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Dr. Thomas : To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many low- level sorties will be carried out during exercises Highland Cardinal and OSEX 16.

Mr. Neubert : A maximum of 40 low-level sorties daily are planned for Exercise Highland Cardinal and a maximum of 120 daily for Exercise OSEX 16.

Nuclear Tests

Mr. Ashley : To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if, pursuant to his answer to the right hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, South of 16 May, Official Report, column 140, he will outline in the Official Report the considerable differences in the situations pertaining to British and United States of America nuclear tests.

Mr. Sainsbury : The temporal and special variations of the potential radiation hazards that may arise from nuclear tests depend, in a complex manner, on various factors, including device type and disposition, topography of the location, meteorological conditions and the test objectives. The doses of radiation received by individuals depend on the position and movement of individuals relative to the hazards, making due allowance for any protective measures taken. It is thus inevitable that the situations pertaining to United Kingdom and United States were considerably different.

Radioactive Waste

Mr. Flynn : To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make it his policy to seek support of the Governments of the United States and France to introduce an amendment to the London dumping convention to allow the sea dumping of military radioactive waste arising, including submarine hulls.

Mr Sainsbury [holding answer 4 May 1989] : The London dumping convention allows the disposal at sea of low and intermediate-level radioactive waste, in accordance with internationally agreed guidelines and procedures, although a non-binding moratorium has been in place since 1983. The Government have decided not to resume sea-disposal of drummed radioactive waste, including waste of military origin. None the less, the Government intend to keep open this option for large items arising from decommissioning operations, although they have taken no decisions about how redundant nuclear submarines will be disposed of.

NORTHERN IRELAND

Income Support

Mr. Chris Smith : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many children were in families on income support in 1988-89.


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Mr. Needham : The appropriate analysis of the income support caseload has not yet been completed.I shall let the hon. Member have the information as soon as it is available

Hospital Beds

Mr. Robin Cook : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list for each year since 1979 (a) the number of acute beds available and (b) the number of non-acute beds available in each health board ; and if he will give the total for each year.

Mr. Needham : The information is set out in the table :


Year             |Northern Ireland|Eastern Board   |Northern Board  |Southern Board  |Western Board                    

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Total acute beds available                                                                                             

1979             |7,173           |4,198           |1,049           |998             |928                              

1980             |7,167           |4,222           |1,056           |974             |915                              

1981             |7,074           |4,199           |1,013           |963             |899                              

1982<1>          |-               |-               |-               |-               |-                                

1983             |7,036           |4,206           |979             |973             |878                              

1984             |6,973           |4,140           |1,000           |977             |856                              

1985             |6,997           |4,090           |1,051           |1,001           |855                              

1986             |6,506           |3,652           |1,023           |984             |847                              

1987             |6,221           |3,520           |989             |895             |817                              

                                                                                                                       

Total non-acute beds                                                                                                   

1979             |9,953           |4,532           |1,406           |1,663           |2,352                            

1980             |9,894           |4,547           |1,417           |1,632           |2,298                            

1981             |9,942           |4,605           |1,472           |1,622           |2,243                            

1982<1>          |-               |-               |-               |-               |-                                

1983             |9,943           |4,710           |1,377           |1,633           |2,223                            

1984             |9,744           |4,485           |1,444           |1,630           |2,185                            

1985             |9,601           |4,354           |1,457           |1,608           |2,182                            

1986             |9,457           |4,345           |1,434           |1,572           |2,106                            

1987             |9,191           |4,208           |1,384           |1,537           |2,062                            

                                                                                                                       

Total beds available                                                                                                   

1979             |17,126          |8,730           |2,433           |2,661           |3,280                            

1980             |17,061          |8,769           |2,473           |2,606           |3,213                            

1981             |17,016          |8,804           |2,485           |2,585           |3,142                            

1982<1>          |-               |-               |-               |-               |-                                

1983             |16,979          |8,916           |2,356           |2,606           |3,101                            

1984             |16,717          |8,625           |2,444           |2,607           |3,041                            

1985             |16,598          |8,444           |2,508           |2,609           |3,037                            

1986             |15,963          |7,997           |2,457           |2,556           |2,953                            

1987             |15,412          |7,728           |2,373           |2,432           |2,879                            

<1> Not available due to industrial action.                                                                            

1988 figures are not yet available.                                                                                    

Environmental Protection

Mr. Jim Marshall : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, pursuant to his statement in the First Standing Committee on Statutory Instruments, Official Report, 15 February, column 16, concerning the Nature Conservation and Amenity Lands (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 1988, whether written consents


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under that order from the Department of the Environment (Northern Ireland) to owners or occupiers of areas of special scientific interest for the carrying out of notifiable operations on such land will specify the exact nature of the consented operation, its limits in time and area, and such other conditions as may be deemed appropriate.

