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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 10th November 1998

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Peter Atkinson reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Local Elections (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Order 1998 and the draft Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations 1998.
 
        Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
2Road Traffic Reduction (National Targets) (Amendment),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend the Road Traffic Reduction (National Targets) Act 1998 to require the Secretary of State to produce a report on reducing traffic levels to below 1997 levels by 2002: And that Mr Tom Brake, Mr Cynog Dafis, Mr Jeremy Corbyn, Mr Peter Bottomley, Mr Matthew Taylor, Mr Norman Baker and Mr Andrew Stunell do prepare and bring it in.
3Road Traffic Reduction (National Targets) (Amendment) Bill,—Mr Tom Brake accordingly presented a Bill to amend the Road Traffic Reduction (National Targets) Act 1998 to require the Secretary of State to produce a report on reducing traffic levels to below 1997 levels by 2002: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 257].
4Factory Closures,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House is concerned about the continued spate of factory closures and job losses; condemns the Government's failure to take urgent action to give manufacturing a chance; believes that this Government's actions in increasing business taxes and regulation have made the position worse; asks the Government to explain how far they will go in implementing the McKinsey Report on productivity; and urges the Government to change policy before more jobs are lost—(Mr John Redwood);
 
        An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 1, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'recognises that the last thing business wants is a return to the boom and bust policies of the past, with interest rates of 15 per cent., inflation above 10 per cent. and a budget deficit averaging £41 billion a year from 1992 to 1996; welcomes the Government's decisive action in taking politics out of interest rate decisions, a move which the Opposition clearly does not support; notes that employment is currently 400,000 higher than it was when the Government came into office, and that long-term interest rates are at their lowest for 35 years; welcomes the measures that the Government has taken to encourage enterprise, investment and innovation, and to help unemployed people into jobs; welcomes the McKinsey Report as an important contribution to the productivity debate and notes that, unlike its predecessor, this Government acted to increase competitive conditions through a new Competition Act; and condemns the Opposition for its own record in government, when manufacturing employment declined by 2Ø million and Britain went into deficit on manufacturing trade for the first time ever in peacetime', instead thereof.—(Mr Secretary Mandelson.)
 
        And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question, pursuant to Order [5th November];
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Caroline Spelman, Sir David Madel: 154.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Jane Kennedy, Mr David Jamieson: 323.
 
        So the Question was negatived.
 
        And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Order:—It was agreed to.
 
        The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.
 
        Resolved, That this House recognises that the last thing business wants is a return to the boom and bust policies of the past, with interest rates of 15 per cent., inflation above 10 per cent. and a budget deficit averaging £41 billion a year from 1992 to 1996; welcomes the Government's decisive action in taking politics out of interest rate decisions, a move which the Opposition clearly does not support; notes that employment is currently 400,000 higher than it was when the Government came into office, and that long-term interest rates are at their lowest for 35 years; welcomes the measures that the Government has taken to encourage enterprise, investment and innovation, and to help unemployed people into jobs; welcomes the McKinsey Report as an important contribution to the productivity debate and notes that, unlike its predecessor, this Government acted to increase competitive conditions through a new Competition Act; and condemns the Opposition for its own record in government, when manufacturing employment declined by 2Ø million and Britain went into deficit on manufacturing trade for the first time ever in peacetime.
5European Parliamentary Elections Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Reasons for insisting on their Amendments disagreed to by the Commons.
 
        The Lords Reason for insisting on their Amendments in page 2, line 1, page 2, line 2, page 2, line 15, and page 2, line 18, was read, as follows:
 
          Because electors should be able to vote for the individual party candidate of their choice.
 
        A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House insists on its disagreement with the Lords in their Amendments—(Mr Secretary Straw);
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Keith Hill, Mrs Anne McGuire: 307.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Sir David Madel, Mrs Caroline Spelman: 125.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        It being Ten o'clock, further consideration of the European Parliamentary Elections Bill stood adjourned.
6Business of the House,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted Business), That, at this day's sitting, the European Parliamentary Elections Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour—(Mr Mike Hall):—It was agreed to.
7European Parliamentary Elections Bill,—The House again proceeded to consider the Lords reasons for insisting on their Amendments disagreed to by the Commons.
 
        An Amendment was proposed to the Bill, in lieu of the Lords Amendments, in page 3, line 46, at the end to insert the words—
'Review of electoral system
 
        —(1) The Secretary of State shall appoint one or more persons—
 
          (a) to review the operation of the system of election provided for by section 3 of the European Parliamentary Elections Act 1978 as substituted by section 1 of this Act, and
 
          (b) to make a report to the Secretary of State within six months from the day of appointment.
 
