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Mr. Brazier rose--

Madam Deputy Speaker: Order. The hon. Gentleman has already spoken.

Mr. Brazier: With the leave of the House,

Hon. Members: No.

Madam Deputy Speaker: I am sorry. I know that the hon. Member for Canterbury (Mr. Brazier) was seeking to intervene, but, as the hon. Member for Brent, South (Mr. Boateng) had already sat down, the situation cannot arise.

Mr. Streeter: With the leave of the House, I have noted carefully what the hon. Member for Brent, South (Mr. Boateng) has said. He is wrong.

Mr. Brazier: Will my hon. Friend give way?

Mr. Streeter: Of course.

Mr. Brazier: I am most grateful to my hon. Friend for allowing me to intervene. The hon. Member for Brent, South (Mr. Boateng) has effectively made a case for abridging the total divorce process. I ask the House to think what possible logic there is in having a total divorce process that takes 18 months, but, if people want, in setting it all in concrete in every case after three months.

Mr. Streeter: My hon. Friend makes a good point. The amendments are modest and sensible and I urge my colleagues to support them.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment proposed: No. 120, in page 46, line 14, at end insert--


'(1A) No financial provision order, other than an interim order, may be made under section 22A above before the end of the first three months of the period for reflection and consideration, unless--
(a) it is an order in the terms applied for to which the other party agrees; or
(b) it takes effect, in accordance with subsection (1), before the making of a divorce order or separation order, and the court is satisfied--
(i) that there are exceptional circumstances, and
(ii) that it would be just and reasonable for the order to be made earlier.'.--[Mr. Brazier.]

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Question put, That the amendment be made:--

The House divided: Ayes 169, Noes 223.

Division No. 149
[11.25 pm


AYES


Alexander, Richard
Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby)
Allason, Rupert (Torbay)
Alton, David
Amess, David
Arbuthnot, James
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham)
Atkins, Rt Hon Robert
Atkinson, David (Bour'mouth E)
Atkinson, Peter (Hexham)
Baker, Nicholas (North Dorset)
Banks, Matthew (Southport)
Banks, Robert (Harrogate)
Bates, Michael
Bellingham, Henry
Bendall, Vivian
Biffen, Rt Hon John
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas
Booth, Hartley
Boswell, Tim
Bowden, Sir Andrew
Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes
Brandreth, Gyles
Brazier, Julian
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter
Bruce, Ian (South Dorset)
Burns, Simon
Burt, Alistair
Butcher, John
Carrington, Matthew
Chapman, Sir Sydney
Clappison, James
Coe, Sebastian
Congdon, David
Conway, Derek
Coombs, Simon (Swindon)
Cope, Rt Hon Sir John
Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire)
Day, Stephen
Deva, Nirj Joseph
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James
Dover, Den
Duncan, Alan
Duncan Smith, Iain
Dunn, Bob
Durant, Sir Anthony
Dykes, Hugh
Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter
Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley)
Evans, Roger (Monmouth)
Evennett, David
Fabricant, Michael
Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)
Forsyth, Rt Hon Michael (Stirling)
Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring)
Freeman, Rt Hon Roger
Gallie, Phil
Garnier, Edward
Gill, Christopher
Gillan, Cheryl
Goodlad, Rt Hon Alastair
Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles
Gorman, Mrs Teresa
Gorst, Sir John
Greenway, Harry (Ealing N)
Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N)
Hague, Rt Hon William
Hampson, Dr Keith
Hargreaves, Andrew
Hawkins, Nick
Hawksley, Warren
Heathcoat-Amory, Rt Hon David
Hendry, Charles
Hill, Sir James (Southampton Test)
Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter
Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford)
Hughes, Robert G (Harrow W)
Hughes, Simon (Southwark)
Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W)
Hunter, Andrew
Jackson, Robert (Wantage)
Jenkin, Bernard
Jessel, Toby
Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
Jopling, Rt Hon Michael
Knapman, Roger
Kynoch, George (Kincardine)
Lamont, Rt Hon Norman
Leigh, Edward
Lennox-Boyd, Sir Mark
Lidington, David
Lord, Michael
Luff, Peter
Maclean, Rt Hon David
McLoughlin, Patrick
McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick
Maitland, Lady Olga
Malone, Gerald
Marlow, Tony
Merchant, Piers
Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Monro, Rt Hon Sir Hector
Montgomery, Sir Fergus
Nelson, Anthony
Neubert, Sir Michael
Newton, Rt Hon Tony
Nicholls, Patrick
Norris, Steve
Paice, James
Paisley, The Reverend Ian
Patnick, Sir Irvine
Patten, Rt Hon John
Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Pawsey, James
Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth
Porter, Barry (Wirral S)
Porter, David (Waveney)
Redwood, Rt Hon John
Renton, Rt Hon Tim
Riddick, Graham
Robathan, Andrew
Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn
Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S)
Robinson, Mark (Somerton)
Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne)
Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent)
Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela
Sackville, Tom
Sainsbury, Rt Hon Sir Timothy
Scott, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Shaw, David (Dover)
Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian
Shepherd, Sir Colin (Hereford)
Sims, Sir Roger
Skeet, Sir Trevor
Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)
Soames, Nicholas
Spencer, Sir Derek
Sproat, Iain
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Stephen, Michael
Stewart, Allan
Streeter, Gary
Sweeney, Walter
Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E)
Thomason, Roy
Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V)
Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
Thornton, Sir Malcolm
Townend, John (Bridlington)
Tredinnick, David
Trend, Michael
Twinn, Dr Ian
Vaughan, Sir Gerard
Viggers, Peter
Waldegrave, Rt Hon William
Walden, George
Walker, Bill (N Tayside)
Ward, John
Waterson, Nigel
Watts, John
Wheeler, Rt Hon Sir John
Whittingdale, John
Widdecombe, Ann
Wiggin, Sir Jerry
Wilkinson, John
Wood, Timothy
Yeo, Tim

