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Page 701 1997-1998 Volume 254 [No. 210.] Monday 20th July 1998. The House met at half-past Two oclock. PRAYERS.
Statute Law Repeals Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill, intituled, An Act to promote the reform of the statute law by the repeal, in accordance with recommendations of the Law Commission and the Scottish Law Commission, of certain enactments which (except in so far as their effect is preserved) are no longer of practical utility, and to make other provision in connection with the repeal of those enactments; to which they desire the concurrence of this House. Sexual Orientation Discrimination Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill, intituled, An Act to render unlawful certain kinds of discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation; to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
Secretary Marjorie Mowlam acquainted the House, That she had it in Command from the Queen to acquaint the House that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Bill, has consented to place Her prerogative, so far as it is affected by the Bill, at the disposal of Parliament for the purposes of the Bill. And a Motion being made and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read a second time; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clive Betts, Mr David Jamieson: 322. Tellers for the Noes, The Reverend Ian Paisley, Mr Peter Robinson: 9. So the Question was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read a second time, and stood committed to a Committee of the whole House, pursuant to Order [17th July]. Committee to-morrow.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Northern Ireland Bill, it is expedient to authorise (a) the payment out of money provided by Parliament of any expenditure of the Secretary of State in consequence of the Act; (b) the charging on, and payment out of, the Consolidated Fund of sums to be paid into the Consolidated Fund of Northern Ireland; (c) the issue out of the National Loans Fund of sums required by the Secretary of State for the making of advances to the Department of Finance and Personnel in Northern Ireland; (d) the payment of sums into the Consolidated Fund or the National Loans Fund(Mr Jim Dowd):It was agreed to.
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And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till seventeen minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.43 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Merchant Shipping (Distress Messages) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1691), dated 6th July 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
Other Papers:
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(1) Coastguard Agency, and (2) Marine Safety Agency for 199798, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 800 and 801] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
APPENDIX II Standing Committees
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[No. 211.] Tuesday 21st July 1998. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Bill to be read the third time to-morrow.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
The Lords agree, without Amendment, to the Amendment made by this House to one of their Amendments to the School Standards and Framework Bill; they do not insist on their remaining Amendments, to which this House has disagreed; they agree, without Amendment, to an Amendment made by this House in lieu of certain of their Amendments; and they agree, without Amendment, to the Amendments made by this House to words restored to the Bill.
Relationship of Government to ParliamentA Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House, reiterating the importance of a strong parliamentary democracy in Britain, deplores the fact that successive governments have increasingly diluted the role of Parliament by making announcements to the media before making them to this House; by undermining the legitimate revising role of the House of Lords; by giving access to lobbyists at a time when the representations of elected Members are dealt with in an increasingly dilatory fashion; by inhibiting the rights of backbenchers to make criticisms of their own side; by encouraging planted supplementary questions which fail to hold the Executive to account; and by responding to questions and arguments with Page 705 Tuesday 21st July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top meaningless soundbites and partisan rhetoric instead of constructive answers(Mr A. J. Beith); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words notes that members of the Government are present daily in both Houses, putting forward the case for the Government's legislative and financial proposals and being held to account for its policies and actions; welcomes the all-party support for the establishment of the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons and the endorsement by the House of key proposals to make Parliament more effective and efficient; notes that more statements have been made by ministers this session than in the equivalent period in 1992-93, and that Cabinet ministers have given oral evidence to select committees on more occasions than the average for the past seven sessions; and believes that the Government has lived up to both its manifesto commitment and the 19th March 1997 resolution on ministerial accountability', instead thereof.(Mrs Ann Taylor.) And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Donald Gorrie: 42. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Greg Pope, Mr David Clelland: 310. