Select Committee on European Legislation Sixteenth Report


INTRA-COMMUNITY TRADE IN CATTLE AND PIGS

5. We have given further consideration to the following on the basis of further information from the Government. We maintain our opinion[17] that it raises questions of political importance, and continue to make no recommendation for its further consideration at this stage:-


MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD
(15128) 4168/94 COM(93)698 Draft Directive amending and updating Directive 64/432/EEC on health problems affecting intra-Community trade in bovine animals and swine.
Legal base: Article 43; qualified majority voting.

Background

    5.1  Proposals on health problems affecting intra-Community trade in cattle and pigs have been under discussion for more than two years. A late change in this proposal required obligatory central databases for cattle and pigs to be in operation by 31 December 1999. Discussion had previously been on the basis of optional databases. The proposed compulsory database for pigs would require additional details, including registration number of the holding or herd of origin and the number of health certificates where applicable, and the registration number of the last holding or herd the pig had been on (for animals imported from third countries, the holding of importation). The Government estimated the cost of setting up such a mandatory system at £3 million to £5 million in Great Britain, with annual running costs of around £2 million. No cost/benefit assessment had been provided by the Commission (who had accepted the last minute amendment put forward by the Council Secretariat).

    5.2  Some other changes were made in the proposal, in particular a derogation for the export of animals from Spain, on which we sought further information, and which was supplied to us for our sitting on 12 February 1997. On the basis of the further information we noted that the cost/benefit of the pig database proposal had not been fully considered by the Commission, nor had there been time to assess the reactions of the pig industry. We therefore urged the Government not to agree to the proposal until these two matters were resolved. We now understand that the proposal may be put before the 17-19 March Agriculture Council.

The Parliamentary Secretary's letter of 25 February

    5.3  This letter deals with the two outstanding points. We are grateful that the Government has taken up the question of likely costs with the Commission and has sent us a copy of the Commission's justification. This states:

        "I can confirm that the proposed pig database introduced during the discussions in the Council was endorsed by the Commission. This endorsement took into account that the availability of a database is a very valuable tool for the control and prevention of serious pig diseases. In this context, I wish to recall the start of modern epidemiology in 1855 when Dr John Snow, Queen Victoria's anaesthesiologist, used simple maps of the distribution of human cholera mortality in London to help establish that the disease was waterborne. This research was a cornerstone of medical geography and assisted greatly in the development of the discipline of epidemiology.

        "Today, with the advent of computer-based electronic data processing, it has become possible to process information on many aspects associated with animal populations, disease surveillance, disease control and in-depth epidemiological studies. Readily available information on size, type and location of pig herds will be extremely useful in disaster planning, disease control management and tracing of spread of disease.

        "In recent years it has been noted that in areas where a pig database has been in place during a Classical Swine Fever epidemic, the time and manpower required to complete epidemiological investigations were reduced considerably. The economic benefits obtained from curtailing an epidemic by using a pig database is difficult to estimate but a reduction in the number of outbreaks of a serious infectious disease like Classical Swine Fever may easily outweigh the costs of a database."

    5.4  We note from the Parliamentary Secretary's letter:

        "The overwhelming view of the pig producers is that there is no need for a database for pigs. They point to the current high health status of the national herd. They note that most pigs do not move from their natal holdings until they go for slaughter, and that there is no benefit in recording these moves onto a database. They are particularly opposed to paying for a database, especially as they perceive no benefit from one."

        The Parliamentary Secretary adds:

        "However, trade associations for the abattoirs and meat manufactures are, in principle, in favour of a database".

    Conclusions

      5.5  The letter from the Commission is in no sense a cost/benefit justification for a compulsory measure. There are many other ways in which information on disease control can be obtained, as is clearly demonstrated by United Kingdom experience. The Commission letter does not take into account the degree of availability of "computer-based electronic data processing" throughout the Community . It may be available for large-scale pig breeders; it is highly unlikely that it would be available for small individual pig keepers, particularly in the more remote areas of the Community. The imposition of a compulsory system without consultation with those likely to be affected may well result in a régime which cannot be properly enforced.

      5.6  We note that the trade associations for abattoirs and meat manufacturers are in favour of a database, but the proposals are likely to have little or no cost or other implications for them.

      5.7  We have considered whether a debate would now be appropriate on this proposal. We believe that the Government agrees with our view that the late change, without proper consideration, is unacceptable. Proposals put for decision which are not available for scrutiny, and which are presented on ill-prepared documentation not available in all languages, can only discredit the process of Community legislation. This sequence of events eloquently supports our case for an effective four-week period of notice for all legislative and pre-legislative documents. While a debate could emphasise these concerns, it is unlikely to lead to any more productive outcome.

      5.8  However, we consider the matter should not be lightly dismissed. We note the remarks of the Director General of DG VI[18] reported in Agra Europe that CAP reform "must involve a high measure of simplification and deregulation with important parts of the responsibility of the management of agriculture policy being returned to the Member State Governments". This proposal, in so far as it relates to the pig database, exemplifies much of what is wrong with the way in which Community legislation is decided. In particular:

          (1)  this is a further amendment to the Directive 64/432/EEC, which has been amended no fewer than 40 times and which has long been in need of consolidation. A full consolidation has not yet taken place despite the Commission's stated policy that all legislative measures should be consolidated after no more than ten amendments[19];

          (2)  the introduction of a compulsory requirement at the last moment prevented proper discussion and scrutiny;

          (3)  the proposal put to the Council in December for decision was not available in all the official languages;

          (4)  the Commission has not carried out a proper cost benefit analysis, despite agreeing to make the database compulsory;

          (5)  the means of implementing the compulsory requirement have not been discussed with those most directly affected, either by the Commission or by the Member States;

          (6)  the Commission did not carry out any real assessment as to the practicability of a requirement for which, presumably, there will be penalties for non-compliance;

          (7)  it is unclear whether this compulsory database requirement will duplicate already well tried and established systems operating in Member States.

      5.9  The Commission has supported making the database compulsory when previous discussions had indicated that many Member States preferred an optional arrangement, but it has not shown that this action is necessary.[20]

      5.10  We are therefore writing to the Secretary-General of the Commission to raise our concerns. In our view, better legislation requires adequate Scrutiny by Member States, prior consultation with those likely to be affected, a proper cost/benefit assessment and the avoidance of legislation that cannot be properly implemented throughout the Community. We would like to know in what ways the Commission considers that this proposal meets these conditions. Meanwhile, we are not clearing the document.

    17  (15128) 4168/94; See HC 48-x (1993-94), paragraph 1 (2 March 1994); HC 48-xviii (1993-94), paragraph 1 (1 May 1994); HC 70-xix (1994-95), paragraph 11 (21 June 1995); HC 36-vii (1996-97), paragraph 7 (11 December 1996); HC 36-xi (1996-97), paragraph 7 (29 January 1997); HC 36-xiv (1996-97), paragraph 3 (1 February 1997). Back

    18   The Directorate General responsible for agriculture. Back

    19  The Commission most recently quoted this standing instruction in document 12469/96, which we quoted in our Report on this proposal on 29 January 1997, paragraph 7. See also our Report on The Role of National Parliaments, HC 51-xxviii (1995-96), paragraphs 111-112. Back

    20   See Article 3b of the Treaty, third paragraph. Back


     
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