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Munitions (Dumping at Sea)

Dr. David Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if his Department will list the weapons material dumped in Hurd Deep in the English channel; [613]

Mr. Soames: No chemical warfare munitions were disposed of at these sites. Details of sea disposals of CW munitions were provided in my previous answer of 20 October 1995, Official Report, col 387. In the immediate post war period approximately 25,000 tons of British and 50,000 tons of captured German conventional munitions were dumped at Hurd Deep but no record of subsequent dumping operations at this site until its use was discontinued in 1973 appear to have survived. Surviving records which have been identified to date show that between 1973 and 1985 up to 2,000 tons of conventional munitions were disposed of annually at the deep water dump site situated approximately 400 miles south west of Lands End, off the continental shelf. From 1985 until October 1992 when the sea dumping of munitions was terminated the annual disposals were as follows, 904 tons; 1,882 tons; 1,565 tons; 3,244 tons; 1,544 tons; 1,775 tons; 1,093 tons and 8,764 tons.

Dr. Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what is his assessment of the legality of the 1976 emergency dump in Beaufort's dyke in relation to the Oslo convention for the prevention of marine pollution by dumping from ships and aircraft; [612]

Mr. Soames: The emergency MOD disposal in 1976 involved two cases of heavily corroded 40mm shells. The emergency dumping of certain waste materials subject to the provisions of the Oslo convention is permissible if the waste in question cannot be disposed of on land without "unacceptable danger or damage". Given their recorded condition, the disposal of these munition items on land would have constituted such an "unacceptable danger".

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Dr. Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what plans his Department has to monitor the chemical weapons and munitions dumping sites in the sea surrounding the British Isles. [610]

Mr. Soames: My Department has no plans to monitor disused munition dump sites.

Dr. Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what was the date of the last sea-dumping by his Department of surplus ordnance off the British Isles. [446]

Mr. Soames: My Department ceased all sea-dumping of conventional ammunition and explosive stocks in October 1992 in line with the OSPAR convention which came into force on 1 January 1993.

Ships for Sale

Dr. David Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will list all the (a) surface ships and (b) submarines currently on the market for sale by his Department. [462]

Mr. Arbuthnot: (a) Surface ships on the market for sale


Various lighters and other small unnamed vessels (b) Submarines on the market for sale



    Upholder Class Submarines
    HMS Upholder
    HMS Unseen
    HMS Unicorn
    HMS Ursula

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West Freugh Range

Dr. David Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if he will list the explosions, together with their dates, which have occurred at his Department's West Freugh military range in the last two years; [214]

Mr. Arbuthnot: These matters are for the Defence Evaluation and Research Agency. I have asked the chief executive, DERA to write to the hon. Member.

Letter from John Chisholm to Dr. David Clark, dated 20 November 1995:


Attack Helicopter

Dr. David Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what is the (a) current total estimated cost and in service date and (b) original total estimated cost and in service date of the Army's attack helicopter. [458]

Mr. Arbuthnot: The current total estimated cost of the attack helicopter programme is £2.5 billion and, at the same price base, is about £120 million more than the estimated total programme cost when the competitive tendering and assessment phase was approved in 1991. The preferred in service date at that time was December 1997 but the later date of December 1998 was included in the invitation to tender. Following the conclusion of the competition, the in service date is currently estimated as 2000. This remains subject to confirmation in the continuing contract negotiations.

Dr. Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what assessment he has made of the progress made on the development of the Army's attack helicopter. [445]

Mr. Arbuthnot: I receive regular updates on the progress of major programmes such as the attack helicopter. Following the selection of the WAH64 aircraft to meet the Army's requirement for an attack helicopter, contractual negotiations are continuing with Westland

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Helicopters Ltd. Development of the McDonnell Douglas AH64D Longbow Apache for the US Army, on which the United Kingdom's aircraft will be based, has been completed and the production phase has been approved.

Departmental Running Costs

Mr. David Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what percentage saving of total running costs his Department expects to save in the next two financial years. [457]

Mr. Soames: The MOD's operating costs plans are set out in the "Statement on the Defence Estimates 1995", table 13, page 137.

F22 Aircraft

Dr. David Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what discussions his Department has had with representatives from Lockheed Martin concerning the purchase of F22 aircraft. [464]

Mr. Arbuthnot: None.

Dr. Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration he has given to the purchase of American F22 aircraft; and if he will make a statement. [466]

Mr. Arbuthnot: We are not considering the purchase of American F22 aircraft.

Dr. Clark: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the reports received from (a) his Departmental staff or (b) his independent advisers concerning the purchase leasing of F22 aircraft from America. [465]

Mr. Arbuthnot: My right hon. Friend has received no such reports.

Low Flying

Mr. Kirkwood: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what is the number of complaints received from the borders region about tactical low flying sorties over the area over the past five years. [443]

Mr. Soames: The numbers of complaints and inquiries about military low flying received by my Department over the past five years from low flying areas 16 and 20T, which cover the borders area, are as follows:



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