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Mr. Moynihan : The 43 areas where the Department has granted derogations under article 9 of the EC drinking water directive or has applied to the European Commission under article 20 for a further period of time in order to comply with the aluminium standard are as follows :

Severn-Trent Water Authority

Parts of North Warwickshire, Coventry and Nuneaton

Parts of Charnwood, Hinckley and Bosworth

Parts of Stroud District Council area

Part of Montgomery

South West Water Authority

Parishes of Seaton and Beer

Areas supplied from Tottiford treatment works

Areas supplied from Prewley treatment works


College supply zone--Falmouth and Penrhyn

Watercombe supply zone

Higher parts of Penzance

Launceston and Callington areas

Bodmin and Wadebridge areas


Chagford Crediton hamlets

North West Water Authority

Parts of Sefton MB

Parts of Stockport MB

Parts of Bolton MB

Parts of Tameside MB

Parts of Oldham MB

Parts of Carlisle District

Parts of Eden District

Parts of Lancaster Borough

Parts of Ribble Valley District

Yorkshire Water Authority

South East Sheffield

Central Sheffield

Parts of West Barnsley (2 supplies)

South West Sheffield

Thornton supply area (West Bradford)

Area east of Thirsk


Parts of Dewsbury, Mirfield and Huddersfield

Part of north Bradford

Huddersfield, Holmbridge and Holmstyles area

Parts of Huddersfield

Rural area of Keighley

Reva supply area, Rombalds

Parts of Huddersfield

Rural areas west and south of Halifax (2 supplies)

Northern area of Halifax


Programmes of improvement are in hand to ensure that all supplies will comply with the aluminium standard in the directive as soon as possible.

Information as to how much each treatment plant exceeds the aluminium standard in the EC directive is not held centrally. However, in accordance with the terms of the directive the Department granted derogations (exemptions) where the aluminium is naturally occurring and applied to the Commission for delays where it is used in the treatment process up to limits which have been agreed with medical advisers.

The Department of Health's committee on medical aspects of the contamination of air, soil and water has concluded that it has not been established that a reduction in the aluminium intake of the general population would be likely to reduce the incidence of Alzheimer's disease. It considered that the associations between Alzheimer's disease and aluminium concentrations in drinking water, suggested by recent studies in Norway and the United Kingdom, were too tentative to justify changes in the use

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of aluminum sulphate in water treatment. Further research is important, particularly on the bioavailability of aluminium from all sources.

Rating Reform

Mr. Fraser : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give his latest estimate of the level of community charge in each London borough on 1 April 1990 in relation to the current average burden of rates per adult in each London borough, assuming no significant changes in levels of expenditure between the current time and 1 April 1990.

Mr. Gummer : I refer the hon. Member to the answer that I gave to the hon. Member for Southwark and Bermonsdey (Mr. Hughes) on 15 December 1988 Official Report , column 726 , regarding future community charge levels.


Mr. Redmond : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment, pursuant to his answer to the hon. Member for Don Valley on 1 December 1988, Official Report , column 365, if he will make a statement on the aspects of his Department's programmes for conserving the environment which go wider than what can be achieved through further legislation.

Mrs. Virginia Bottomley : Many of the initiatives that we are taking in the environmental field do not require further legislation. They include steps to combat air pollution by cleaning up emissions from power stations and motor vehicles ; implementing the programme of action arising from the second North sea conference ; investing in research into greenhouse gases and their effects ; and pressing both nationally and internationally for a reduction in the use of chlorofluorocarbons in order to protect the ozone layer.

Heritage Conservation

Mr. Strang : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what advice he has received from English Heritage or the Royal Commission on Ancient and Historical Monuments on the effects of the new agricultural policies being adopted by the Government in response to recent European Community directives, in relation to the future of archaeology in the upland and lowland regions of the United Kingdom.

Mrs. Virginia Bottomley : My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State receives advice from English Heritage regularly on matters affecting ancient monuments and archaeology. English Heritage themselves maintain contact with the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food on all such matters. We are aware of the opportunities under EC directives to take agricultural land out of production and that these can sometimes help indirectly to safeguard archaeological sites on agricultural land. Alternative land use as such is however only one approach. There is a growing awareness of the importance of archaeology in the countryside and English Heritage are closely in touch with countryside interests. A tangible result of their efforts are the positive management agreements into which English Heritage enter with land owners for the safeguarding of archaeological sites.

