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19. Mr. Pope: To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he next plans to meet representatives of the Nigerian Government to discuss the situation in Nigeria. [872]
Mr. Hanley: We have no such plans.
Mr. Pope: Does the Minister accept that, if the British Government's arms and visa sanctions against the brutal Nigerian regime had been even remotely successful, there would have been no need to come back and announce further measures? Will he give the House an assurance that the visa controls currently in place regarding Nigeria will, at the very least, ensure that members of the brutal, vicious Nigerian Government are not allowed to enter or re-enter the United Kingdom?
Mr. Hanley: Under the present immigration rules, it has not been possible to cancel or revoke existing visas, but the Home Office has been notified of the EU decision and all members of the Nigerian provisional ruling and federal ruling council will now be refused entry to the United Kingdom even if they hold valid multiple entry visas issued before the new EU restrictions were agreed. I am sure that that comes as a comfort to the hon. Gentleman and other hon. Members.
20. Mr. Soley: To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what assessment he has made of the progress being made in negotiations with China on Hong Kong. [874]
Mr. Hanley: We have reached several important agreements with the Chinese in recent months which are
very much in Hong Kong's interest, but much work remains to be done to ensure a successful transition for Hong Kong, which I believe all of us, including the Chinese, want.
Mr. Soley: Is the Minister satisfied that the Chinese Government and the leaders of the business community on both sides of the border recognise that, if the elected legislature were removed in 1997 and replaced only with members who had the approval of Beijing, enormous damage would be done to political and economic confidence in Hong Kong?
Mr. Hanley: I agree with the hon. Gentleman that it is vital to maintain confidence in Hong Kong. Members of the business community have impressed on me the fact that confidence is vital for their continued interests.
We are doing everything that we can to ensure that the business community feels comfortable with what we are doing. Indeed, the business community welcomes the continuing agreements that we are making with the Chinese. The Chinese, for their part, recognise that Hong Kong is responsible for about 25 per cent. of their gross domestic product. Hong Kong and the business links between the two countries are important to China as well as to our continuing interest in the region.
I therefore agree with the hon. Gentleman.
22. Mr. Hawkins:
To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what assistance Her Majesty's Government are giving to the peace process in the middle east. [876]
Mr. Hanley:
The £83 million of aid to the Palestinians has already been mentioned.
On his recent visit, my hon. and learned Friend the Foreign Secretary encouraged the Palestinians and Israelis to maintain progress on the Palestinian track. He also urged Syria and the Israelis to press forward in their negotiations, and encouraged all the countries of the region to support the peace process--as did I during my recent visit to the Gulf.
Mr. Hawkins:
I thank my right hon. Friend for that helpful answer. Does he agree that it is crucial to keep in touch with all the leaders of the most moderate Arab states to ensure that they are encouraged to continue their dialogue in all the tracks of the continuing peace process with the Israeli Government?
Mr. Hanley:
I strongly agree with my hon. Friend. Indeed, I believe that the reaction of the Arab nations to the tragic assassination of Yitzhak Rabin is one of the developments that give us the most hope that the peace process will now accelerate. We hope that Mr. Rabin's tragic death will not have been in vain.
Ordered,
The Prime Minister (Mr. John Major):
With permission, Madam Speaker, I will make a statement about Northern Ireland.
Yesterday evening, the Irish Prime Minister and I met at Downing street to launch a new initiative in the Northern Ireland peace process. A copy of our joint communique has been placed in the Library of the House.
In the 15 months since the first of the two ceasefires, there has been a dramatic improvement in the daily life of people in Northern Ireland. They have enjoyed the freedom to go about their daily business without fear of terrorist attacks. Many new jobs have been created. Much new investment has arrived. New opportunities have opened for people of all ages.
We have responded positively--following advice from the Chief Constable and the GOC--to the much reduced threat to security. By the end of this year, half the Army's emergency or roulement battalions will have left Northern Ireland. Security infrastructure has been dismantled. Remission rates for scheduled offenders have been returned to their pre-1989 levels.
Although we have a ceasefire, however, we are still far from a comprehensive political settlement. To work towards that, we must establish a negotiating process that is open to all democratic parties, and embraces all democratic parties. That aim underlies the twin-track initiative that we have now launched with the Irish Government. The first of the two tracks in the joint communique will involve invitations to the parties to intensive preparatory talks.