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):It was agreed to. The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House notes that members of the Government are present daily in both Houses, putting forward the case for the Government's legislative and financial proposals and being held to account for its policies and actions; welcomes the all-party support for the establishment of the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons and the endorsement by the House of key proposals to make Parliament more effective and efficient; notes that more statements have been made by ministers this session than in the equivalent period in 199293, and that Cabinet ministers have given oral evidence to select committees on more occasions that the average for the past seven sessions; and believes that the Government has lived up to both its manifesto commitment and the 19th March 1997 resolution on ministerial accountability. European Single Currency,A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House believes that membership of the European Single Currency will be in Britain's long-term economic interests because it will promote trade, increase competitiveness, secure inward investment, reduce interest rates, boost economic stability, consolidate the City of London's pre-eminent financial market position, and promote growth, employment and Britain's influence in Europe; calls on the Government to hold a referendum on the principle of the Single Currency during the current Parliament and to join the Single Currency at the earliest practical opportunity; and in the intervening period to implement a series of policies to prepare for Single Currency membership including: joint six monthly reports by the Treasury and the Bank of England on progress towards interest rate convergence with the Euro zone, steps to secure a stable and fairly valued pound, action to align UK and Euro inflation levels and targets, and discussions with the UK's European partners aimed at promoting an accountable structure for the European Central Bank and maximum possible fiscal subsidiarity(Mr Malcolm Bruce); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words welcomes the Government's conviction to pursue a prudent and balanced policy in respect of United Kingdom membership of the single currency; believes that, in principle, British membership of a successful single currency could bring economic benefits to Britain and to Europe; welcomes the Government's decision to make the national economic interest the key test for British entry; agrees with the Government that, barring some fundamental and unforeseen change in economic circumstances, making a decision to join during the current Parliament is not realistic; commends the actions of the Government to introduce a programme of economic reforms and practical assistance for British business which are both in the national economic interest and will help to create a real option of joining the single currency early in the next Parliament should Government, Parliament and the people so decide; and believes that the Government's policy will bring stability to business and reflects the long-term economic interests of the country', instead thereof.(Mr Alistair Darling.) And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question; Page 706 Tuesday 21st July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Edward Davey, Mr Phil Willis: 46. Tellers for the Noes, Jane Kennedy, Mr Jon Owen Jones: 292. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):It was agreed to. The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House welcomes the Government's conviction to pursue a prudent and balanced policy in respect of United Kingdom membership of the single currency; believes that, in principle, British membership of a successful single currency could bring economic benefits to Britain and to Europe; welcomes the Government's decision to make the national economic interest the key test for British entry; agrees with the Government that, barring some fundamental and unforeseen change in economic circumstances, making a decision to join during the current Parliament is not realistic; commends the actions of the Government to introduce a programme of economic reforms and practical assistance for British businesses which are both in the national economic interest and will help to create a real option of joining the single currency early in the next Parliament should Government, Parliament and the people so decide; and believes that the Government's policy will bring stability to business and reflects the long-term economic interests of the country.
(1) residents of Hastings and Rye for an improved transport infrastructure for the area, and (2) residents and others of the Far Cotton and St. James' areas of Northampton for a comprehensive public inquiry into the floods in the Northampton area in Easter 1998 were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
And the Motion having being made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then thirteen minutes to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.47 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) National Museums and Galleries of Northern Ireland: Ulster Folk and Transport Museum, and (2) Northern Ireland Health and Personal Social Services: Controls to Prevent and Detect Fraud in Family Practitioner Service Payments [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [Nos. 916 and 917] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam]. Page 707 Tuesday 21st July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top
(1) Central Office of Information, (2) Companies House, and (3) HM Land Registry for 199798, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 978, 824 and 962] [Clerk of the House].
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APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Tenth Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [Developments in the Liberalisation of the Domestic Electricity Market], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 871] [Mr Martin O'Neill].
Page 709 Tuesday 21st July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top [No. 212.] Wednesday 22nd July 1998. The House met at half-past Nine o'clock. PRAYERS.