Mr. Needham : Written consents issued to owners or occupiers of land with within areas of special scientific interest under the Nature Conservation and Amenity Lands (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 1989 will specify the exact nature of the consented operations and, where relevant, any limits in time and area. Consents will also specify such other conditions as may be deemed appropriate. There will be no difference in the form of consents issued under this order from those issued under the Nature Conservation and Amenity Lands (Northern Ireland) Order 1985.

Mr. Jim Marshall : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, pursuant to his statement in the First Standing Committee on Statutory Instruments, Official Report, 15 February, column 16, whether he has now considered further the matter of progress in designing special protection areas in Northern Ireland under EC directive 79/409 on the conservation of wild birds, and if he will make a statement on measures to speed up the process.

Mr. Needham : The Department of the Environment for Northern Ireland has re-examined the procedures for the designation of special protection areas under the terms of EC directive 79/409 on the conservation of wild birds. While priority is being given to the declaration of areas of special scientific interest under the Nature Conservation and Amenity Lands (Northern Ireland) Order 1985, where ASSIs are also potential SPAs, the Department will proceed towards SPA designation as soon as is practicable after such ASSI declarations have been confirmed.

It is expected that a small number of SPAs will be designated under the above arrangements during the next two years.

Social Security Payments

Mr. Hume : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what figures are available to indicate the distribution of single payments and caseloads at social security offices during the period 16 December 1986 to 28 July 1987.

Mr. Needham [holding answer 16 May 1989] : The information is set out in the table.


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Single payments and supplementary benefit caseloads for the period 18 December 1986 to 28 July 1987                                                              

                        Single payments                               Supplementary benefit                                                                      

                                               caseloads at<1>                                                                                                   

Social Security office |Number                |£                     |10 February 1987      |8 May 1987            |28 July 1987                                 

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Andersonstown          |7,504                 |899,549.64            |7,775                 |7,600                 |7,754                                        

Antrim                 |9,163                 |419,947.62            |5,597                 |5,448                 |5,487                                        

Armagh                 |3,426                 |307,000.02            |4,941                 |4,814                 |5,078                                        

Ballymena              |3,984                 |356,515.64            |6,263                 |5,971                 |6,547                                        

Ballymoney             |3,635                 |255,552.61            |4,363                 |4,552                 |4,358                                        

Ballynahinch           |476                   |34,043.00             |1,418                 |1,463                 |1,502                                        

Banbridge              |1,961                 |145,245.38            |3,378                 |3,268                 |3,358                                        

Bangor                 |2,279                 |155,179.84            |4,520                 |4,519                 |4,848                                        

Carrickfergus          |2,520                 |152,719.20            |3,075                 |3,021                 |3,078                                        

Coleraine              |5,982                 |409,362.68            |6,220                 |5,973                 |6,066                                        

Cookstown              |2,260                 |250,337.70            |3,559                 |3,444                 |3,586                                        

Corporation Street     |9,486                 |1,051,663.53          |12,359                |12,159                |12,596                                       

Downpatrick            |3,086                 |155,807.16            |2,300                 |2,458                 |2,797                                        

Dungannon              |4,821                 |386,850.35            |5,965                 |5,873                 |6,137                                        

Enniskillen            |2,895                 |261,338.69            |8,266                 |8,290                 |8,490                                        

Falls                  |9,884                 |727,109.01            |9,485                 |9,034                 |9,390                                        

Holywood Road          |6,928                 |453,436.27            |9,018                 |8,783                 |9,286                                        

Kilkeel                |676                   |51,275.48             |1,437                 |1,440                 |1,480                                        

