the House.
(7) If a motion be made by a Minister of the Crown that an order of the day be proceeded with at a sitting in Westminster Hall, the question thereon shall be put forthwith, but such motion may be made only with the leave of the House and may not be made on a Friday.
(8) The quorum at a sitting in Westminster Hall shall be three.
(9) If at a sitting in Westminster Hall the opinion of the Deputy Speaker as to the decision of a question (other than a question for adjournment) is challenged, that question shall not be decided, and the Deputy Speaker shall report to the House accordingly; and any such question shall be put forthwith upon a motion being made in the House.
(10) If any business other than a motion for adjournment is under consideration at a sitting in Westminster Hall, and not fewer than six Members rise in their places and signify their objection to further proceedings, that business shall not be further proceeded with in Westminster Hall, and the Deputy Speaker shall report to the House accordingly, and any order under paragraph (7) above relating thereto shall be discharged.
(11) At the end of each sitting in Westminster Hall, unless a question for adjournment has previously been agreed to, the Deputy Speaker shall adjourn the sitting without putting any question; and proceedings on any business which has been entered upon but not disposed of shall lapse.
(12) The provisions of Standing Orders No. 29 (Powers of chair to propose question), No. 36 (Closure of debate), No. 37 (Majority for closure or proposal of question), No. 38 (Procedure on divisions), No. 39 (Voting), No. 40 (Division unnecessarily claimed), No. 41 (Quorum), No. 43 (Disorderly conduct), No. 44 (Order in debate), No. 45 (Members suspended, &c., to withdraw from precincts), No. 45A (Suspension of salary of Members suspended) and No. 163 (Motions to sit in private) shall not apply to sittings in Westminster Hall.
(13) In each Session, the Speaker shall appoint not more than six Thursdays on which the business to be taken in Westminster Hall should be debates on select committee reports chosen by the Liaison Committee.'; and
(3) the following Amendments to Standing Orders be made:
Standing Order No. 1B (Election of Speaker by secret ballot)
Line 90, leave out '10 (Wednesday sittings)' and insert '9 (Sittings of the House)'
Standing Order No. 9 (Sittings of the House)
Line 2, leave out 'and Thursdays at half-past two' and insert 'and Wednesdays at half-past two o'clock and Thursdays at half-past eleven'
Line 6, after 'Tuesday' insert 'Wednesday'
Line 15, after 'Tuesdays' insert 'and'
Line 16, after 'and' insert 'at seven o'clock on'
Line 16, after 'Thursdays', insert '(the "moment of interruption")'
Line 43, leave out 'ten o'clock' and insert 'the moment of interruption'
Line 52, leave out 'ten o'clock in the evening' and insert 'the moment of interruption'
Standing Order No. 11 (Friday sittings)
leave out lines 9 to 11 and insert-
'(b) the insertion of references to half-past two o'clock as the moment of interruption; and'
Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of Public Business)
Lines 20 and 23, after 'o'clock' insert 'on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday or four o'clock on Thursday'
Line 29, after 'o'clock' insert 'or four o'clock'
Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business)
Lines 4, 42, 93 and 96, leave out 'ten o'clock' and insert 'the moment of interruption'
Line 24, after 'o'clock' insert 'on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday or eight o'clock on Thursday'
Standing Order No. 17 (Delegated legislation (negative procedure))
Lines 3 and 5, after 'o'clock' insert 'on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday or half-past eight o'clock on Thursday'
Line 18, after 'o'clock' insert 'on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday or eight o'clock on Thursday'
Standing Order No. 20 (Time for taking private business)
Line 3, leave out 'to three o'clock' and insert 'of an hour after the House sits'
Line 28, leave out 'Wednesday or Thursday' and insert 'or Wednesday or Four o'clock on any specified Thursday'
Line 38, after 'o'clock' insert 'or four o'clock'
Standing Order No. 21 (Time for taking questions)
Line 5, leave out 'after half-past three o'clock' and insert 'more than one hour after the House sits'
Standing Order No. 22 (Notices of questions, motions and amendments)
Line 6, leave out 'after half past ten o'clock in the evening' and insert 'later than half an hour after the moment of interruption'
Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration)
Line 24, at end insert 'if it is a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday or four o'clock if it is a Thursday'
Line 27, after 'o'clock' insert 'on a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday or half-past Ten o'clock on a Thursday'
Line 52, after 'o'clock' insert 'or four o'clock'
Line 59, leave out 'seven o'clock' and insert 'the time when they were postponed'
Standing Order No. 54 (Consideration of estimates)
Lines 11 and 40, leave out 'ten o'clock' and insert 'the moment of interruption'
Lines 18 and 22, after 'o'clock' insert 'on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday or four o'clock on Thursday'
Line 25, after 'o'clock' insert 'or four o'clock'
Standing Order No. 55 (Questions on voting of estimates, &c.)
