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The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1 European Standing Committee B,-Mr Roger Gale reported from European Standing Committee B the following Resolution:
That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 15185/03, draft Council Regulation amending the Staff Regulations of officials and the Conditions of Employment of other servants of the European Communities; supports the Government's view that this is a major step in the Commission's reform programme in establishing a modernised human resources policy for the European Union institutions; and welcomes the adoption of the new Staff Regulations in promoting merit, efficiency, staff development and providing for significant long-term savings in the European Union budget.
Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
2 Prevention of Homelessness Bill,-The Order for reading the Prevention of Homelessness Bill a second time on Friday 16th July was read and discharged.
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 15th October.
3 Food Justice Strategies Bill,-Alan Simpson, supported by Mr David Amess, Mr Don Foster, Mr Simon Thomas, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr David Drew and Dr Howard Stoate, presented a Bill to require the Secretary of State and the National Assembly for Wales to draw up and implement strategies to promote food justice and to eradicate food poverty; to specify certain matters that shall be considered in the strategies; and for related purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 15th October and to be printed [Bill 125].
4 Cinemas (Rural Areas),-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make provision about cinemas in rural areas: And that Mr David Rendel, Mr Don Foster, Sue Doughty, Andrew George, Sandra Gidley, Mr Phil Willis, Nick Harvey, John Mann, Jane Griffiths, Derek Wyatt, Hugh Bayley and Mr David Curry do prepare and bring it in.
5 Cinemas (Rural Areas) Bill,-Mr David Rendel accordingly presented a Bill to make provision about cinemas in rural areas: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 15th October and to be printed [Bill 126].
6 Domestic Violence, Crime and Victims Bill [Lords] [Ways and Means],-Resolved, That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Domestic Violence, Crime and Victims Bill [Lords], it is expedient to authorise the payment into the Consolidated Fund of any amounts recovered in respect of payments made under the Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme.-(Paul Goggins.)
7 Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund,-Ordered, That Mr Barry Gardiner be discharged as a Managing Trustee of the Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund and Mr Tony Colman be appointed as a Managing Trustee in pursuance of section 1 of the Parliamentary and other Pensions Act 1987.-(Mr Phil Woolas.)
8 House of Commons Members' Fund,-Ordered, That Mr Barry Gardiner be discharged as a Managing Trustee of the House of Commons Members' Fund and Mr Tony Colman be appointed as a Managing Trustee in pursuance of section 2 of the House of Commons Members' Fund Act 1939.-(Mr Phil Woolas.)
9 Higher Education Bill (Programme) (No. 5),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 6th November 2003 (Programming of Bills)], That the following provisions shall apply to the Higher Education Bill for the purpose of supplementing the Orders of 27th January 2004 and 31st March 2004:
1. Proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion three hours after their commencement at this day's sitting.
2. Those proceedings shall be taken in the order shown in the first column of the following Table, and each part of those proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the time shown in the second column.
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Lords Amendments |
Time for conclusion of proceedings |
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Amendments Nos. 5, 15 to 20, 22 to 24 |
One hour after the commencement of proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments |
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Amendments Nos. 3, 4, 2, 6 to 8, 13, 9 to 12, 14, 1, 21, 25 to 27 |
Three hours after the commencement of those proceedings |
3. Any further Message from the Lords may be considered forthwith without any further question being put.
4. The proceedings on any further message from the Lords shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement-(Gillian Merron);
Tellers for the Ayes, Bridget Prentice, Gillian Merron: 267.
Tellers for the Noes, Gregory Barker, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 140.
So the Question was agreed to.
10 Higher Education Bill,-The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Higher Education Bill.
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Alan Johnson);
And it being one hour after the commencement of proceedings on consideration of the Lords Amendments, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Order [this day]:-It was agreed to.
The Lord Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
The Deputy Speaker then put the remaining Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.
Amendments ((a) and (b)) were made to the Lords Amendment.
The Lords Amendment, as amended, was agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges.
An Amendment ((a)) was made to the Lords Amendment.
The Lords Amendment, as amended, was agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Derek Twigg);
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nick Ainger, Gillian Merron: 309.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Gregory Barker: 149.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
Lords Amendments No. 16 was disagreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment;
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nick Ainger, Gillian Merron: 312.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Gregory Barker: 164.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 19 was disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 18, 22 and 24 were agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 3 was disagreed to.