And it being Two o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
The Lords have agreed to the Northern Ireland (Sentences) Bill, with Amendments; to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
Ordered, That the Lords Amendments to the Bill be considered in the following order, namely: No. 125; No. 33; Remaining Amendments (other than Nos. 3, 5 to 12, 14 to 16, 18, 20 to 22, 27, 49 and 82); Nos. 49 and 82; Nos. 3, 5 to 12, 14 to 16, 18 and 20 to 22; No. 27.(Mr Jon Owen Jones.) Lords Amendment No. 125 was agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 33. Question put, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John McFall, Mr David Jamieson: 266. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Ieuan Wyn Jones, Mr Lembit Opik: 46. Page 710 Wednesday 22nd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top The Lords Amendment was accordingly agreed to. Lords Amendments Nos. 1, 2, 4, 13, 17, 19, 23 to 26, 28 to 32, 34 to 48, 50 to 81, 83 to 124, 126 to 210, 49 and 82 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 186 and 187. Lords Amendments Nos. 3, 5 to 12, 14 to 16, 18 and 20 were disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 21. The Lords Amendment was amended, in line 1, by leaving out the words the same list as the last person to occupy the vacant seat' and inserting the words that list', instead thereof.(Mr Secretary Davies.) The Lords Amendment, so amended, was agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 22 was disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 27 was disagreed to. An Amendment was proposed to the Bill in lieu of Lords Amendment No. 27, disagreed to, in page 28, line 12, at the end, to insert the words ( ) A Minister of the Crown may not (a) be elected to be Assembly First Secretary, or (b) be appointed as an Assembly Secretary.'(Dr Liam Fox.) Question put, That the Amendment in lieu be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Nigel Waterson: 148. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Kevin Hughes: 265. The Title was accordingly amended, as follows: A Bill to establish and make provision about the National Assembly for Wales and the offices of Auditor General for Wales and the Welsh Administration Ombudsman; to reform certain Welsh public bodies and abolish certain other Welsh public bodies; and for connected purposes. Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 3, 5 to 12, 14 to 16, 18, 20, 22 and 27. Ordered, That Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Secretary Davies, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Nigel Evans and Mr Jon Owen Jones be members of the Committee. Ordered, That Mr Secretary Davies be the Chairman of the Committee. Ordered, That three be the quorum of the Committee. Ordered, That the Committee do withdraw immediately.(Mr Jon Owen Jones.)
(In the Committee) Clause No.1 (Status of Northern Ireland). Amendment (No. 60) proposed, in page 1, line 10, at the end, to insert the words (1A) The Secretary of State shall not make an order under paragraph 1 of Schedule 1 without the Assembly giving its consent by a cross-community vote as defined in section 4(5).'.(The Reverend Ian Paisley.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The Committee divided. Tellers for the Ayes, The Reverend Ian Paisley, Mr William Thompson: 10. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Robert Ainsworth, Mr Kevin Hughes: 285. Another Amendment (No. 104) proposed, in page 1, line 11, after the word But', to insert the words subject to subsection (3) below'.(Mr David Trimble.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 105) proposed, in page 1, line 15, after the word of', to insert the words the Republic of'.(Mr David Trimble.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. The Chairman, being of the opinion that the principle of the Clause and any matters arising thereon had been adequately discussed in the course of debate on the Amendments Page 711 Wednesday 22nd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top proposed thereto, put forthwith the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 68 (Debate on clause or schedule standing part), That the Clause stand part of the Bill: It was agreed to. Schedule No. 1 (Polls for the purposes of section 1). Amendment (No. 37) proposed, in page 39, line 18, to leave out the word including' and insert the word except'.(Mr Malcolm Moss.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Schedule agreed to. Clause No. 2 (Previous enactments). Amendment (No. 134) proposed, in page 1, line 16, at the beginning, to insert (1)'.(Mr Willam Ross.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Question put, That the Clause stand part of the Bill. The Committee divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Robert Ainsworth, Mr Kevin Hughes: 282. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Robinson, Mr Jeffrey M. Donaldson: 9. It being more than three hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Bill this day, the Chairman, pursuant to Order [17th July], put the Questions necesssary for the disposal of business then required to be concluded. Clauses Nos. 3 and 4, Schedules Nos. 2 and 3, Clauses Nos. 5 and 6, Schedule No. 4 and Clauses Nos. 7 to 13 agreed to. The Chairman left the Chair to report progress and ask leave to sit again. The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr Jim Dowd reported, That the Committee had made progress in the Bill and moved, That the Committee may have leave to sit again. Committee again to-morrow.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments Nos. 3, 5 to 12, 14 to 16, 18, 20 and 22 for the following Reason: Because the Amendments would unjustifiably restrict the right of voters to choose the persons who are to be members of the National Assembly for Wales for the electoral regions. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 27 for the following Reason: Because it is not appropriate for Ministers of the Crown to be disqualified from being members of the National Assembly for Wales. The Reasons were agreed to. Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reasons, with the Bill and Amendments.
