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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 17th May 1999

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1 Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.

    Ordered, That the Bill, as amended, be considered in the following order, namely: New Clauses; Amendments relating to Clauses Nos. 1 to 6, Schedule No. 1, Clauses Nos. 7 to 16, Schedule No. 2, Clause No. 17, Schedule No. 3, Clauses Nos. 18 and 19, Schedule No. 4, Clauses Nos. 20 to 29, Schedule No. 5, Clauses Nos. 30 to 44, Schedule No. 6, Clauses Nos. 45 to 50, Schedule No. 7, Clauses Nos. 51 to 61, Schedule No. 8, Clauses Nos. 62 to 64, Schedule No. 9, Clause No. 65, Schedule No. 10, Clauses Nos. 66 to 70, Schedule No. 11 and Clause No. 71; New Schedules; Amendments relating to Clauses Nos. 72 and 73, Schedule No. 12, Clauses Nos. 74 to 76, Schedule No. 13 and Clauses Nos. 77 to 79.—(Jim Dowd.)

    A Clause (Extension of entitlement to state maternity allowance)—(Mr Hugh Bayley)—brought up, and read the first time.

    Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Greg Pope, Jim Dowd: 365.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tim Collins, Sir David Madel: 130.

    Clause added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Optional work-focused interviews)—(Mr Andrew Smith)—brought up, and read the first and second time.

    Amendment (a) proposed to the proposed Clause, to leave out lines 22 and 23.—(Mr Iain Duncan Smith.)

    Question put, That the Amendment to the proposed Clause be made.

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John M. Taylor, Mr Tim Collins: 133.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mrs Anne McGuire: 409.

    Clause added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Excessive pension contributions made by persons who have become insolvent)—(Mr Stephen Timms)—brought up, and read the first time.

    Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Jamieson, Jane Kennedy: 415.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tim Collins, Mr John M. Taylor: 138.

    Clause added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Excessive pension contributions made by persons who have become insolvent: Scotland)—(Mr Kevin Hughes)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Earnings of workers supplied by service companies etc.)—(Mr Stephen Timms)—brought up, and read the first time.

    Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time;

    And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.

2 Business of the House,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business), That, at this day's sitting, the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour—(Mr David Clelland):—It was agreed to.

3 Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill,—The House again proceeded to consider the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.

    Question again proposed, That the Clause (Earnings of workers supplied by service companies etc.) be read a second time:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate.

    Question put.

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Hanson, Mr Keith Hill: 375.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Tim Collins: 182.

    Clause added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Earnings of workers supplied by service companies etc.: Northern Ireland)—(Mr Kevin Hughes)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Additional bereavement allowance)—(Mr Eric Pickles)—brought up, and read the first time.

    Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—

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    Clause, by leave, withdrawn.

    Another Clause (Age additions)—(Steve Webb)—brought up, and read the first time.

    Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Heath, Mr Andrew Stunell: 41.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Graham Allen, Mrs Anne McGuire: 361.

    Another Clause (Income support premiums payable upon termination of bereavement allowance)—(Mr David Rendel)—brought up, and read the first time.

    Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr David Heath: 41.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Graham Allen, Mrs Anne McGuire: 360.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That further consideration of the Bill be now adjourned—(Mr Keith Bradley);

    Mr Keith Bradley rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put;

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Keith Hill: 318.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mr Tim Collins: 34.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put, That further consideration of the Bill be now adjourned;

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Keith Hill: 314.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Roger Gale: 21.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Bill to be further considered to-morrow.

4 Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Clive Betts);

    And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock on Monday evening, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then twenty-seven minutes past Five o'clock on Tuesday morning, till this day.

[Adjourned at 5.27 a.m.

Betty Boothroyd
Speaker

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.

APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1 Constitutional Law,—Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Publication and Interpretation etc. of Acts of the Scottish Parliament) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1379), dated 13th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].

2 Social Security,—Social Security (Hospital In-Patients, Attendance Allowance and Disability Living Allowance) (Amendment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1326), dated 10th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

Other Papers:

3 Coroners,—Cambridgeshire (Coroners' Districts) (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1325), dated 10th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].

4 Environment, Transport and the Regions,—Paper, entitled A better quality of life: a strategy for sustainable development for the United Kingdom [by Command] [Cm. 4345] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

5 Industrial Development (Northern Ireland),—Accounts of the Industrial Development Board for Northern Ireland for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Command] [Cm. 4333] [Secretary Majorie Mowlam].

6 National Lottery,—Paper, entitled Investing for our sporting future: Sport England Lottery Fund Strategy 1999-2009 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1 Draft Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) (Amendment) Regulations 1999,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr John Grogan from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Dr Desmond Turner.

2 Value Added Tax (Amendment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 438),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr John Whittingdale from the Tenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr Nick Gibb.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1 Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Employment Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee [Single Work-focused Gateway Pilots]; to be printed [No. 412-iv] [Mr Paul Keetch].

2 Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [HM Prison Service: Managing Sickness Absence in the Prison Service]; to be printed [No. 453-i] [Mr David Davis].

