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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Thursday 20th May 1999

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1 Disability Rights Commission Bill [Lords],—Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody reported from Standing Committee F, That it had gone through the Disability Rights Commission Bill [Lords], and made Amendments thereunto.

    Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 108].

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 471].

2 Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [Lords],—The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision for implementing Council Directive 96/61/EC and for otherwise preventing and controlling pollution; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

3 Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [Lords],—The Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [Lords] was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 107].

    Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 107-EN].

4 Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill (Allocation of Time),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the following provisions shall apply to the remaining proceedings on the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—

Order of consideration

    1. The Bill, as amended, shall be further considered in the following order, namely amendments relating to Clauses 53 to 56; remaining New Clauses; amendments relating to Clauses 1 to 6, Schedule 1, Clauses 7 to 16, Schedule 2, Clause 17, Schedule 3, Clauses 18 and 19, Schedule 4, Clauses 20 to 29, Schedule 5, Clauses 30 to 44, Schedule 6, Clauses 45 to 50, Schedule 7, Clauses 51 and 52, Clauses 57 to 61, Schedule 8, Clauses 62 to 64, Schedule 9, Clause 65, Schedule 10, Clauses 66 to 70, Schedule 11 and Clause 71; New Schedules; amendments relating to Clauses 72 and 73, Schedule 12, Clauses 74 to 76, Schedule 13 and Clauses 77 to 79.

Timetable

    2.—(1) Proceedings on Consideration in respect of amendments relating to Clauses 53 to 56 shall be completed at today's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion four and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Motion.

    (2) The remaining proceedings on Consideration and Third Reading shall be completed at today's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion six hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Motion.

Questions to be put

    3.—(1) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 2(1) the Speaker shall forthwith put the following Questions (but no others)—

    (a) any Question already proposed from the Chair;

    (b) any Question necessary to bring to a decision a Question so proposed;

    (c) the Question that any remaining amendments to Clauses 53 to 56 standing in the name of a Minister of the Crown be made to the Bill;

    (d) any other Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded.

    (2) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 2(2) the Speaker shall forthwith put the following Questions (but no others)—

    (a) any Question already proposed from the Chair;

    (b) any Question necessary to bring to a decision a Question so proposed;

    (c) the Question that all remaining amendments standing in the name of a Minister of the Crown be made to the Bill;

    (d) any other Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded.

Miscellaneous

    4. Standing Order 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to proceedings on the Bill at today's sitting, and the proceedings shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to sittings of the House.

    5. Standing Order No. 82 (Business Committee) shall not apply to proceedings on the Bill.

    6. No Motion shall be made, except by a Minister of the Crown, to alter the order in which any proceedings on the Bill are taken or to recommit the Bill; and if a Minister makes any such Motion, the Question on the Motion shall be put forthwith.

    7. No dilatory Motion shall be made in relation to the Bill except by a Minister of the Crown; and if a Minister makes any such Motion, the Question on the Motion shall be put forthwith.

    8. The proceedings on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after they have been commenced; and Standing Order No. 15(1) shall apply to those proceedings.

    9. If at today's sitting a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (as that Standing Order has effect in accordance with the Order of the House [16th December 1998]) stands over to Four o'clock and proceedings on this Motion have begun before that time, the Motion for the Adjournment shall stand over until the conclusion of proceedings on the Bill.

    10. If the House is adjourned at today's sitting, or the sitting is suspended, before the conclusion of proceedings on the Bill, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order.—(Mr Secretary Darling.)

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Hanson, Jane Kennedy: 377.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Oliver Heald, Sir David Madel: 145.

    So the Question was agreed to.

5 Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.

    Amendment (No. 12) proposed to the Bill, in page 52, line 18, to leave out Clauses 53 and 54.—(Mr Roger Berry.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Bill Michie, Mr Jim Cousins: 270.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Clive Betts: 310.

    And it being four and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion on Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill (Allocation of Time), the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day], put the Question he was directed to put at that time.

    Amendment (No. 31) made to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Duty as an employer to offer payroll deduction facility)—(Mr Quentin Davies)—brought up, and read the first time.

    Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time.

    And it being six hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion on Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill (Allocation of Time), the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair.

    Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tim Collins, Mr Oliver Heald: 128.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Clive Betts: 420.

    The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the remaining Questions he was directed to put to bring proceedings on Consideration and Third Reading to a conclusion.

    Question put, That all the remaining Amendments standing in the name of a Minister of the Crown be made to the Bill.

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Clive Betts: 381.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tim Collins, Mr Oliver Heald: 153.

    Amendments (Nos. 42 to 44, 28, 29, 53 to 62, 66, 67, 46, 32 to 39, 13, 15, 14, 63 to 65, 16, 17, 78, 92 to 105, 40, 91, 30, 47, 106, 9, 41, 48, 68, 69, 108, 49, 109, 111, 112, 18, 70, 71, 10, 11, 19, 51, 50, 72 to 77, 107, 52 and 110) accordingly made to the Bill.