Line 3, leave out 'ten o'clock' and insert 'the moment of interruption'
Standing Order No. 88 (Meetings of standing committees)
Line 8, leave out '(being days on which the House sits)' and insert 'and at such times'
Line 9, leave out from 'committee' to end of line 10
Line 11, after 'sit' insert 'at Westminster, on a day on which the House sits,'
Line 13, after 'afternoon' insert 'on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays or between the hours of twenty-five minutes past eleven o'clock in the morning and two o'clock in the afternoon on Thursdays'
Line 14, after 'committee' insert 'to which the proviso to paragraph (1) of this order applies'
Line 16, after 'o'clock' insert 'or twenty-five minutes past eleven o'clock as the case may be'
Line 25, leave out 'until a quarter past one o'clock' and insert 'for a quarter of an hour'
'(3) Any standing committee may sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House.'
Standing Order No. 99 (Scottish Grand Committee (substantive motions for the adjournment))
Line 34, leave out 'at or after half-past three o'clock' and insert 'five hours or more after the commencement of the sitting'
Standing Order No. 100 (Scottish Grand Committee (sittings))
Leave out line 9 and insert 'such hours as may be specified'
Line 45, after 'o'clock' insert 'on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays and at twenty-five minutes past eleven o'clock on Thursdays'
Standing Order No. 108 (Welsh Grand Committee (sittings))
Leave out lines 9 and 10 and insert 'such hours as may be specified'
Line 45, after 'o'clock' insert 'on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays and at twenty-five minutes past eleven o'clock on Thursdays'
Standing Order No. 116 (Northern Ireland Grand Committee (sittings))
Line 57, after 'o'clock' insert 'on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays and at twenty-five minutes past eleven o'clock on Thursdays'
Standing Order No. 117 (Standing Committee on Regional Affairs)
Line 37, leave out 'at ten o'clock'
Standing Order No. 145 (Liaison Committee)
Line 10, leave out "Wednesdays" and insert "days"
Line 11, leave out '(4) of Standing Order No. 10 (Wednesday sittings)' and insert '(13) of Standing Order (Sittings in Westminster Hall)'
Standing Order No. 154 (Time and manner of presenting petitions)
Line 22, leave out 'ten o'clock or at half-past two o'clock respectively' and insert 'the moment of interruption'
Standing Order No. 155 (Petition as to present personal grievance)
Line 7, leave out 'shall not be interrupted at ten o'clock and'-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.
16 Deferred Divisions,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day],That the Order relating to Deferred Divisions, made by the House on 28th June 2001, shall continue to have effect in the next Session of Parliament-(Mr Phil Woolas);
Wednesday 30th October 2002
Tellers for the Ayes, Dan Norris, Derek Twigg: 313.
Tellers for the Noes, Charlotte Atkins, Mr John Heppell: 153.
So the Question was agreed to.
Ordered, That the Order relating to Deferred Divisions, made by the House on 28th June 2001, shall continue to have effect in the next Session of Parliament.
17 Programming,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That Orders A to I relating to the Programming of Bills, made by the House on 28th June 2001, shall continue to have effect in the next Session of Parliament-(Mr Phil Woolas);
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Jim Murphy: 309.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nick Ainger, Jim Fitzpatrick: 153.
So the Question was agreed to.
Ordered, That Orders A to I relating to the Programming of Bills, made by the House on 28th June 2001, shall continue to have effect in the next Session of Parliament.
18 Leave of Absence for the Speaker,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day],That Standing Order No. 3 (Deputy Speaker) be amended as follows-
Line 7, after 'Speaker' insert 'or where paragraph (2A) of this order applies'
'(2A) For the purpose of paragraph (2) of this order, the Speaker shall have leave of absence, if he thinks fit, on any Friday on which the House sits.'-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.
19 Short Speeches,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That, with effect from the beginning of the next Session of Parliament, Standing Order No. 47 (Short speeches) be amended as follows:
Line 8, leave out 'may' and insert 'shall, subject to paragraph (2)'.
