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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 26th January 1999

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1 First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Frank Cook reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Mental Health Act 1983 Code of Practice.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

2 Military Action Against Iraq (Parliamentary Approval),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to require the prior approval, by a simple majority of the House of Commons, of military action by United Kingdom forces against Iraq: And that Mr Tam Dalyell, Mr Tony Benn, Mr Harry Cohen, Mr Jeremy Corbyn, Mr George Galloway, Mr Neil Gerrard, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr John McAllion, Alice Mahon, Mr Robert Marshall-Andrews, Mr Dennis Skinner and Audrey Wise do prepare and bring it in.

3 Military Action Against Iraq (Parliamentary Approval) Bill,—Mr Tam Dalyell accordingly presented a Bill to require the prior approval, by a simple majority of the House of Commons, of military action by United Kingdom forces against Iraq: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 16th April and to be printed [Bill 35].

4 Tax Credits Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Tax Credits Bill;

    And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from word 'That' to the end of the Question and add the words 'this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Tax Credits Bill because it will increase the costs of social security when the Prime Minister has pledged to cut those costs; and it will increase benefit dependency, stigma, fraud and business costs, whilst undermining family structures', instead thereof.—(Mr Eric Pickles.)

    And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nigel Waterson, Sir David Madel: 126.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Hanson, Jane Kennedy: 365.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading);

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clive Betts, Jane Kennedy: 320.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nigel Waterson, Sir David Madel: 160.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.

5 Tax Credits Bill [Money],—Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Tax Credits Bill [Money];

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Tax Credits Bill, it is expedient to authorise—

    (a) the payment out of money provided by Parliament of any expenses incurred by the Commissioners of Inland Revenue in consequence of that Act;

    (b) any increase attributable to that Act in the sums payable out of money so provided under any other Act; and

    (c) the payment into the Consolidated Fund of any increase attributable to that Act in the sums payable into that Fund under any other Act—(Mrs Anne McGuire):—It was agreed to.

6 Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from residents of Derby North constituency and others relating to driving offences was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

7 Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mrs Anne McGuire);

    And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then four minutes to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.56 p.m.

Betty Boothroyd
Speaker

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.

APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1 Northern Ireland,—Draft Departments (Northern Ireland) Order 1999 [by Act] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam].

2 Social Security,—Draft Social Security Benefits Up-rating (No. 2) Order 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

3 Betting, Gaming and Lotteries,—Gaming (Variation of Monetary Limits) Order (Northern Ireland) 1999 (S.R.(N.I.), 1999, No. 4), dated 7th January 1999 [by Act] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam].

4 Education,—Education Development Plans (England) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 138), dated 25th January 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

5 National Lottery,—National Lottery (Imposition of Penalties and Revocation of Licences) Procedure Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 137), dated 25th January 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].

6 Road Traffic,—(1) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of Manchester) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 131),

    (2) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Hampshire) (City of Winchester) (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 132), and

    (3) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Kent) (Borough of Maidstone) (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 130),

dated 23rd January 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

Other Papers:

7 Agriculture,—Report and Accounts of the Meat and Livestock Commission for 1997-98 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown].

8 Criminal Injuries Compensation,—Report and Accounts of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Command] [Cm. 4184] [Mr Secretary Straw].

9 National Heritage (Scotland),—Accounts of the:—

    (1) National Galleries of Scotland,

    (2) National Library of Scotland, and

    (3) National Museums of Scotland

for 1997-98, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 189, 190 and 191] [Clerk of the House].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1 Draft Legal Aid (Prescribed Panels) Regulations 1998,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Barry Jones Chairman of the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Legal Aid (Prescribed Panels) Regulations 1998, in place of Mr Jim Cunningham.

2 Open-Ended Investment Companies (Investment Companies with Variable Capital) (Fees) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3087) and the Companies (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3088),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Tony Benn and Mr Kevin McNamara from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr Ronnie Campbell and Mrs Joan Humble.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1 Agriculture,—(1) Third Report from the Agriculture Committee [The UK Pig Industry], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 87];

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Sea Fishing]; to be printed [No. 141-ii]; and

    (3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Sea Fishing; Badgers and Bovine Tuberculosis]

[Mr Peter Luff].

2 Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Employment Committee [Access for all?]; to be printed [No. 57-iii] [Mr Malcolm Wicks].

3 Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Reducing the Environmental Impact of Consumer Products]; to be printed [No. 149-ii] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].

4 Foreign Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [Kosovo]; to be printed [No. 188-i] [Mr Donald Anderson].

5 International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Women and Development]; to be printed [No. 160-ii] [Mr Bowen Wells].

6 Procedure,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Procedure Committee [Procedural Consequences of Devolution]; to be printed [No. 185-i] [Mr Nicholas Winterton].

7 Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Annual Report of the Health Commissioner for 1997-98]; to be printed [No. 54-iv] [Mr Rhodri Morgan].

8 Statutory Instruments,—Sixth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 50-vi] [Mr David Tredinnick].

9 Trade and Industry,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [Electronic Commerce]; to be printed [No. 187-i] [Mr Roger Berry].

10 Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [The Council of Economic and Finance Ministers (ECOFIN)]; to be printed [No. 186-i] [Mr Giles Radice].

11 Welsh Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Childcare in Wales]; to be printed [No. 156-ii] [Mr Martyn Jones].