    A Motion being made, That the Bill be now read the third time;

    Mr Secretary Darling, by Her Majesty's Command, acquainted the House, That Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Bill, gives her Consent, as far as Her Majesty's interest is concerned, That the House may do therein as it shall think fit.

    And the Question being put;

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Robert Ainsworth: 360.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Stephen Day: 142.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.

6 Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from residents of the constituency of Ashford against hunting with dogs was presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

7 Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Kevin Hughes.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-three minutes past Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 8.23 p.m.

Betty Boothroyd
Speaker

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.

APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1 Agriculture,—(1) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Avon Valley) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1368),

    (2) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Breckland) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1364),

    (3) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Clun) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1369),

    (4) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Exmoor) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1371),

    (5) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Lake District) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1363),

    (6) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (North Kent Marshes) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1366),

    (7) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (North Peak) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1367),

    (8) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (South Wessex Downs) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1370),

    (9) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Suffolk River Valleys) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1372),

    (10) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Test Valley) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1365),

dated 13th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown].

2 Income Tax,—Non-resident Companies (General Insurance Business) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1408), dated 20th May 1999 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].

Other Papers:

3 Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill,—Report of the Attorney General on the Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [by Standing Order] [Mr Attorney General].

4 Intelligence Services,—Government Response to the Report of the Intelligence and Security Committee on Sierra Leone [by Command] [Cm. 4347] [The Prime Minister].

5 Northern Ireland (Emergency Procedures),—Report of the Independent Assessor of Military Complaints Procedures in Northern Ireland for 1998 [by Act] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam].

6 Video Recordings,—Report and Accounts of the British Board of Film Classification for 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [Lords],—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Harry Cohen from Standing Committee E (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Hilton Dawson.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1 Agriculture,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Agriculture Committee [Sea Fishing]; to be printed [No. 141-iv]; and

    (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Sea Fishing]

[Mr Peter Luff].

2 Culture, Media and Sport,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [The Performing Rights Society and the Abolition of the Classical Music Subsidy]; to be printed [No. 468-i] [Mr Gerald Kaufman].

3 Environmental Audit,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environmental Audit Committee [The Greening Government Initiative]; to be printed [No. 426-v] [Mr John Horam].

4 Health,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [Department of Health Expenditure: The Private Finance Initiative]; to be printed [No. 469-i] [Mr David Hinchliffe].

5 International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Debt Relief]; to be printed [No. 470-i] [Mr Bowen Wells].