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We are also aware of the report published by the Royal Commission on the Historical Monuments of England and the Council for British Archaeology on the Archaeology of the Uplands in 1987. English Heritage recently published a similar document which explains some of the ways in which monuments in the countryside (including upland and lowland areas) can be preserved and maintained.

Ministerial Advisers (Salaries)

Mr. Cryer : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the total expenditure on salaries of ministerial advisers in his Department for each completed year since 1979 ; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Ridley : The following special advisers have been employed in my Department since 1979 :

T. Baron --Special Adviser to the Secretary of State for the Environment on housing issues. 1 October 1979 to 31 March 1980. Seconded from another employer.

Sir Robert Cooke --Special Adviser to the Secretary of State on the Palace of Westminster, the Parliamentary Estate and other Government Buildings. 1 December 1979 to 6 January 1987. Paid directly. E. Berman --Special Adviser to the Secretary of State on inner city matters. 4 October 1982 to 4 July 1983. Paid directly.

C. G. Mockler --Special (political) Adviser to the Secretary of State for the Environment. 18 July 1983 to 30 April 1985. Paid directly.

A. Tyrie --Special (political) Adviser to the Secretary of State for the Environment. 29 April 1985 to 3 September 1985. Paid directly.

P. R. C. Davis --Special (political) Adviser to the Minister for Local Government. 1 October 1984 to 3 September 1985.

Special (political) Adviser to the Secretary of State for the Environment. 4 September 1985 to 31 January 1986. Paid directly. A. R. Kerpel --Special (political) Adviser to the Secretary of State for the Environment. 3 February 1986 to 21 May 1986. Paid directly.

D. A. Coleman --Special (political) Adviser to the Hon. William Waldegrave and Mr. John Patten. 16 September 1985 to 12 June 1987. Paid directly.

P. J. Rock --Special (political) Adviser to Mr. M. Howard and the Hon. William Waldegrave from 13 July 1987 to 25 July 1988. Special (political) Adviser to Mr. M. Howard and the Right Hon. J. Selwyn Gummer. 26 July 1988 to date. Paid directly.

Mrs. K. C. Ramsay --Special (political) Adviser to the Secretary of State for the Environment. 22 May 1986 to 17 May 1987. 15 June 1987 to date. Paid directly.

It is not the practice to give information which would reveal the salaries of special advisers as they are individually negotiated in relation to previous outside earnings and are therefore confidential.

Sporting Events (Tickets)

Mr. Alton : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the sale of black market tickets at major sporting events.

Mr. Moynihan : I understand the hon. Member's concern about the sale of black market tickets. In particular, I am concerned about the damage that such ticket sales for major football matches can do to the efforts of the police and clubs to segregate rival fans effectively. However, it is not yet clear that a practicable and enforceable legal answer to this problem can be found. It way well be that what is needed is tighter control by the organisers of sporting events over the distribution of tickets and the imposition of sanctions against those found abusing those controls. Following a report from the chief

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trading standards officer of Liverpool, difficulties over the allocation of tickets for last year's FA cup final have been referred to the Football Association by the Office of Fair Trading. I understand the OFT are awaiting a detailed response from the FA.

Ex-GLC Housing (Somerset)

Mr. David Nicholson : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will inquire of the Housing Corporation the reasons why it recommended that ownerships of the former Greater London Council seaside and country homes in Taunton should pass from the North British housing association to the Knightstone housing association of Weston-super-Mare sites, then to the Redland housing association of Bristol.

Mr. Trippier : Any proposal by NBHA to dispose of any of the seaside and country homes would require the Housing Corporation's consent.

House Conditions (Liverpool)

Mr. Alton : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment how many homes in Liverpool are without basic amenities ; and what percentage (a) of the total housing stock, and (b) the private rented sector fall into this category.