3 Social Security and Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Social Security Committee and the Employment Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee, meeting concurrently pursuant to paragraph (4) of Standing Order No. 152 (Select committees related to government departments) [Single Work-focused Gateway Pilots]; to be printed [No. 412-iii] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1	Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.
	Ordered, That the Bill, as amended, be considered in the following order, namely: New Clauses; Amendments relating to Clauses Nos. 1 to 6, Schedule No. 1, Clauses Nos. 7 to 16, Schedule No. 2, Clause No. 17, Schedule No. 3, Clauses Nos. 18 and 19, Schedule No. 4, Clauses Nos. 20 to 29, Schedule No. 5, Clauses Nos. 30 to 44, Schedule No. 6, Clauses Nos. 45 to 50, Schedule No. 7, Clauses Nos. 51 to 61, Schedule No. 8, Clauses Nos. 62 to 64, Schedule No. 9, Clause No. 65, Schedule No. 10, Clauses Nos. 66 to 70, Schedule No. 11 and Clause No. 71; New Schedules; Amendments relating to Clauses Nos. 72 and 73, Schedule No. 12, Clauses Nos. 74 to 76, Schedule No. 13 and Clauses Nos. 77 to 79.—(Jim Dowd.)
	A Clause (Extension of entitlement to state maternity allowance)—(Mr Hugh Bayley)—brought up, and read the first time.
	Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Greg Pope, Jim Dowd: 365.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tim Collins, Sir David Madel: 130.
	Clause added to the Bill.
	Another Clause (Optional work-focused interviews)—(Mr Andrew Smith)—brought up, and read the first and second time.
	Amendment (a) proposed to the proposed Clause, to leave out lines 22 and 23.—(Mr Iain Duncan Smith.)
	Question put, That the Amendment to the proposed Clause be made.
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John M. Taylor, Mr Tim Collins: 133.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mrs Anne McGuire: 409.
	Clause added to the Bill.
	Another Clause (Excessive pension contributions made by persons who have become insolvent)—(Mr Stephen Timms)—brought up, and read the first time.
	Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Jamieson, Jane Kennedy: 415.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tim Collins, Mr John M. Taylor: 138.
	Clause added to the Bill.
	Another Clause (Excessive pension contributions made by persons who have become insolvent: Scotland)—(Mr Kevin Hughes)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.
	Another Clause (Earnings of workers supplied by service companies etc.)—(Mr Stephen Timms)—brought up, and read the first time.
	Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time;
	And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
2	Business of the House,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business), That, at this day's sitting, the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour—(Mr David Clelland):—It was agreed to.
3	Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill,—The House again proceeded to consider the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.
	Question again proposed, That the Clause (Earnings of workers supplied by service companies etc.) be read a second time:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate.
	Question put.
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Hanson, Mr Keith Hill: 375.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Tim Collins: 182.
	Clause added to the Bill.
	Another Clause (Earnings of workers supplied by service companies etc.: Northern Ireland)—(Mr Kevin Hughes)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.
	Another Clause (Additional bereavement allowance)—(Mr Eric Pickles)—brought up, and read the first time.
	Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—
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	Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
	Another Clause (Age additions)—(Steve Webb)—brought up, and read the first time.
	Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Heath, Mr Andrew Stunell: 41.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Graham Allen, Mrs Anne McGuire: 361.
	Another Clause (Income support premiums payable upon termination of bereavement allowance)—(Mr David Rendel)—brought up, and read the first time.
	Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr David Heath: 41.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Graham Allen, Mrs Anne McGuire: 360.
	A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That further consideration of the Bill be now adjourned—(Mr Keith Bradley);
	Mr Keith Bradley rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.
	And the Question being put, That the Question be now put;
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Keith Hill: 318.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mr Tim Collins: 34.
	So the Question was agreed to.
	And the Question being accordingly put, That further consideration of the Bill be now adjourned;
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Keith Hill: 314.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Roger Gale: 21.
	So the Question was agreed to.
	Bill to be further considered to-morrow.
4	Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Clive Betts);
	And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock on Monday evening, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then twenty-seven minutes past Five o'clock on Tuesday morning, till this day.
[Adjourned at 5.27 a.m.
*Betty Boothroyd* *Speaker*
Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1	Constitutional Law,—Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Publication and Interpretation etc. of Acts of the Scottish Parliament) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1379), dated 13th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].
2	Social Security,—Social Security (Hospital In-Patients, Attendance Allowance and Disability Living Allowance) (Amendment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1326), dated 10th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].
Other Papers:
3	Coroners,—Cambridgeshire (Coroners' Districts) (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1325), dated 10th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].
4	Environment, Transport and the Regions,—Paper, entitled A better quality of life: a strategy for sustainable development for the United Kingdom [by Command] [Cm. 4345] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
5	Industrial Development (Northern Ireland),—Accounts of the Industrial Development Board for Northern Ireland for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Command] [Cm. 4333] [Secretary Majorie Mowlam].
6	National Lottery,—Paper, entitled Investing for our sporting future: Sport England Lottery Fund Strategy 1999-2009 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1	Draft Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) (Amendment) Regulations 1999,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr John Grogan from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Dr Desmond Turner.
2	Value Added Tax (Amendment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 438),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr John Whittingdale from the Tenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr Nick Gibb.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1	Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Employment Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee [Single Work-focused Gateway Pilots]; to be printed [No. 412-iv] [Mr Paul Keetch].
2	Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [HM Prison Service: Managing Sickness Absence in the Prison Service]; to be printed [No. 453-i] [Mr David Davis].
3	Social Security and Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Social Security Committee and the Employment Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee, meeting concurrently pursuant to paragraph (4) of Standing Order No. 152 (Select committees related to government departments) [Single Work-focused Gateway Pilots]; to be printed [No. 412-iii] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].