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Meyer, Sir AnthonyMiller, Sir Hal
Mills, Iain
Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Mitchell, Sir David
Montgomery, Sir Fergus
Moore, Rt Hon John
Morris, M (N'hampton S)
Morrison, Sir Charles
Morrison, Rt Hon P (Chester)
Moss, Malcolm
Moynihan, Hon Colin
Neale, Gerrard
Nelson, Anthony
Neubert, Michael
Newton, Rt Hon Tony
Nicholls, Patrick
Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley
Page, Richard
Paice, James
Patnick, Irvine
Patten, Chris (Bath)
Patten, John (Oxford W)
Pawsey, James
Porter, Barry (Wirral S)
Portillo, Michael
Powell, William (Corby)
Price, Sir David
Raffan, Keith
Raison, Rt Hon Timothy
Rathbone, Tim
Redwood, John
Riddick, Graham
Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas
Rossi, Sir Hugh
Rost, Peter
Rowe, Andrew
Rumbold, Mrs Angela
Ryder, Richard
Sackville, Hon Tom
Sainsbury, Hon Tim
Sayeed, Jonathan
Scott, Nicholas
Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)
Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')
Shelton, Sir William
Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)
Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)
Shersby, Michael
Sims, Roger
Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W)
Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
Squire, Robin
Stanbrook, Ivor
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Steen, Anthony
Stern, Michael
Stevens, Lewis
Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)
Stradling Thomas, Sir John
Sumberg, David
Summerson, Hugo
Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman
Thurnham, Peter
Tredinnick, David
Trotter, Neville
Wakeham, Rt Hon John
Walden, George
Walker, Bill (T'side North)
Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Wheeler, John
Widdecombe, Ann
Yeo, Tim
Younger, Rt Hon George
Tellers for the Noes :
Mr. David Heathcoat-Amory
and
Mr. John Mark Taylor.
Question accordingly negatived.
Amendments made : No. 17, in page 16, line 29, after 19', insert
and ( Additional terms of supply )'.
No. 18, in page 16, line 47, after 19', insert
and ( Additional terms of supply )'.--[ Mr. Michael Spicer. ]
Amendments made : No. 19, in page 17, line 7, after to', insert 19, ( Additional terms of supply ) and 20'.
No. 20, in page 17, line 16, after to', insert
19, ( Additional terms of supply ) and 20'.
No. 21, in page 17, line 18, leave out from section' to may' in line 23 and insert
the Director may give directions as to the circumstances in which, and the terms on which, the supplier is to continue to give the supply pending the determination of the dispute.
(3) Where any dispute arising under section 19(1) above fails to be determined under this section, the Director may give directions as to the security (if any) to be given pending the determination of the dispute.
(3A) Directions under subsection (2) or (3) above.'.-- [Mr. Michael Spicer.]
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Mr. Michael Spicer : I beg to move amendment No. 22, in page 18, line 3, leave out
has contravened and is likely again'
and insert is likely'.
Mr. Deputy Speaker (Mr. Harold Walker) : With this it will be convenient to take Government amendments Nos 23 to 25, Government amendment No. 27 and amendment No. 191, in clause 46 page 35, line 45, at end add--
(e) include a financial statement surveying costs for each area board during that year.'.
Mr. Spicer : I merely want to say, by way of proposing the amendments, that there was some discussion about these issues in Committee. I believe that the hon. Member for Cardiff, West (Mr. Morgan) in particular argued that the director general should have powers to take action if he has clear reasons for believing that action contrary to licence conditions is likely to be taken. If the amendments are acceptable to the House that point will be met. The director general will be able to take action if he has legitimate reasons for believing that action contrary to licence conditions is likely to be taken.
Mr. Tony Blair (Sedgefield) : The purpose of amendment No. 191 is to ensure that, when the director general makes a report to the Secretary of State--as under clause 46 of the Bill he will be obliged to do--on his activities during the year, he includes a financial statement surveying the costs for each area board during that year. It is entirely appropriate on this day, when we will be debating a series of amendments concerning the rights and needs of consumers, that we ask what price the consumers will be required to pay for this legislation. At the end of the day--no matter how many discussions that people who are fond of debating the industry structure may wish to have--what the ordinary consumer will ask is, "Will privatisation improve the service and will it bring down bills?"
The boast of the Secretary of State about this legislation was that this privatisation is somehow different from gas and British Telecom because there is no monopoly. The criticism that was implicitly acknowledged by him was that gas and British Telecom had gone wrong as privatisations because there was a monopoly element in relation to consumers. However, for the vast majority of consumers, that is exactly what has happened here. The consumer will deal with the same electricity board as now, with no ability to transfer custom if he is dissatisfied with the service, and with no opportunity to hold the electricity board publicly accountable, because it will no longer be publicly owned.
4.45 pm
If we have learnt anything from privatisation, it is surely that, when one turns a public monopoly into a private monopoly, one combines in the worst way possible public service and private profit. One has the need to use without the right to choose. That will exactly describe the plight of Britain's 22 million electricity consumers following privatisation.
When we examine what the Bill includes for consumers, we must point out first that there will be no choice in relation to the area board used and that, of course, the grid system will be a monopoly owned by those area boards.
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