Mr. Trippier : Local authorities report estimates of the number of dwellings lacking one or more basic amenities in their annual housing investment programme returns. These do not distinguish between rented and owner-occupied dwellings in the private sector. A copy of Liverpool's 1988 return (HIP1) is in the Library.

Mr. Alton : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment how many house improvement grants were issued in Liverpool over the past year.

Mr. Trippier : Numbers of renovation grants paid to private owners and tenants by local authority area, for the first half of 1988, appear in table 4 of "Local Housing Statistics" No. 87. A copy is available in the Library. A total of 323 grants were reported paid in the September quarter of 1988.

Local Authority Finance

Mr. Vaz : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has received any representations from Leicester city council indicating dissatisfaction as to the amount of central Government grants to the council.

Mrs. Virginia Bottomley : I am not aware of any recent representations relating to grants for which DOE is responsible.


Mr. Kirkwood : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he now proposes to reduce the amount of

chlorofluorocarbons in aerosol propellants ; and if he will make a statement.

Mrs. Virginia Bottomley : The British aerosol industry expects to phase out the non-essential use of chlorofluorocarbons as propellants on a voluntary basis by the end of 1989.

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Property Services Agency (Funding)

Mr. Baldry : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he proposes to make any changes to the cash limit on the Property Services Agency's civil vote and also to the running cost limit for 1988-89.

Mr. Ridley : Yes. Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary Supplementary Estimate, the cash limit for class XX, vote 19, will be increased by £71.152 million from £2,000 to £71.154 million. The increases are needed to finance the acquisition of freehold office accommodation and the internal restructuring of the agency ahead of fully commercial operation in 1993. The increase will be charged to the Reserve and therefore will not add to the planned total of public expenditure.

In addition, PSA's civil running cost limit is being increased by a net £3.599 million to £143.678 million to cover expenditure on internal restructuring. This increase includes an offsetting reduction of £1,000 to meet corresponding increase in the running cost limit of the Office of the Minister for the Civil Service (class XX, vote 1) for the transfer of costs for recruitment under the direct entry grade 7 competition 1988.

Departmental Staff (Child Care)

Ms. Richardson : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what child care provision his Department provides for pre-school age children of his Department's employees ; what child care provision, for school holiday or after school care, is provided for employees' children aged five years and over ; and what plans there are for increasing provision in the next five years ; and how these are to be funded.

Mr. Ridley : The experimental child care scheme first held at the Cardington residential training centre in August 1987 is being repeated this year. The Department is considering what scope there is for further provision without continuing subsidy.

New Towns

Mr. Butler : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a copy of the recent 7(1) submissions from Warrington and Runcorn development corporation affecting Appleton Cross and Grappenhall Heys available to the hon. Member for Warrington, South.

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Mr. Trippier [holding answer 30 January 1989] : I have not yet received section 7(1) submissions under the New Towns Act 1981 from Warrington and Runcorn development corporation relating to the areas to which the hon. Member refers.

Mr. Butler : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make it his policy to reject all 7(1) submissions from new towns in the last nine months of their existence.

Mr. Trippier [holding answer 30 January 1989] : No. The Government's objectives for the remaining new town development corporations require section 7(1) powers under the New Towns Act 1981 to be exercised until the corporations' proposed wind-up dates.


Sir Michael McNair-Wilson : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what research is being financed by his Department into aluminium in water and in man-made milk products ; and whether any guidance on safe limits has been issued.

Mr. Howard [holding answer 30 January 1989] : My Department has not funded research specifically into aluminium in water although the water industry is carrying out research into the use of aluminium as a coagulant.

Guidance on safe limits has not been issued. However, the EC drinking water directive sets a standard of 200 micrograms of aluminium per litre in drinking water. Responsibility for research into aluminium in milk products lies with my right hon. Friend the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.


Mr. Goodlad : To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the Southern water authority is fully meeting its obligations under European Community directives ; what expenditure is required to remedy any deficiencies ; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Howard [holding answer 30 January 1989] : In general, Southern water authority meets its obligations under the EC directives relating to water quality.

Not all the identified bathing waters comply at present with the bathing water directive and we are discussing with the authority its investment plans to bring the remainder up to the required standard.


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