Amendments ((a) and (b)) were made to the Bill, in lieu of Lords Amendment No. 3 disagreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Alan Johnson);
And it being three hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Lords Amendments, the Deputy Speaker put the Question.
Tellers for the Ayes, Bridget Prentice, Mr Vernon Coaker: 291.
Tellers for the Noes, Gregory Barker, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 194.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
The Deputy Speaker then put the remaining Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment;
Tellers for the Ayes, Bridget Prentice, Mr Vernon Coaker: 302.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Gregory Barker: 187.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 1, 6 to 14, 21 and 25 to 27 were agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 6th November 2003 (Programming of Bills)], That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 2, 4, 5, 15 to 17 and 19;
That Chris Grayling, Alan Johnson, Mr Bob Laxton, Derek Twigg and Mr Phil Willis be members of the Committee;
That Alan Johnson be Chairman of the Committee;
That three be the Quorum of the Committee;
That the Committee do withdraw immediately-(Derek Twigg):-It was agreed to.
11 Criminal Law,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Criminal Justice and Court Services Act 2000 (Amendment) Order 2004, which was laid before this House on 12th May, be approved-(Mr Nick Ainger):-It was agreed to.
12 Government Resources and Accounts,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Health Service Bodies) Order 2004, which was laid before this House on 7th June, be approved-(Mr Nick Ainger):-It was agreed to.
13 Government Resources and Accounts,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 (Audit of Public Bodies) Order 2004, which was laid before this House on 7th June, be approved-(Mr Nick Ainger):-It was agreed to.
14 Urban Development,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the London Thames Gateway Development Corporation (Area and Constitution) Order 2004, dated 6th May, a copy of which was laid before this House on 11th May, be approved-(Mr Nick Ainger);
Tellers for the Ayes, Paul Clark, Bridget Prentice: 294.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Roger Williams, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 163.
So the Question was agreed to.
15 Marketing of Maize Genetically Modified for Glyphosate Tolerance,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union Document No. 8235/04, draft Council Decision concerning the placing on the market, in accordance with Directive 2001/18/EC, of a maize product (Zea mays L Line NK603) genetically modified for glyphosate tolerance; and supports the Government's view that Monsanto's NK603 maize, to be used as any other maize but excluding cultivation, meets the necessary requirements for authorisation under Directive 2001/18/EC-(Mr Nick Ainger);
Tellers for the Ayes, Paul Clark, Bridget Prentice: 282.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Roger Williams, Richard Younger-Ross: 66.
So the Question was agreed to.
16 Higher Education Bill,-Alan Johnson reported from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their Amendments to the Higher Education Bill, That it had drawn up the following Reasons, which it had directed him to report to the House:
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments No. 2 for the following Reason:
Because any special assistance for students on longer courses is better targeted through grants, loans and bursaries.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 4 for the following Reason:
Because it involves a charge on public funds, and the Commons do not offer any further Reason, trusting that this Reason may be deemed sufficient.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 5 for the following Reason:
Because the recruitment code of the Civil Service Commissioners is not appropriate to the appointment of the Director of Fair Access to Higher Education.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 15 for the following Reason:
Because it is desirable to require separate plans for the purposes of the fees provisions and to require those plans to be approved only by the relevant authority in accordance with regulations.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 16 for the following Reason:
Because it is inappropriate to confer a regulation-making power on the Higher Education Funding Council for England or the Higher Education Funding Council for Wales.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 17 for the following Reason:
Because it is desirable that the Director of Fair Access to Higher Education should have power to enforce the general provisions of an English approved plan.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments No. 19 for the following Reason:
Because it is desirable that the relevant authority in relation to Wales should have power to enforce the general provisions of a Welsh approved plan.
The Reasons were agreed to.
Message to the Lords, to communicate the said Reasons, together with the Bill and Amendments.
17 Public Petitions,-Public Petitions from-
(1) residents of the Isle of Wight and others against the proposed closure of Shanklin Jobcentre, and
(2) Martin Ball for an inquiry into the treatment of the history of the reign of King George III
were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
18 Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Nick Ainger.)