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1	Disability Rights Commission Bill [Lords],—Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody reported from Standing Committee F, That it had gone through the Disability Rights Commission Bill [Lords], and made Amendments thereunto.
	Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 108].
	Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 471].
2	Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:
	Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [Lords],—The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision for implementing Council Directive 96/61/EC and for otherwise preventing and controlling pollution; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
3	Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [Lords],—The Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [Lords] was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 107].
	Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 107-EN].
4	Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill (Allocation of Time),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the following provisions shall apply to the remaining proceedings on the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill—
Order of consideration
	1. The Bill, as amended, shall be further considered in the following order, namely amendments relating to Clauses 53 to 56; remaining New Clauses; amendments relating to Clauses 1 to 6, Schedule 1, Clauses 7 to 16, Schedule 2, Clause 17, Schedule 3, Clauses 18 and 19, Schedule 4, Clauses 20 to 29, Schedule 5, Clauses 30 to 44, Schedule 6, Clauses 45 to 50, Schedule 7, Clauses 51 and 52, Clauses 57 to 61, Schedule 8, Clauses 62 to 64, Schedule 9, Clause 65, Schedule 10, Clauses 66 to 70, Schedule 11 and Clause 71; New Schedules; amendments relating to Clauses 72 and 73, Schedule 12, Clauses 74 to 76, Schedule 13 and Clauses 77 to 79.
Timetable
	2.—(1) Proceedings on Consideration in respect of amendments relating to Clauses 53 to 56 shall be completed at today's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion four and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Motion.
	(2) The remaining proceedings on Consideration and Third Reading shall be completed at today's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion six hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Motion.
Questions to be put
	3.—(1) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 2(1) the Speaker shall forthwith put the following Questions (but no others)—
	(a) any Question already proposed from the Chair;
	(b) any Question necessary to bring to a decision a Question so proposed;
	(c) the Question that any remaining amendments to Clauses 53 to 56 standing in the name of a Minister of the Crown be made to the Bill;
	(d) any other Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded.
	(2) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 2(2) the Speaker shall forthwith put the following Questions (but no others)—
	(a) any Question already proposed from the Chair;
	(b) any Question necessary to bring to a decision a Question so proposed;
	(c) the Question that all remaining amendments standing in the name of a Minister of the Crown be made to the Bill;
	(d) any other Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded.
Miscellaneous
	4. Standing Order 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to proceedings on the Bill at today's sitting, and the proceedings shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to sittings of the House.
	5. Standing Order No. 82 (Business Committee) shall not apply to proceedings on the Bill.
	6. No Motion shall be made, except by a Minister of the Crown, to alter the order in which any proceedings on the Bill are taken or to recommit the Bill; and if a Minister makes any such Motion, the Question on the Motion shall be put forthwith.
	7. No dilatory Motion shall be made in relation to the Bill except by a Minister of the Crown; and if a Minister makes any such Motion, the Question on the Motion shall be put forthwith.
	8. The proceedings on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after they have been commenced; and Standing Order No. 15(1) shall apply to those proceedings.
	9. If at today's sitting a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (as that Standing Order has effect in accordance with the Order of the House [16th December 1998]) stands over to Four o'clock and proceedings on this Motion have begun before that time, the Motion for the Adjournment shall stand over until the conclusion of proceedings on the Bill.
	10. If the House is adjourned at today's sitting, or the sitting is suspended, before the conclusion of proceedings on the Bill, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order.—(Mr Secretary Darling.)
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Hanson, Jane Kennedy: 377.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Oliver Heald, Sir David Madel: 145.
	So the Question was agreed to.
5	Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.
	Amendment (No. 12) proposed to the Bill, in page 52, line 18, to leave out Clauses 53 and 54.—(Mr Roger Berry.)
	Question put, That the Amendment be made.
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Bill Michie, Mr Jim Cousins: 270.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Clive Betts: 310.
	And it being four and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion on Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill (Allocation of Time), the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day], put the Question he was directed to put at that time.
	Amendment (No. 31) made to the Bill.
	Another Clause (Duty as an employer to offer payroll deduction facility)—(Mr Quentin Davies)—brought up, and read the first time.
	Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time.
	And it being six hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion on Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill (Allocation of Time), the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair.
	Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tim Collins, Mr Oliver Heald: 128.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Clive Betts: 420.
	The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the remaining Questions he was directed to put to bring proceedings on Consideration and Third Reading to a conclusion.
	Question put, That all the remaining Amendments standing in the name of a Minister of the Crown be made to the Bill.
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Clive Betts: 381.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tim Collins, Mr Oliver Heald: 153.
	Amendments (Nos. 42 to 44, 28, 29, 53 to 62, 66, 67, 46, 32 to 39, 13, 15, 14, 63 to 65, 16, 17, 78, 92 to 105, 40, 91, 30, 47, 106, 9, 41, 48, 68, 69, 108, 49, 109, 111, 112, 18, 70, 71, 10, 11, 19, 51, 50, 72 to 77, 107, 52 and 110) accordingly made to the Bill.
	A Motion being made, That the Bill be now read the third time;
	Mr Secretary Darling, by Her Majesty's Command, acquainted the House, That Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Bill, gives her Consent, as far as Her Majesty's interest is concerned, That the House may do therein as it shall think fit.
	And the Question being put;
	The House divided.
	Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Robert Ainsworth: 360.
	Tellers for the Noes, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Stephen Day: 142.
	So the Question was agreed to.
	The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.
6	Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from residents of the constituency of Ashford against hunting with dogs was presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
7	Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Kevin Hughes.)
	And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-three minutes past Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 8.23 p.m.
*Betty Boothroyd* *Speaker*
Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1	Agriculture,—(1) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Avon Valley) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1368),
	(2) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Breckland) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1364),
	(3) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Clun) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1369),
	(4) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Exmoor) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1371),
	(5) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Lake District) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1363),
	(6) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (North Kent Marshes) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1366),
	(7) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (North Peak) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1367),
	(8) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (South Wessex Downs) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1370),
	(9) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Suffolk River Valleys) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1372),
	(10) Environmentally Sensitive Areas (Test Valley) Designation (Amendment) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1365),
	dated 13th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown].
2	Income Tax,—Non-resident Companies (General Insurance Business) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1408), dated 20th May 1999 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].
Other Papers:
3	Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill,—Report of the Attorney General on the Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [by Standing Order] [Mr Attorney General].
4	Intelligence Services,—Government Response to the Report of the Intelligence and Security Committee on Sierra Leone [by Command] [Cm. 4347] [The Prime Minister].
5	Northern Ireland (Emergency Procedures),—Report of the Independent Assessor of Military Complaints Procedures in Northern Ireland for 1998 [by Act] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam].
6	Video Recordings,—Report and Accounts of the British Board of Film Classification for 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
	Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Bill [Lords],—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Harry Cohen from Standing Committee E (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Hilton Dawson.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1	Agriculture,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Agriculture Committee [Sea Fishing]; to be printed [No. 141-iv]; and
	(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Sea Fishing]
	[Mr Peter Luff].
2	Culture, Media and Sport,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [The Performing Rights Society and the Abolition of the Classical Music Subsidy]; to be printed [No. 468-i] [Mr Gerald Kaufman].
3	Environmental Audit,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environmental Audit Committee [The Greening Government Initiative]; to be printed [No. 426-v] [Mr John Horam].
4	Health,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [Department of Health Expenditure: The Private Finance Initiative]; to be printed [No. 469-i] [Mr David Hinchliffe].
5	International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Debt Relief]; to be printed [No. 470-i] [Mr Bowen Wells].