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Vaughan, Sir Gerard

Walker, A. Cecil (Belfast N)

Walters, Sir Dennis

Whitney, Ray

Widdecombe, Ann

Tellers for the Ayes :

Sir Rhodes Boyson and

Mr. James Pawsey.

NOES

Abbott, Ms Diane

Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE)

Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke)

Bermingham, Gerald

Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E)

Carrington, Matthew

Cohen, Harry

Corbett, Robin

Corbyn, Jeremy

Cox, Tom

Cryer, Bob

Darling, Alistair

Dixon, Don

Fraser, John

Godman, Dr Norman A.

Gorman, Mrs Teresa

Heffer, Eric S.

Hughes, Simon (Southwark)

Jones, Ieuan (Ynys Mo n)

Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald

Lamond, James

Livsey, Richard

Meale, Alan

Mullin, Chris

Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon

Porter, Barry (Wirral S)

Richardson, Jo

Ruddock, Joan

Sedgemore, Brian

Shore, Rt Hon Peter

Skinner, Dennis

Smith, C. (Isl'ton & F'bury)

Stern, Michael

Wareing, Robert N.

Welsh, Andrew (Angus E)

Wise, Mrs Audrey

Wray, Jimmy

Tellers for the Noes :

Mr. Andrew F. Bennett and

Mr. Gary Waller.

Mr. Deputy Speaker : Order. Since fewer than 100 Members voted in the majority the Question is not decided in the affirmative. It being after half-past Two o'clock, the debate stood adjourned. Debate to be resumed on Friday 21 April.

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Private Members' Bills

HEARING AID COUNCIL (AMENDMENT) BILL

Order for Second reading read.

Hon. Members : Object.

Second Reading deferred till Friday 17 February.

COALMINING SUBSIDENCE (DAMAGE, ARBITRATION, PREVENTION AND PUBLIC AWARENESS) BILL

Order for Second reading read.

Hon. Members : Object.

Second Reading deferred till Friday 17 February.

INDECENT DISPLAYS (NEWSPAPERS AND WORKPLACES) BILL Order for Second Reading read.

Hon. Members : Object.

Mr. Deputy Speaker : Second Reading, what day?

Ms. Jo Richardson (Barking) : With the permission of the sponsor, Friday 7 April.

Mr. Dennis Skinner (Bolsover) : Who objected to that?

DEFINITIVE MAP MODIFICATION BILL

Order for Second Reading read.

Hon. Members : Object.

Second Reading deferred till Friday 17 February.

Mr. Deputy Speaker : Second Reading, what day?

Sir Rhodes Boyson (Brent, North) : With the permission of the sponsor, Friday 17 February.

HEDGEROWS BILL

Order for Second Reading read.

Hon. Members : Object.

Mr. Alan Meale (Mansfield) : With the permission of the sponsor, Friday 17 February.

RIDERS OF EQUINE ANIMALS (WEARING OF PROTECTIVE HEADGEAR) BILL Order for Second Reading read.

Hon. Members : Object.

Second reading deferred till Friday 17 February.

CERVICAL CANCER (TESTING AND TREATMENT) BILL Order for Second Reading read.

Hon. Members : Object.

Second Reading deferred till Friday 17 February.

Mr. Jeremy Corbyn (Islington, North) : On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I did not hear anyone shout "object" to the excellent Bill of my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, Provan (Mr. Wray). I heard some muttering from the hon. Member for Watford (Mr. Garel-Jones). Can you confirm that he made a late objection, or was there no objection?

Mr. Deputy Speaker : I heard the distinct sound of an objection from an unidentified part of the House.

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Mr. Dennis Skinner (Bolsover) : Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. There certainly was muttering from the corner alluded to by my hon. Friend the Member for Islington, North (Mr. Corbyn). It may have been the Whip, the hon. Member for Watford (Mr. Garel-Jones), or Conservative Members behind him who have been engaged in political skullduggery to do with the Abortion (Amendment) Bill and who are sitting in the places usually reserved for Ministers. What if the Whip--

Mr. Deputy Speaker : Order. I have dealt with that : I heard the word "object".

PROTECTION OF PRIVACY BILL

Order read for resuming adjourned debate on Second Reading [27 January].

Hon. Members : Object.

Debate further adjourned till Friday 17 February.

SOCIAL SERVICES

Ordered,

That Mr. Andrew Smith be discharged from the Social Services Committee and Mr. Ian McCartney be added to the Committee-- [Sir Marcus Fox, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.]

EMPLOYMENT

Ordered,

That Mr. Lewis Stevens be discharged from the Employment Committee and Mr. Tim Janman be added to the Committee-- [Sir Marcus Fox, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.]

EDUCATION, SCIENCE AND ARTS

Ordered,

That Mrs. Maureen Hicks be discharged from the Education, Science and Arts Committee and Mr. Jacques Arnold be added to the Committee-- [Sir Marcus Fox, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.]

Mr. Ieuan Wyn Jones (Ynys Mo n) : On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. If an hon. Member has an interest to declare, should he not declare it before shouting "object"?

Mr. Deputy Speaker : The House knows that hon. Members are obliged to record their interests in the Register of Interests. I have no power to require them to comply with the hon. Gentleman's suggestion.

Mr. Barry Porter (Wirral, South) : Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and following the remarks

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of the hon. Member for Ynys Mo n (Mr. Jones), I do have an interest. Sadly, I was unable to declare it or to outline my objections to his Bill in debate. The hon. Gentleman knows as well as I that there is some conflict between the industry and the idea that he wants to promote--but that is not irrecoverable--

Mr. Deputy Speaker : Order. I cannot allow the hon. Gentleman to make the speech that he might have made had we been debating the Bill. For him to enter upon a contentious matter like that would place an obligation on the Chair to allow contrary points of view. I cannot allow that to happen.

Mr. Ieuan Wyn Jones : Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I seek your guidance. If an hon. Member has an interest is he allowed to object?

Mr. Deputy Speaker : There is no Standing Order or convention of the House that requires an hon. Member to declare any such interest.

Mr. Corbyn : Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker--

Mr. Deputy Speaker : I do not think that the point of order has been made clear.

Mr. Corbyn : Two hon. Members have raised points of order, from which it seems that there is a great deal of unfinished business and unstated remarks on matters that have started. Are you prepared to allow the hon. Member concerned to express his interest in this matter.

Several Hon. Members rose --

Mr. Deputy Speaker : Order. I thought I had made it clear that was just what I was not prepared to do, nor could I allow it.

Mr. Gerald Bermingham (St. Helens, South) : On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Perhaps you could assist newcomers like me by saying how we are to know, in the heat of debate, what an interest is if we are not allowed to be told?

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