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eight minutes past Six o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 6.08 p.m.
Michael J. Martin
Speaker
Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1 Transport,-British Transport Police (Police Services Agreement) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 1522), dated 21st June 2004 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Darling].
Other Papers:
2 Defence,-Ministry of Defence Minute, dated 23rd June 2004, concerning the gifting of Non-Lethal Military Equipment to the Government of Sierra Leone [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
3 Government Trading Funds,-Report and Accounts of ABRO for 2003-04, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 590] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
4 Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance,-Report of the Northern Ireland Court Service on Legal Aid in Northern Ireland in 2002-03, with the Report of the Lord Chancellor's Advisory Committee on Legal Aid in Northern Ireland thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 675] [Mr David Lammy].
5 Race Relations,-Accounts of the Commission for Racial Equality for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 736] [Clerk of the House].
6 Treaty Series (No. 22, 2004),-Agreement, done at Copenhagen on 27th May 1998, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Czech Republic on International Road Transport [Cm. 6246] [Mr Secretary Straw].
7 Treaty Series (No. 23, 2004),-Agreement, done at Prague on 30th May 2000, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Republic of Slovenia on International Road Transport [Cm. 6247] [Mr Secretary Straw].
8 Treaty Series (No. 24, 2004),-Agreement, done at Bratislava on 11th January 2001, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Slovak Republic on International Road Transport [Cm. 6248] [Mr Secretary Straw].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1 Public Audit (Wales) Bill [Lords]:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee D; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Martin Caton, Dr Hywel Francis, Mr Dai Havard, Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger, Ian Lucas, Diana Organ, Mr Andrew Robathan, Chris Ruane, Jim Sheridan, Mr Hugo Swire, Mark Tami, Mr Don Touhig, Mr Bill Wiggin, Hywel Williams and Mr Roger Williams.
2 Health Protection Agency Bill [Lords]:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee F; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Adrian Bailey, Kevin Brennan, Mr Paul Burstow, Mr Mark Francois, Mr Mike Hall, Mr George Howarth, Miss Melanie Johnson, Mr Peter Lilley, Siobhan McDonagh, Rosemary McKenna, Patrick Mercer, Dr Andrew Murrison, Joan Ryan, Sarah Teather, Claire Ward and David Wright.
3 Draft Transport Act 2000 (Consequential Amendment) Order 2004:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Crispin Blunt, Mr William Cash, Ann Coffey, Mr David Crausby, Mr Ian Davidson, Mr Huw Edwards, Mr Roger Godsiff, Mr Kelvin Hopkins, Mr Greg Knight, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Paul Marsden, Gillian Merron, Dr Doug Naysmith, Jonathan Shaw, John Thurso and Mr David Wilshire.
4 Draft Stansted Airport Aircraft Movement Limit (Revocation) Order 2004:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr David Borrow, Ms Karen Buck, Mr Christopher Chope, Mr Iain Coleman, Mr Frank Field, Mr John Greenway, Helen Jackson, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Paul Marsden, Gillian Merron, Clare Short, Mr Clive Soley, John Thurso, Mr Michael Trend, Mr David Wilshire and Derek Wyatt.
5 Draft Rights of Re-Entry and Forfeiture (Prescribed Sum and Period) (England) Regulations 2004:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Ronnie Campbell, Paul Clark, Mr Michael Connarty, Yvette Cooper, Mr Edward Davey, Mr Brian H. Donohoe, Mr Nick Gibb, Mr Brian Jenkins, Lynne Jones, Mr Michael Mates, Mr Terry Rooney, Mr Graham Stringer, Mr Hugo Swire, Mr Robert Syms, Mr Shaun Woodward and Richard Younger-Ross.
6 Draft Discharge of Fines by Unpaid Work (Prescribed Hourly Sum) Regulations 2004:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr David Atkinson, Mr Clive Betts, Mrs Anne Campbell, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Geraint Davies, Mr Dominic Grieve, Mr David Heath, Mr Christopher Leslie, Mrs Helen Liddell, Mr Robert Marshall-Andrews, Mr Austin Mitchell, Bridget Prentice, Mr John Redwood, Mr John Robertson, Mr Bob Russell and Mr John Smith.