Knockbreda             |2,760                 |225,072.52            |6,357                 |6,223                 |6,657                                        

Larne                  |3,052                 |151,624.30            |2,888                 |2,799                 |2,965                                        

Limavady               |2,084                 |127,109.04            |3,202                 |3,136                 |3,227                                        

Lisburn                |7,108                 |728,054.03            |6,540                 |6,628                 |6,694                                        

Londonderry            |11,470                |1,118,808.56          |14,786                |14,818                |15,901                                       

Lurgan                 |5,854                 |856,702.31            |5,806                 |5,688                 |6,100                                        

Magherafelt            |3,027                 |425,225.75            |5,080                 |5,175                 |5,289                                        

Newcastle              |1,339                 |67,989.42             |1,888                 |1,861                 |1,941                                        

Newry                  |5,010                 |669,516.30            |9,600                 |9,457                 |9,748                                        

Newtownabbey           |4,840                 |247,413.38            |5,774                 |5,415                 |5,941                                        

Newtownards            |1,702                 |123,481.10            |3,840                 |3,986                 |3,910                                        

Omagh                  |3,783                 |378,413.86            |5,577                 |5,530                 |6,039                                        

Portadown              |2,268                 |194,414.67            |3,837                 |3,728                 |3,992                                        

Shaftesbury Squar      |6,465                 |565,737.83            |6,662                 |6,896                 |8,152                                        

Shankill               |4,220                 |365,981.69            |5,367                 |5,209                 |5,328                                        

Strabane               |5,193                 |381,830.67            |6,045                 |6,121                 |6,039                                        

                       |-------               |-------               |-------               |-------               |-------                                      

Total                  |151,141               |13,100,309.25         |193,183               |190,780               |199,761                                      

<1>During the period in question there were three counts of the caseload as shown.                                                                               

Mr. Hume : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what information is available to indicate the total numbers in receipt of (a) mobility allowance (b) attendance allowance and (c) invalid care allowance and to indicate the total number of claims received for each allowance in each of the past five years indicating the number of claims from each year which were successful.

Mr. Needham [holding answer 16 May 1989] : The total numbers of people in Northern Ireland in receipt of mobility allowance, attendance allowance and invalid care allowance at the latest date for which information is available are 13,530, 29,394 and 6,174 respectively. The total numbers of claims received for each allowance in each of the last five years and the total numbers of claims allowed in those years are as follows :


Year            |Claims received|Claims allowed                 

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Mobility Allowance                                              

1984            |4,544          |2,055                          

1985            |5,017          |2,330                          

1986            |5,427          |2,959                          

1987            |6,382          |2,838                          

1988            |6,278          |2,866                          

                                                                

Attendance Allowance                                            

1984            |12,043         |8,697                          

1985            |12,285         |8,186                          

1986            |12,409         |9,078                          

1987            |13,951         |8,651                          

1988            |15,709         |10,852                         

                                                                

Invalid Care                                                    

1984            |208            |183                            

1985            |391            |156                            

1986            |5,072          |1,264                          

1987            |2,995          |3,528                          

1988            |1,873          |1,849                          

Mr. Hume : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what information is available to indicate the age profile of those receiving (a) mobility allowance (b) attendance allowance and (c) invalidity care allowance.


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Mr. Needham [holding answer 16 May 1989] : The latest available information is as follows :


(a) Mobility Allowance  

 Age at 31 December     

1988                    

        |Number         

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Under 5 |8              

5-9     |365            

10-14   |351            

15-19   |472            

20-24   |493            

25-29   |465            

30-34   |528            

35-39   |580            

40-44   |757            

45-49   |942            

50-54   |1,232          

55-59   |1,760          

60-64   |2,354          

65+     |2,615          

        |-------        

Total   |12,922         


(b) Attendance Allowance                                                

Age at 29 December 1988 |Number                                         

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2-4                     |577                                            