Leave out lines 14 and 15 and insert-
'(2) In relation to any speech, the Speaker shall add to any period specified in paragraph (1) of this order-
(a) one minute if one intervention is accepted, plus the time taken by that intervention;
(b) two minutes if two or more interventions are accepted, plus the time taken by the first two such interventions.'-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.
20 Sittings of the House,-Ordered, That-
(i) at the sittings on Wednesday 30th October, Thursday 31st October, Monday 4th November, Tuesday 5th November, Wednesday 6th November and Thursday 7th November, the Speaker shall not adjourn the House until any Messages from the Lords shall have been received;
(ii) at the sittings on Monday 4th November, Tuesday 5th November, Wednesday 6th November and Thursday 7th November, the Speaker shall not adjourn the House until any Committee to draw up Reasons which has been appointed at that sitting has reported; and
(iii) at the sitting on Thursday 7th November, the Speaker shall not adjourn the House until a Message is received from the Lords Commissioners.-(Mr Phil Woolas.)
21 Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Phil Woolas.)
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till thirteen minutes to One o'clock, adjourned till this day.
[Adjourned at 12.47 a.m.
Michael J. Martin
Speaker
Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
1 Customs and Excise,-Excise Duties (Personal Reliefs) (Revocation) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2691), dated 28th October 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Ruth Kelly].
2 Prisons,-Draft Release of Short-Term Prisoners on Licence (Amendment of Requisite Period) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
3 Channel Tunnel,-Channel Tunnel (Alcoholic Liquor and Tobacco Products) (Amendment) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2693), dated 28th October 2002 [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].
4 Customs and Excise,-Excise Goods, Beer and Tobacco Products (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2692), dated 28th October 2002 [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].
5 Financial Services and Markets,-(1) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Fourth Motor Insurance Directive) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2706), and
(2) Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Variation of Threshold Conditions) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2707),
dated 28th October 2002 [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].
6 Insolvency,-(1) Insolvency (Amendment) (No. 2) Rules 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2712),
(2) Insolvency Practitioners (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2710),
(3) Insolvency (Scotland) Amendment Rules 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2709), and
(4) Insolvent Partnerships (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2708),
dated 29th October 2002 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].
7 Race Relations,-Draft Code of Practice on the duty to promote race equality in Scotland [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
Other Papers:
8 Communications,-Government Response to the Report from the Joint Committee on the Draft Communications Bill [by Command] [Cm. 5646] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].
9 European Communities,-Report by the Department of Trade and Industry on the exercise of powers conferred by certain sections of the European Communities Act 1972 and of the Customs and Excise Duties (General Reliefs) Act 1979, for 2001-02 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1183] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
Draft Data Protection (Processing of Sensitive Personal Data) (Elected Representatives) Order 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr William Cash from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Nick Hawkins.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1 Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Reform of the Common Fisheries Policy Sub-Committee of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Reform of the Common Fisheries Policy]; to be printed [No. 1252-ii] [Mr Colin Breed]; and
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Mid-term Review of the CAP Sub-Committee of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Mid-term Review of the CAP]; to be printed [No. 1282-i] [Mr David Curry].
2 Home Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee [Draft Extradition Bill]; to be printed [No. 1268-i] [Mr Chris Mullin].
3 International Development,-(1) Third Special Report from the International Development Committee [Government Response to the Fifth Report from the Committee, on Financing for Development: Finding the Money to Eliminate World Poverty]; to be printed [No. 1269];
(2) Fourth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Third Report from the Committee, on Global Climate Change and Sustainable Development]; to be printed [No. 1270]; and
(3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Humanitarian Crisis in Southern Africa]; to be printed [No. 1271-i]
4 Northern Ireland Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [Control of Firearms in Northern Ireland and the Draft Firearms (Northern Ireland) Order 2002]; to be printed [No. 1119-ii] [Mr Michael Mates].
5 Regulatory Reform,-Third Special Report from the Regulatory Reform Committee [Handling of Regulatory Reform Orders (III)]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1272] [Mr Peter Pike].
6 Statutory Instruments,-Thirty-ninth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 135-xxxix] [Mr David Tredinnick].
7 Trade and Industry,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [The Company Law White Paper; Manufacturing Strategy]; to be printed [Nos. 1283-i and ii and 1284-i] [Mr Martin O'Neill].
8 Treasury,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [Split Capital Investment Trusts]; to be printed [No. 1089-iii] [Mr John McFall].
[W.H., No. 115]
Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Derek Twigg.)
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.
Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker
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