Tellers for the Ayes:


Dr. Robert Spink and
Mr. Michael Brown.


NOES


Ainger, Nick
Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey)
Allen, Graham
Armstrong, Hilary
Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy
Ashton, Joe
Barron, Kevin
Batiste, Spencer
Battle, John
Bayley, Hugh
Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret
Bennett, Andrew F
Benton, Joe
Bermingham, Gerald
Berry, Roger
Boateng, Paul
Bottomley, Peter (Eltham)
Bradley, Keith
Brown, N. (N'c'tle Tyne E)
Burden, Richard
Butterfill, John
Byers, Stephen
Caborn, Richard
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge)
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE)
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V)
Campbell-Savours, D N
Carlile, Alexander (Montgomery)
Chidgey, David
Chisholm, Malcolm
Churchill, Mr
Clapham, Michael
Clark, Dr David (South Shields)
Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ru'clif)
Clarke, Tom (Monklands W)
Clelland, David
Clwyd, Mrs Ann
Coffey, Ann
Connarty, Michael
Corbett, Robin
Corbyn, Jeremy
Cousins, Jim
Cox, Tom
Cummings, John
Cunliffe, Lawrence
Cunningham, Rt Hon Dr John
Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon)
Dalyell, Tam
Davies, Chris (L'Boro & S'worth)
Davies, Ron (Caerphilly)
Davis, David (Boothferry)
Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'l)
Denham, John
Dewar, Donald
Donohoe, Brian H
Dowd, Jim
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth
Evans, Jonathan (Brecon)
Fatchett, Derek
Field, Frank (Birkenhead)
Fishburn, Dudley
Fisher, Mark
Flynn, Paul
Forman, Nigel
Forth, Eric
Foster, Don (Bath)
Foulkes, George
Fyfe, Maria
Galbraith, Sam
Galloway, George
Gapes, Mike
Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan
Gerrard, Neil
Godman, Dr Norman A
Godsiff, Roger
Golding, Mrs Llin
Graham, Thomas
Grant, Bernie (Tottenham)
Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Grocott, Bruce
Gunnell, John
Hain, Peter
Hanson, David
Hardy, Peter
Harman, Ms Harriet
Harvey, Nick
Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy
Hayes, Jerry
Heald, Oliver
Heppell, John
Hill, Keith (Streatham)
Hinchliffe, David
Hodge, Margaret
Hoey, Kate
Hogg, Norman (Cumbernauld)
Hood, Jimmy
Hoon, Geoffrey
Howard, Rt Hon Michael
Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A)
Howarth, George (Knowsley North)
Howells, Dr Kim (Pontypridd)
Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N)
Hughes, Roy (Newport E)
Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne)
Illsley, Eric
Ingram, Adam
Jack, Michael
Jackson, Glenda (H'stead)
Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H)