5-9                     |1,246                                          

10-14                   |1,032                                          

15                      |190                                            

16-19                   |776                                            

20-24                   |910                                            

25-29                   |812                                            

30-34                   |695                                            

35-39                   |716                                            

40-44                   |694                                            

45-49                   |798                                            

50-54                   |901                                            

55-59                   |1,168                                          

60-64                   |1,499                                          

65-69                   |2,147                                          

70-74                   |2,524                                          

75-79                   |3,444                                          

80-84                   |3,828                                          

85-89                   |3,039                                          

90-94                   |1,663                                          

95+                     |735                                            

                        |---                                            

Total                   |29,394                                         


(c) Invalid Care Allowance                                              

Age at 23 February 1989 |Number                                         

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16-20                   |46                                             

21-25                   |162                                            

26-30                   |427                                            

31-35                   |628                                            

36-40                   |805                                            

41-45                   |1,061                                          

46-50                   |969                                            

51-55                   |890                                            

56-60                   |881                                            

61-65                   |269                                            

66-70                   |24                                             

70+                     |12                                             

                        |---                                            

Total                   |6,174                                          

Attendance Allowance Board

Mr. Hume : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what information is available to indicate the number of adjudication officer decisions reviewed by the Attendance Allowance Board in each of the past five years, the number of the board's own decisions which were further reviewed and the outcome of such reviews.

Mr. Needham [holding answer 17 May 1989] : The numbers of decisions reviewed by the Attendance Allowance Board in each of the last five years and the outcomes of the reviews are as follows :


Year                     |Decisions Reviewed      |Claims allowed on Review                         

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1984                     |1,663                   |899                                              

1985                     |1,665                   |866                                              

1986                     |2,079                   |830                                              

1987                     |2,982                   |1,219                                            

1988                     |3,055                   |1,487                                            

The number of appeals on a point of law heard by the social security commissioner against decisions of the Attendance Allowance Board in each of the last five years and the outcomes of such appeals are as follows :


Year            |Appeals Heard  |Appeals Allowed                

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1984            |6              |3                              

1985            |16             |5                              

1986            |22             |7                              

1987            |33             |8                              

1988            |71             |17                             

Mobility Allowance

Mr. Hume : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what information is available to indicate the number of adjudication officer decisions in respect of mobility allowance which were reviewed on appeal by the medical board in each of the past four years, the outcome


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of such reviews, the number of such decisions further appealed to the medical appeal tribunal and the outcome of such appeals.

Mr. Needham [holding answer 17 May 1989] : The numbers of appeals heard by medical boards and medical appeal tribunals in respect of claims to mobility allowance in Northern Ireland in each of the last four years and the outcome of such appeals are as follows :


Year            |Appeals heard  |Appeals allowed                

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Appeals to medical boards                                       

1985            |733            |188                            

1986            |822            |186                            

1987            |697            |135                            

1988            |987            |210                            

                                                                

Appeals to medical appeal tribunals                             

1985            |226            |83                             

1986            |273            |75                             

1987            |277            |97                             

1988            |292            |117                            

Royal Ulster Constabulary

Mr. Shersby : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many members of the Royal Ulster Constabulary have lost their lives in the course of their duty in Northern Ireland during each of the past five years for which figures are available.

Mr. Ian Stewart [holding answer 18 May 1989] : The information is as follows :


Year               |Number of Officers                   

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1984               |10                                   

1985               |23                                   

1987               |17                                   

1988               |7                                    

These figures include members of the RUC and RUC Reserve.

Medical Cards

Mr. William Ross : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many medical cards were issued in Northern Ireland in each of the five weeks beginning 16 April, 23 April and 30 April, 7 May and 14 May and the five corresponding weeks in 1988.

Mr. Needham [holding answer 22 May 1989] : The information is as follows :


Week CommenNumber of Medical

           Cards issued     

          |1989 |1988       

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16 April  |1,372|527        

23 April  |785  |516        

30 April  |845  |555        

 7 May    |1,789|840        

14 May<1> |1,148|786        

<1> Up to and including 18  

May.                        

Vehicles

Mr. Henderson : To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many vehicles and at what value were purchased by (a) his Department and (b) other


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public sector agencies for which he is responsible, in 1988 ; and how many of these vehicles were British made within the definition of British as set out by the Department of Trade and Industry in its arrangement on content with the European Community.