7 Draft Courts Act 2003 (Consequential Amendments) Order 2004:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Graham Allen, Mr Alistair Carmichael, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Geraint Davies, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Mr Frank Dobson, Paul Flynn, Mr David Heath, Kate Hoey, Mr Edward Leigh, Mr Christopher Leslie, Mr Michael Meacher, Bridget Prentice, Mr Ernie Ross, Mr Marsha Singh and Mr Ian Taylor.
8 Draft Chilterns Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (Establishment of Conservation Board) Order 2004 and the draft Cotswolds Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (Establishment of Conservation Board) Order 2004:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Orders to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, John Austin, Norman Baker, Virginia Bottomley, Mr Ben Bradshaw, Mr Stephen Byers, Jeremy Corbyn, Sue Doughty, Jim Dowd, Mr James Gray, Alan Keen, Tony Lloyd, Mr John Maples, Mr Alan Meale, Dr Nick Palmer and Mr David Wilshire.
9 Draft Tobacco Advertising and Promotion (Brandsharing) Regulations 2004:
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Kevin Barron, Mr Nicholas Brown, Mr Paul Burstow, Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas, Mr Tam Dalyell, Mr Nigel Evans, Mr Mark Francois, Mr John Horam, Dr Brian Iddon, Miss Melanie Johnson, Tim Loughton, Mr Andy Reed, Joan Ryan, Geraldine Smith, Claire Ward and Pete Wishart.
European Standing Committees
10 European Union Documents No. 9317/04 relating to approximation, mutual recognition and enforcement of criminal sanctions, has been referred to European Standing Committee B.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1 Defence,-(1) Fifth Report from the Defence Committee [The Defence White Paper 2003]; with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 465]; and
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence Committee [Iraq]; to be printed [No. 721-i]
2 Draft Charities Bill,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on the Draft Charities Bill; to be printed [No. 660-v]; and
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 660-vi]
3 Education and Skills,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [UK eUniversity]; to be printed [No. 755-i]; and
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [International Education]; to be printed [No. 647-ii]
4 Environmental Audit,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environmental Audit Committee [Housing: Building a Sustainable Future?]; to be printed [No. 709-ii] [Mr Peter Ainsworth].
5 European Scrutiny,-Twenty-fourth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed , with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 42-xxiv] [Mr Michael Connarty].
6 Joint Committees (Choice of Chairman),-Mr John Greenway reported from the Committee appointed to join with a Committee of the Lords as the Joint Committee on the Draft Gambling Bill (Regional Casinos), that he had been chosen Chairman of the Joint Committee.
7 Modernisation of the House of Commons,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons [Scrutiny of European Matters in the House of Commons]; to be printed [No. 565-ii] [Mr Peter Hain].
8 Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [Local Government revenue]; to be printed [No. 402-v] [Andrew Bennett].
9 Public Accounts,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [London Underground: Are the Public Private Partnerships likely to work successfully? and London Underground PPP: Were they good deals?]; to be printed [No. 783-i] [Mr Alan Williams].
10 Science and Technology,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [Human reproductive technologies and the law]; to be printed [No. 599-ii] [Dr Ian Gibson].
11 Transport,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Committee [Tonnage Tax]; to be printed [No. 738-i] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
12 Treasury,-(1) Sixth Special Report from the Treasury Committee [Supplementary Government Response to the First Report from the Committee, Transparency of Credit Card Charges]; to be printed [No. 761]; and
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Restoring confidence in long-term savings]; to be printed [No. 71-xi]
13 Welsh Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee (enlarged by the Economic Development and Transport Committee, National Assembly for Wales) [Draft Transport (Wales) Bill]; to be printed [No. 759-i] [Mr Martyn Jones].
14 Work and Pensions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee [Service Delivery to Minority Ethnic Customers]; to be printed [No. 665-ii] [Sir Archy Kirkwood].
[W.H., No. 66]
Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mr Jim Murphy.)
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 5.51 p.m.
Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker
CORRIGENDUM
In the Votes and Proceedings for Tuesday 22nd June, in Appendix I, items 2(1) and (2), relating to the Criminal Justice (Evidence) (Northern Ireland) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 1501) and the Criminal Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 1500) should have appeared under the heading 'Papers subject to Negative Resolution' and should have been laid in the name of Mr Secretary Murphy.
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