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Points of Order

Mr. Speaker : Private notice question. Mr. Neil Kinnock. Mr. Neil Kinnock (Islwyn) rose --

Mr. Jim Sillars (Glasgow, Govan) : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker : I will take any points of order after the private notice question.

Mr. Sillars : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker : Order. Will the hon. Gentleman resume his seat? He knows perfectly well that I take points of order after questions, and I have called a private notice question.

Mr. Kinnock rose --

Mr. Sillars : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker : Order. The hon. Gentleman knows very well that points of order are taken at their proper time, after private notice questions. I repeat that I have called a private notice question. Mr. Neil Kinnock.

Mr. Kinnock : May I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer a question--

Mr. Sillars : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker : If the hon. Gentleman persists, I shall have to take action that I would very much regret having to take.

Mr. Sillars rose --

Mr. Speaker : Order. I am on my feet.

Mr. Sillars : My point of order relates to this question.

Mr. Speaker : Order. I say to the hon. Gentleman for the final time that I will take his point of order after the private notice question.

Mr. Sillars : My point of order relates to the question.

Mr. Speaker : The hon. Gentleman must resume his seat.

Mr. Sillars indicated dissent.

Mr. Speaker : I give the hon. Gentleman one more chance. Mr. Sillars rose --

Mr. Speaker : The hon. Gentleman will leave the Chamber for the remainder of today's sitting.

Mr. Sillars indicated dissent.

Mr. Speaker : Is the hon. Gentleman refusing to do that? Mr. Sillars indicated dissent.

Mr. Speaker : If the hon. Gentleman refuses, I shall be forced to name him. I give the hon. Gentleman one more chance to leave the Chamber.

Mr. Sillars indicated dissent.

Mr. Speaker : I name Mr. James Sillars.

Question put,


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That Mr. James Sillars be suspended from the service of the House.-- [Mr. Wakeham.]

The House proceeded to a Division :--

Mr. Patrick Cormack (Staffordshire, South) (seated and covered) : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. In view of the time that has been wasted, if there should be occasion for a similar Division, will you use the powers vested in you under Standing Orders to allow us to vote by standing in our places?

Mr. Speaker : That is hypothetical at the moment.

The House having divided : Ayes 376, Noes 16.

Division No. 120] [3.33 pm

AYES

Adley, Robert

Alison, Rt Hon Michael

Alton, David

Amess, David

Amos, Alan

Arbuthnot, James

Archer, Rt Hon Peter

Armstrong, Hilary

Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove)

Ashby, David

Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy

Aspinwall, Jack

Atkins, Robert

Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley)

Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N)

Baldry, Tony

Banks, Robert (Harrogate)

Barnes, Mrs Rosie (Greenwich)

Batiste, Spencer

Beith, A. J.

Bell, Stuart

Bevan, David Gilroy

Biffen, Rt Hon John

Blackburn, Dr John G.

Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter

Boateng, Paul

Bonsor, Sir Nicholas

Boscawen, Hon Robert

Boswell, Tim

Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich)

Bowis, John

Boyes, Roland

Brandon-Bravo, Martin

Bray, Dr Jeremy

Brazier, Julian

Brooke, Rt Hon Peter

Brown, Gordon (D'mline E)

Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's)

Browne, John (Winchester)

Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon Alick

Buck, Sir Antony

Burt, Alistair

Butcher, John

Butler, Chris

Butterfill, John

Callaghan, Jim

Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE)

Campbell-Savours, D. N.

Carlile, Alex (Mont'g)

Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)

Carrington, Matthew

Carttiss, Michael

Cash, William

Chapman, Sydney

Clark, Dr David (S Shields)

Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford)

Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S)

Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe)

Clarke, Tom (Monklands W)

Colvin, Michael

Conway, Derek

Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest)

Coombs, Simon (Swindon)

Cope, Rt Hon John

Cormack, Patrick

Cran, James

Crowther, Stan

Cummings, John

Darling, Alistair

Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g)

Davis, David (Boothferry)

Day, Stephen

Dewar, Donald

Dixon, Don

Dobson, Frank

Doran, Frank

Dorrell, Stephen

Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James

Dover, Den

Dunn, Bob

Dunwoody, Hon Mrs Gwyneth

Durant, Tony

Dykes, Hugh

Eggar, Tim

Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd)

Evans, John (St Helens N)

Evennett, David

Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E)

Fairbairn, Sir Nicholas

Fallon, Michael

Fatchett, Derek

Favell, Tony

Fearn, Ronald

Fenner, Dame Peggy

Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)

Field, Frank (Birkenhead)

Fishburn, John Dudley

Fisher, Mark

Flynn, Paul

Fookes, Dame Janet

Foot, Rt Hon Michael

Forman, Nigel

Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)

Forth, Eric

Foster, Derek

Foulkes, George

Fowler, Rt Hon Norman

Fox, Sir Marcus

Franks, Cecil

Freeman, Roger

French, Douglas

Fry, Peter

Fyfe, Maria

Galbraith, Sam

Gardiner, George

Garrett, John (Norwich South)

Garrett, Ted (Wallsend)

Gill, Christopher

Gilmour, Rt Hon Sir Ian

Glyn, Dr Alan

Golding, Mrs Llin

Goodhart, Sir Philip

Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles

Gorman, Mrs Teresa


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