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Mr. Ian Stewart [holding answer 17 April 1989] : The information available is as follows :


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Department Vehicles purchased bVehicles purchased bNumber of British m

           department          public sector agencivehicles<1>        

          |Number   |Value<2> |Number   |Value<2>                     

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DANI      |74       |918,705  |-        |-        |52                 

DOE       |134      |1,691,242|135      |2,992,866|237                

DENI<3>   |1        |11,000   |134      |2,626,734|-                  

DHSS<4>   |183      |2,067,550|-        |-        |118                

DED       |3        |22,902   |213      |2,120,527|161                

<1> This list is based on the definition employed by the Department   

of Trade and Industry for statistical purposes, under which a vehicle 

is classified as United Kingdom-produced if the United Kingdom        

context exceeds 50 per cent. of the ex-works value.                   

<2>Includes VAT.                                                      

<3> Department of Education was unable to establish number of British 

made vehicles.                                                        

<4> Department of Health and Social Services could provide only a     

total figure for both Departments and the public sector.              

AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD

Fishing Industry

Mr. Salmond : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his assessment of the current financial position of the fishing industry ; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Donald Thompson : After a series of good years the United Kingdom fishing industry is on a strong financial footing. Although landings so far this year are down compared with 1988, their average value remains high. And fuel prices, a major cost item for most fishermen, have fallen substantially over the past five years.

Mr. Salmond : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the level of third country fish imports since the beginning of the current year ; and what assessment he has made of possible breaches of the reference pricing system.

Mr. Donald Thompson : Imports of fresh, chilled and frozen fish from countries outside the European Community in the first three months of 1989 were 47,552 tonnes at a value of £59 million. A small number of consignments have been below the reference price but none has been significant enough to trigger Community action .

Mr. Salmond : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what will be the areas of priority in the fishing industry which he will seek to raise at the Council of Ministers on 21 June ; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Donald Thompson : There are a number of issues of concern to the industry which I expect to be discussed by the Council and I will take a view on what else I need to raise when I see the draft agenda.

Mr. Salmond : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on tonnage and horsepower in the United Kingdom fishing fleet and on how these relate to the targets accepted by Her Majesty's Government under the multi-annual guidance programme.

Mr. Donald Thompson : The size of the United Kingdom fishing fleet, as at 1 January 1989, was 174,774 gross


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registered tonnage (GRT) and 890,995 kilowatts (kw) (1,211,753 horsepower). Under our multi-annual guidance programme the United Kingdom is obliged to reduce fleet capacity to 161,231 GRT and 831, 708 kw by the end of this year, to 150,336 GRT and 785,340 kw by the end of 1990, and to 141,620 GRT and 748,245 kw by the end of the programme on 31 December 1991.

Mr. Salmond : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will reconsider the decision to grant an extension of registration and licensing facilities to the flags-of-convenience vessels currently under legal debate ; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Donald Thompson : There has been no decision to grant an extension of registration to any flag-of-convenience vessels. With effect from 1 April 1989 any vessels which failed to satisfy the new registration rules for fishing vessels under part II of the Merchant Shipping Act 1988 have been removed from the register, and cannot lawfully fish against United Kingdom quotas.

Provided they do not fish in the meantime, the owners of those vessels party to the legal challenge to the new registration rules (in the Factortame case) have until 1 October 1989 to transfer their licences upon the sale of the vessels to genuine British owners who meet the new registration rules.

Mr. Salmond : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further consideration he has given to the introduction of a scheme of decommissioning of the fishing fleet under European Community regulation No. 4028/86.

Mr. Donald Thompson : I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave on Monday 22 May to the hon. Member for Greenock and Port Glasgow (Dr. Godman), at column 372.

Mr. Salmond : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on licensing policy for the United Kingdom fishing fleet.

Mr. Donald Thompson : Access to United Kingdom quota species continues to be governed by the restrictive licensing scheme first introduced in 1984 and subsequently amended on several occasions. Fisheries Departments are considering whether further amendments might be


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desirable in the light of the wide-ranging and diverse responses from the fishing industry to our consultation exercise last year.

Brogdale Experimental Horticulture Station

Mr. Straw : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why the Brogdale experimental horticulture station is to be closed ; and what arrangements will be made for the care and maintenance of the national fruit variety collection there.