And the Motion having being made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then twenty-eight minutes to Twelve o'clock till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 11.32 p.m. Page 712 Wednesday 22nd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Public Interest Disclosure (Northern Ireland) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1763), dated 21st July 1998 [by Act] [Mrs Ann Taylor].
Other Papers:
(2) Accounts of Scottish Enterprise for 199798, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1028] [Clerk of the House].
(2) Report of Scottish Homes for 199798 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Dewar].
Page 713 Wednesday 22nd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top (2) Angola (United Nations Sanctions) (Channel Islands) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1756), (3) Angola (United Nations Sanctions) (Dependent Territories) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1753), (4) Angola (United Nations Sanctions) (Isle of Man) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1757), and (5) United Nations (International Tribunals) (Former Yugoslavia and Rwanda) (Amendment) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1755), dated 21st July 1998 [by Act] [Mrs Ann Taylor]. APPENDIX II Standing Committees
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Undertaking to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and appointed Mr Jimmy Hood Chairman; and (2) The Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Douglas Alexander, Mr Russell Brown, Mr Dennis Canavan, Mr Malcolm Chisholm, Maria Fyfe, Dr Norman A. Godman, Mr James Gray, Mr Dominic Grieve, Mr Oliver Letwin, Mr John McFall, Mrs Anne McGuire, Rosemary McKenna, Mr Henry McLeish, Sir Robert Smith, Mr Robert Syms and Mr James Wallace.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Special Grant Report to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and appointed Mr Roger Gale Chairman; and (2) The Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mrs Irene Adams, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mr Oliver Letwin, Mr John McAllion, Mr John McFall, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Henry McLeish, Mr David Marshall, Dr Lewis Moonie, Mr Michael Moore, Mr Laurence Robertson, Mr Frank Roy, Mr Malcolm Savidge, Mr Richard Shepherd, Sir Robert Smith and Mr David Stewart.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Report and the Review to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and appointed Mr Andrew Welsh Chairman; and (2) The Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Robert Ainsworth, Dr Vincent Cable, Mr Lawrence Cunliffe, Mr Edward Davey, Mr Clive Efford, Mr Michael Fallon, Mr Barry Gardiner, Mr Nick Gibb, Mr David Hanson, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Phil Hope, Dr Ashok Kumar, Mrs Helen Liddell, Mr Bill Olner, Mr David Ruffley and Mr Stephen Twigg.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and appointed Mr George Stevenson Chairman; and (2) The Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Ben Bradshaw, Mr John Burnett, Mrs Ann Cryer, Mr Eric Forth, Mr Michael Foster (Worcester), Mr Edward Garnier, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr Dominic Grieve, Mr David Hinchliffe, Mr Geoffrey Hoon, Jane Kennedy, Mr David Lock, Mr Bob Russell, Mr Martin Salter, Mr Barry Sheerman and Mr John M. Taylor.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the Tenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and appointed Mr Peter Atkinson Chairman; and (2) The Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr John Bercow, Christine Butler, Mr Jamie Cann, Mr Vernon Coaker, Mr Donald Gorrie, Mr Damian Green, Dr Kim Howells, Mr David Jamieson, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mr Oliver Letwin, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Bill Rammell, Mr Andrew Reed, Mr Phil Willis, Mr Brian Wilson and Mr Anthony D. Wright. Page 714 Wednesday 22nd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Eleventh Report from the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Implementation of the Best Value Framework], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 705-I] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett]; and (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee on 22nd July [Railway Safety]; to be printed [No. 987-ii] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