Jamieson, David
Jenkins, Brian (SE Staff)
Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW)
Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham)
Jowell, Tessa
Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Keen, Alan
Kennedy, Charles (Ross,C&S)
Khabra, Piara S
Kilfoyle, Peter
Kirkwood, Archy
Knight, Rt Hon Greg (Derby N)
Knox, Sir David
Lait, Mrs Jacqui
Lester, Sir James (Broxtowe)
Lewis, Terry
Liddell, Mrs Helen
Lloyd, Rt Hon Sir Peter (Fareham)
Lloyd, Tony (Stretford)
Llwyd, Elfyn
Lynne, Ms Liz
McAvoy, Thomas
McCartney, Ian
Macdonald, Calum
McFall, John
MacKay, Andrew
McKelvey, William
Mackinlay, Andrew
McLeish, Henry
Maclennan, Robert
McNamara, Kevin
MacShane, Denis
Madden, Max
Maddock, Diana
Mahon, Alice
Mandelson, Peter
Marek, Dr John
Marshall, David (Shettleston)
Marshall, John (Hendon S)
Martin, Michael J (Springburn)
Martlew, Eric
Maxton, John
Meacher, Michael
Michael, Alun
Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley)
Milburn, Alan
Miller, Andrew
Moonie, Dr Lewis
Morgan, Rhodri
Morley, Elliot
Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley)
Mudie, George
Mullin, Chris
Nicholson, Emma (Devon West)
O'Brien, Mike (N W'kshire)
Olner, Bill
Oppenheim, Phillip
Ottaway, Richard
Pickles, Eric
Pickthall, Colin
Pike, Peter L
Pope, Greg
Prentice, Bridget (Lew'm E)
Prentice, Gordon (Pendle)
Primarolo, Dawn
Quin, Ms Joyce
Radice, Giles
Randall, Stuart
Rathbone, Tim
Raynsford, Nick
Reid, Dr John
Rendel, David
Roche, Mrs Barbara
Rooker, Jeff
Sheerman, Barry
Shore, Rt Hon Peter
Short, Clare
Skinner, Dennis
Smith, Andrew (Oxford E)
Smith, Chris (Isl'ton S & F'sbury)
Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent)
Soley, Clive
Spellar, John
Spring, Richard
Squire, Rachel (Dunfermline W)
Squire, Robin (Hornchurch)
Steinberg, Gerry
Stevenson, George
Stott, Roger
Strang, Dr. Gavin
Straw, Jack
Sutcliffe, Gerry
Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Taylor, John M (Solihull)
Taylor, Matthew (Truro)
Temple-Morris, Peter
Tipping, Paddy
Touhig, Don
Trickett, Jon
Turner, Dennis
Vaz, Keith
Wallace, James
Walley, Joan
Wells, Bowen
Whitney, Ray
Wicks, Malcolm
Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Sw'n W)
Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen)
Worthington, Tony
Wright, Dr Tony
Young, Rt Hon Sir George

Tellers for the Noes:


Ms Janet Anderson and
Mrs. Jane Kennedy.

Question accordingly negatived.

17 Jun 1996 : Column 650

Amendments made: No. 65, in page 46, line 18, leave out from 'consideration' to end of line 19 and insert


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