Mr. Donald Thompson : The proposal to close Brogdale experimental horticulture station, which was announced to the House on 21 March, stems from the withdrawal of public funding from near market R and D. Final decisions on the closure of Brogdale will not be taken until consultations with industry have been concluded. We intend however to ensure that the national fruit collection is preserved, and we are considering what arrangements should be made in the event that the station is closed.

Mr. Straw : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the total cost to public funds of (a) the Brogdale experimental horticulture station and (b) the national fruit variety collection there, for each of the years 1979 to date in (i) current prices and (ii) constant prices.

Mr. Donald Thompson : The information relating to the gross full economic cost of Brogdale experimental husbandry station from 1981-82 is as follows :


Gross full economic cost (£ thousands)                                          

Year                |(a) current prices |(b) constant prices                    

                                        |(1987-88 base)                         

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1981-82             |502                |672                                    

1982-83             |656                |820                                    

1983-84             |739                |882                                    

1984-85             |785                |892                                    

1985-86             |917                |984                                    

1986-87             |876                |911                                    

1987-88             |881                |881                                    

Important elements of the overall cost of maintaining the national fruit collection are undertaken in common with support to other work undertaken at Brogdale EHS. Separate NFC costings have not been collected throughout the period in question, but on the basis of manpower required to maintain the NFC it is estimated that, as part of Brogdale EHS, the NFC accounted for some 7 per cent. of Brogdale's total costs in 1987-88, equivalent to some £60,000. It is not thought likely that this relative cost has been significantly different in earlier years.

Cash Limits

Mr. Gill : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether it is intended to change the cash and running cost limits on any Department vote for which he has responsibility.

Mr. MacGregor : Yes. Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary revised Estimate the cash limit for class IV, vote 2, (Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce ; administration) will be reduced by £1,284,000 from £39,509,000 to £38,225,000, and that for class IV,


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vote 5 (Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food ; departmental research, advisory services and administration) will be reduced by £72,000 from £257,014,000 to £256,942,000. The running cost limit for class IV, vote 2 will also be reduced by £76,000 from £19,957,000 to £19,881,000 and that for class IV, vote 5 will be reduced by £72,000 from £262,458,000 to £262,386,000.

The reductions in the running cost limits on votes 2 and 5 reflect the transfer of provision to the Scottish Office administration vote (class XVI, vote 21) for processing data from England and Wales in connection with the beef special premium scheme. The remainder of the reduction to the cash limit of £1,208,000 on vote 2 arises on IBAP's agency payments to DANI in respect of the beef variable premium scheme which has ended.

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy

Mr. Ron Davies : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will place in the Library copies of the letters he received on 22 June 1988 and 15 November 1988 from Sir Richard Southwood which contained the interim recommendations of his committee and Government action on bovine spongiform encephalopathy.

Mr. Donald Thompson [holding answer 22 May 1989] : Yes, I have arranged for copies of the letters to be placed in the Library of the House today.

Meat Products (Animal Brains)

Mr. Ron Davies : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether any statutory restrictions exist on the use of animal brains in the manufacture of human foodstuffs.

Mr. Donald Thompson [holding answer 22 May 1989] : The Meat Products and Spreadable Fish Products Regulations 1984 prohibit the use of brains in the manufacture of uncooked meat products. I shall shortly be issuing proposals for legislation which would prohibit the sale of baby foods containing brains and other specified offal. I understand through trade sources that brains are not used in baby foods.

Pollution

Mr. Speller : To ask the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now ban the discharge into waters off the north Devon coast of untreated sewage and chemical waste.

Mr. Donald Thompson : The discharge of waste by pipeline is regulated by water authorities. Water authorities' own discharges of sewage by pipeline are regulated by Her Majesty's inspectorate of pollution on behalf of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment.

My Ministry licenses deposits from vessels. There are no licences for deposit off the north Devon coast of chemical waste. Most of the sewage sludge which is licensed has been treated. The disposal site is periodically monitored and no significant adverse effects have been identified.


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HEALTH

NHS Reform

8. Mr. Simon Hughes : To ask the Secretary of State for Health what he estimates will be the average capital charge to self-governing hospital trusts in London.

Mr. Kenneth Clarke : Self-governing trusts will not pay capital charges, but they will be given a financial regime similar to the capital charging system for district managed hospitals. The precise details are still being finalised and I expect to give further details within the next few weeks.