        (2) the Secretary of State shall carry out his duty under subsection (1) within one month from the date of the first general election to the European Parliament which takes place after the coming into force of section 1.
 
        (3) The Secretary of State shall lay a copy of any report received under subsection (1)(b) before each House of Parliament.'—(Mr Mike Hall.)
 
        And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made:—It was agreed to.
8Income Tax,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that the Personal Equity Plan (Amendment) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1869), dated 31st July 1998, a copy of which was laid before this House on 31st July, be annulled—(Mr Nick Gibb);
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Caroline Spelman, Sir David Madel: 116.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr Robert Ainsworth: 293.
 
        So the Question was negatived.
9Agriculture,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Meat and Livestock Commission Levy (Variation) Scheme (Confirmation) Order 1998, which was laid before this House on 21st July, be approved-(Mr David Hanson):—It was agreed to.
10Northern Ireland,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Local Government (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 1998, which was laid before this House on 21st July, be approved—(Mr David Hanson):—It was agreed to.
11Northern Ireland,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Health and Safety at Work (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 1998, which was laid before this House on 23rd July, be approved—(Mr David Hanson):—It was agreed to.
12Social Action Programme (1998-2000),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Community Document No. 8328/98, a Commission Communication on its proposed Social Action Programme for 1998-2000; supports the Government's view that the Programme rightly places jobs at the heart of its framework for action; and also supports the Government's intention to give due consideration to specific Commission proposals as they come forward—(Mr David Hanson):—It was agreed to.
13Forestry,—Ordered, That the Environmental Assessment (Forestry) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1731), dated 21st July 1998, a copy of which was laid before this House on 23rd July, be referred to a Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation.—(Mr David Hanson.)
14Animals,—Ordered, That the Cattle Database Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1796), dated 20th July 1998, a copy of which was laid before this House on 27th July, be referred to a Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation.—(Mr David Hanson.)
15Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from—
 
        (1) citizens of Coventry opposed to any reduction in National Health Service emergency facilities in the centre of the city; and
 
        (2) the British Pensioners and Trade Union Action Association of Coventry in support of the welfare state
 
    were presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
16Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr David Hanson);
Wednesday 11th November 1998
 
        And the Question being put;
 
        Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.
 
        And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eight minutes past Twelve o'clock on Wednesday morning, adjourned till this day.
[Adjourned at 12.08 a.m.
Betty Boothroyd
Speaker        

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.

APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1Education,—Education (Individual Pupils' Achievements) (Information) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 2705), dated 30th October 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Michael].
2Friendly Societies,—Friendly Societies (Activities of a Subsidiary) (No. 2) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 2696), dated 6th November 1998 [by Act] [Ms Patricia Hewitt].
Other Papers:
3Churches Conservation,—Report and Accounts of the Churches Conservation Trust for 1997-98 [by Measure] [Mr Secretary Smith].
4Environment,—Report and Accounts of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency for 1997-98 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Dewar].
APPENDIX II
Reports from Select Committees
1Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Employment Committee on 10th November [Opportunities for Disabled People]; to be printed [No. 1104-ii][Mr Derek Foster].
2Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee on 10th November 1998 [Local Government Finance]; to be printed [No. 1126-ii] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].
3Foreign Affairs,—Part of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee on 10th November [Sierra Leone]; to be printed [No. 1057-iii] [Mr Donald Anderson].
4Home Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee on 10th November [The Work of the Lord Chancellor's Department]; to be printed [No. 1145-i] [Mr Chris Mullin].
5International Development,—Eighth Special Report from the International Development Committee [Government Response to the Fifth Report from the Committee, on the 1998 Departmental Report]; to be printed [No. 1144] [Mr Bowen Wells].
6Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration on 10th November [Annual Report of the Health Service Commissioner for 1997-98]; to be printed [No. 934-iii] [Mr Rhodri Morgan].
7Standards and Privileges,—Nineteenth Report from the Committee on Standards and Privileges [Retirement of the Parliamentary Commissioner], together with an Appendix (Memorandum by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards); to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1147] [Mr Robert Sheldon].
8Statutory Instruments,—Forty-seventh Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 33-xlvii] [Mr David Tredinnick].
9Trade and Industry,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee on 10th November [Strategic Export Controls]; to be printed [No. 1146-i] [Mr Martin O'Neill].
10Welsh Affairs,—(1) Fourth Report from the Welsh Affairs Committee [Investment in Industry in Wales], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 821];
 
        (2) Fourth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Second Report from the Committee on the Present Crisis in the Welsh Livestock Industry]; to be printed [No. 1148]; and
 
        (3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Investment in Industry in Wales]
 
    [Mr Martyn Jones].



 
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