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1	First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Frank Cook reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Mental Health Act 1983 Code of Practice.
	Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
2	Military Action Against Iraq (Parliamentary Approval),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to require the prior approval, by a simple majority of the House of Commons, of military action by United Kingdom forces against Iraq: And that Mr Tam Dalyell, Mr Tony Benn, Mr Harry Cohen, Mr Jeremy Corbyn, Mr George Galloway, Mr Neil Gerrard, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr John McAllion, Alice Mahon, Mr Robert Marshall-Andrews, Mr Dennis Skinner and Audrey Wise do prepare and bring it in.
3	Military Action Against Iraq (Parliamentary Approval) Bill,—Mr Tam Dalyell accordingly presented a Bill to require the prior approval, by a simple majority of the House of Commons, of military action by United Kingdom forces against Iraq: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 16th April and to be printed [Bill 35].
4	Tax Credits Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Tax Credits Bill;
	And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;
	An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from word 'That' to the end of the Question and add the words 'this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Tax Credits Bill because it will increase the costs of social security when the Prime Minister has pledged to cut those costs; and it will increase benefit dependency, stigma, fraud and business costs, whilst undermining family structures', instead thereof.—(Mr Eric Pickles.)
	And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nigel Waterson, Sir David Madel: 126.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Hanson, Jane Kennedy: 365.
	So the Question was negatived.
	And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading);
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clive Betts, Jane Kennedy: 320.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nigel Waterson, Sir David Madel: 160.
	So the Question was agreed to.
	The Bill was accordingly read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.
5	Tax Credits Bill [Money],—Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Tax Credits Bill [Money];
	A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Tax Credits Bill, it is expedient to authorise—
	(a) the payment out of money provided by Parliament of any expenses incurred by the Commissioners of Inland Revenue in consequence of that Act;
	(b) any increase attributable to that Act in the sums payable out of money so provided under any other Act; and
	(c) the payment into the Consolidated Fund of any increase attributable to that Act in the sums payable into that Fund under any other Act—(Mrs Anne McGuire):—It was agreed to.
6	Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from residents of Derby North constituency and others relating to driving offences was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
7	Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mrs Anne McGuire);
	And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then four minutes to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.56 p.m.
*Betty Boothroyd* *Speaker*
Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
1	Northern Ireland,—Draft Departments (Northern Ireland) Order 1999 [by Act] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam].
2	Social Security,—Draft Social Security Benefits Up-rating (No. 2) Order 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
3	Betting, Gaming and Lotteries,—Gaming (Variation of Monetary Limits) Order (Northern Ireland) 1999 (S.R.(N.I.), 1999, No. 4), dated 7th January 1999 [by Act] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam].
4	Education,—Education Development Plans (England) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 138), dated 25th January 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
5	National Lottery,—National Lottery (Imposition of Penalties and Revocation of Licences) Procedure Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 137), dated 25th January 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].
6	Road Traffic,—(1) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of Manchester) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 131),
	(2) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Hampshire) (City of Winchester) (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 132), and
	(3) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Kent) (Borough of Maidstone) (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 130),
	dated 23rd January 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
Other Papers:
7	Agriculture,—Report and Accounts of the Meat and Livestock Commission for 1997-98 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown].
8	Criminal Injuries Compensation,—Report and Accounts of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Command] [Cm. 4184] [Mr Secretary Straw].
9	National Heritage (Scotland),—Accounts of the:—
	(1) National Galleries of Scotland,
	(2) National Library of Scotland, and
	(3) National Museums of Scotland
	for 1997-98, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 189, 190 and 191] [Clerk of the House].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1	Draft Legal Aid (Prescribed Panels) Regulations 1998,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Barry Jones Chairman of the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Legal Aid (Prescribed Panels) Regulations 1998, in place of Mr Jim Cunningham.
2	Open-Ended Investment Companies (Investment Companies with Variable Capital) (Fees) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3087) and the Companies (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3088),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Tony Benn and Mr Kevin McNamara from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr Ronnie Campbell and Mrs Joan Humble.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1	Agriculture,—(1) Third Report from the Agriculture Committee [The UK Pig Industry], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 87];
	(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Sea Fishing]; to be printed [No. 141-ii]; and
	(3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Sea Fishing; Badgers and Bovine Tuberculosis]
	[Mr Peter Luff].
2	Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Employment Committee [Access for all?]; to be printed [No. 57-iii] [Mr Malcolm Wicks].
3	Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Reducing the Environmental Impact of Consumer Products]; to be printed [No. 149-ii] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].
4	Foreign Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [Kosovo]; to be printed [No. 188-i] [Mr Donald Anderson].
5	International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Women and Development]; to be printed [No. 160-ii] [Mr Bowen Wells].
6	Procedure,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Procedure Committee [Procedural Consequences of Devolution]; to be printed [No. 185-i] [Mr Nicholas Winterton].
7	Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Annual Report of the Health Commissioner for 1997-98]; to be printed [No. 54-iv] [Mr Rhodri Morgan].
8	Statutory Instruments,—Sixth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 50-vi] [Mr David Tredinnick].
9	Trade and Industry,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [Electronic Commerce]; to be printed [No. 187-i] [Mr Roger Berry].
10	Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [The Council of Economic and Finance Ministers (ECOFIN)]; to be printed [No. 186-i] [Mr Giles Radice].
11	Welsh Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Childcare in Wales]; to be printed [No. 156-ii] [Mr Martyn Jones].



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