12. Mr. Pawsey : To ask the Secretary of State for Health if he will make a statement on the number and location of those hospitals considering self-governing status.

Mr. Kenneth Clarke : Regional health authorities have been asked to send expressions of interest to the Department by 31 May. But I understand that well over 100 expressions of interest have been received throughout the country.

13. Mr. Knapman : To ask the Secretary of State for Health what representations he has received on the White Paper proposals for medical audit.

36. Mr. Stevens : To ask the Secretary of State for Health what representations he has received on the proposals for medical audit outlined in the White Paper "Working for Patients".

60. Mr. Paice : To ask the Secretary of State for Health if he will make a statement on the proposals in the White Paper "Working for Patients" on medical audit.

Mr. Mellor : Our proposals on medical audit have been widely welcomed by doctors. The White Paper made it clear that there would be discussions with the medical profession and first meetings have already been held in a constructive manner.

23. Mr. Hague : To ask the Secretary of State for Health whether National Health Service self-governing hospitals will have to retain emergency services.

Mr. Kenneth Clarke : Yes, unless it would be better for these services to be provided elsewhere.

24. Mr. Adley : To ask the Secretary of State for Health what steps he has taken to ensure that copies of the White Paper "Working for Patients" are available to doctors.

Mr. Mellor : Copies of "Working for Patients" were sent to health authorities and family practitioner committees to explain the proposals to doctors in their management role. Copies of the three working papers directly relevant to the family doctor service were sent to all GPs. Individual copies of the White Paper are available from Her Majesty's Stationery Office, price £8.80, or by order through public libraries.

29. Mr. Knox : To ask the Secretary of State for Health how many representations he has received from members of the public about his White Paper "Working for Patients".

Mr. Mellor : In excess of 4,000 letters.


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31. Mr. Day : To ask the Secretary of State for Health what representations he has received on the proposals to allow hospitals to become self governing National Health Service hospitals.

47. Mr. Ian Taylor : To ask the Secretary of State for Health what representations he has received on his proposals to allow hospitals to become self governing.

Mr. Mellor : We have received a large number of letters from members of the public and many responses from representational bodies on the White Paper proposals including those relating to enabling hospitals to become self governing within the NHS. Many people find the proposals attractive.

32. Mr. Janman : To ask the Secretary of State for Health if he will make a statement on the consequences of allowing general practitioners' practices to hold their own budgets.

53. Mrs. Gorman : To ask the Secretary of State for Health how the proposals to allow general practitioners' practices to hold their own budgets will affect patient care.

Mr. Kenneth Clarke : Practice budgets will offer general medical practitioners new opportunities to improve the quality and standard of service to their patients. GPs with budgets will have control over large sums of taxpayers' money which they will be able to use as they judge best for the provision of care to their patients. This means that GPs will, for the first time, be able to back their referral decisions for those conditions covered by the budget with taxpayers' money to provide the chosen hospital with finance for the treatment. As a result hospitals will be encouraged to be more responsive to the needs of individual GPs and their patients, and GPs in the practice budget scheme will have a much greater role than at present in influencing the provision of hospital services. This can only be of benefit to patients and to the NHS as a whole.

33. Mr. Roy Hughes : To ask the Secretary of State for Health what representations he has received from professional bodies and trades unions concerning the review of the National Health Service.

Mr. Mellor : A good many expressing many different views.

34. Mr. Andy Stewart : To ask the Secretary of State for Health what will be the effect on doctors who choose to operate a practice budget, as proposed in the White Paper "Working for Patients" of an overspend in their budget.

Mr. Mellor : There is of course no question of patients not receiving the treatment they need as a result of a budget overspend. Larger practices which volunteer to hold a practice budget will be allowed to overspend by up to 5 per cent. a year on the basis that a corresponding reduction will be made the following year. Where the overspend is due to the changed cirumstances of a practice such as an increase in the number of patients or in their relative need for services, the practice may ask for a review of its budget. If a practice overspends by more than 5 per cent., or persistently overspends at a lower level, the family practitioner committee will initiate a thorough audit. An overspend greater than 5 per cent. for two years in succession may lead to the practice losing the right to hold its own budget.


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