These are not substantive negotiations on Northern Ireland's constitutional future; they are designed to prepare for such negotiations in the future.
There are many issues to be resolved if substantive negotiations are to take place successfully. The preparatory talks will consider the best structure and format for all-party negotiations, and how those negotiations can address all the relevant relationships in an interlocking three-stranded process. Several of the parties in Northern Ireland have suggested that an elected body could play an important part in all-party negotiations. Other parties disagree. As the communique makes clear, this is an idea that will be discussed in the preparatory talks.
As I have indicated, meeting the requirements of paragraph 10 of the Downing street declaration will be an essential condition for any party claiming a seat at the all-party negotiations. Not all the parties yet do so. That too will be a valid subject for discussion in the preparatory talks.
The format for those talks is intentionally flexible and permissive. We shall build on the exchanges and bilateral contacts that have already taken place. We shall treat each party equally. Exchanges can be bilateral or--where the parties so wish, and where it will further the objectives of the preparatory talks--they could be multilateral.
This new round of preparatory talks is an opportunity for each of the parties in Northern Ireland to express its view, in whatever format it chooses, on the best way of moving the political process forward. It is an opportunity
for them to work together with one or other or both Governments, according to their wishes. It is an opportunity to generate fresh momentum. It threatens no one, no interest and no party. I hope that all the parties, each in their own way, will take advantage of this opportunity. The objective of moving towards a just and comprehensive settlement will be of benefit to all.
Let me turn now to the decommissioning of the weapons and explosives held in large number by paramilitary organisations linked to political parties in Northern Ireland. Before the Downing street declaration and the ceasefire, we recognised that the need to address this question was one of the practical consequences that had to follow the ending of violence. In a democratic society, political parties cannot be linked to private armies. In a society where parties are committed exclusively to peaceful methods, there can be no need and no justification for holding illegal weapons and illegal explosives. In a democracy, parties and Governments cannot be expected to negotiate under the duress of an implicit threat of a return to violence.
For that reason, we have throughout this year sought to engage the representatives of both Sinn Fein and the loyalist paramilitaries in an exploratory dialogue on how their weapons will be taken out of commission. In order to achieve more progress in that area, we have now agreed with the Irish Government to establish an international body to provide an independent assessment of the decommissioning issue and have given it specific tasks. It will consist of three members under the chairmanship of Senator George Mitchell from the United States. They will act in a personal capacity and on an advisory basis.
The body has been asked to identify and advise on a suitable and acceptable method for full and verifiable decommissioning and also to report whether there is a clear commitment on the part of those in possession of such arms to work constructively to achieve that. We expect it to invite relevant parties to submit their analysis of matters relevant to the decommissioning issue. The Governments are not setting limits to the scope of the submissions that may be made to it. It will be for the international body, in reaching conclusions within its remit, to consider such evidence on its merits.
We will not be asking the international body to question the Government's position on what has become known as the third Washington criterion. It has not been established to make recommendations on when decommissioning should start. That is a matter for governmental decision; and, as I have indicated, it is properly a matter for discussion in the preparatory talks. To avoid any doubt, let me stress that the Government stand by the three criteria on decommissioning, which my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland set out in Washington earlier this year. We cannot see a way of securing the necessary confidence to bring all parties to the negotiating table without a start being made to the decommissioning of illegal arms.
This is not a matter of dogma; it is a matter of practicality. It goes without saying that we, like the Irish Government, will consider constructively any practical suggestions that could help bring all parties into negotiations on the basis of the Downing street declaration.
It is no secret that yesterday's agreement between the two Governments required long and difficult negotiations. The British and Irish Governments agree on the need for
disarmament by the paramilitary organisations, but we do have an acknowledged difference of opinion about its timing. We have decided not to allow that difference of opinion to stand in the way of forward movement along these twin tracks. That is a measure of our determination to continue working together in the future as we have done in the past.
That Mr. Ray Powell be discharged from the Committee of Selection and Mr. George Mudie be added to the Committee.--
[Mr. Conway.]
3.30 pm
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