[No. 213.] Thursday 23rd July 1998. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 30th July.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
The Lords have agreed to the Police (Northern Ireland) Bill, without Amendment. The Lords have agreed to the Tamar Bridge Bill, with Amendments, to which they desire the concurrence of this House. The Lords have agreed to certain of the Amendments made by this House to the Crime and Disorder Bill [Lords] and they have disagreed to the remaining Amendments made by this House, for which disagreement they assign their Reasons. Page 715 Thursday 23rd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top
(In the Committee) Clause No. 23 (Exclusion of Ministers from office). Amendment (No. 15) proposed, in page 11, to leave out lines 28 and 29 and to insert the words ( ) because he is not committed to the use now and in the future of only democratic and peaceful means; ( ) because he is involved in acts of violence or of preparation for violence; ( ) because he is directing, assisting or promoting acts of violence committed or planned by other people; ( ) because he is not committed to the total disarmament of all paramilitary organisations and the achievement of the decommissioning of all paramilitary arms, by 22nd May 2000; ( ) because he is not co-operating fully with any Commission of the kind referred to in section 7 of the Northern Ireland Arms Decommissioning Act 1997 in the implementation of the agreement reached at multi-party talks on Northern Ireland set out in Command Paper 3883;'.(Mr Andrew MacKay.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Tim Collins: 144. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John McFall, Mr David Jamieson: 272. It being after Seven o'clock, the Chairman, pursuant to Order [17th July], put the Question necessary for the disposal of business then required to be concluded. Clause (No. 23) agreed to. Clause No. 14 (First Minister and deputy First Minister). Amendment (No. 71) proposed, in page 7, to leave out lines 13 and 14.(Mr Peter Robinson.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause (No. 14) agreed to. Schedule No. 5 agreed to. Clause No. 15 (Northern Ireland Ministers). Amendment (No. 144) proposed, in page 7, line 41, to leave out from the first the' to the end of line 42 and insert the word Assembly'.(Mr David Trimble.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 163) proposed, in page 8, line 31, at the end, to insert the words (9A) If the number of seats in the Assembly which are held by members of one or more political party, reduce or increase, for any reason to such an extent that it alters the number of Ministerial offices entitled to be held by a party, then the procedure set out in subsections (4) to (9) shall be reapplied.'.(Mr Peter Robinson.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause (No. 15) agreed to. Clause No. 16 (The Executive Committee). Amendment (No. 76) proposed, in page 9, line 16, to leave out the word chairmen' and insert the words chairman and deputy chairman'.(Mr Peter Robinson.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Page 716 Thursday 23rd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top Clause (No. 16) agreed to. Clauses Nos. 17 to 19 agreed to. Clause No. 20 (International obligations). Amendment (No. 148) proposed, in page 10, to leave out lines 12 to 15.(Mr David Trimble.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause (No. 20) agreed to. Clause No. 21 (Agency arrangements between UK and NI departments). Amendment (No. 13) proposed, in page 10, line 31, at the end, to add the words (5) Arrangements under this section between the Government of the United Kingdom and a Northern Ireland department shall be known as concordats. (6) The Government of the United Kingdom shall not enter into a concordat unless a draft of the concordat has been laid before, and approved by a resolution of, each House of Parliament. (7) Northern Ireland departments shall not enter into a concordat unless a draft of the concordat has been approved by the Assembly, by such procedure as standing orders may determine.'.(Mr Dominic Grieve.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause (No. 21) agreed to. Clause No. 22 (Statutory Committees). Amendment (No. 14) proposed, in page 11, line 2, at the end, to insert the words , except that the chairman shall not be a member of the same party as the Northern Ireland Minister being advised and assisted by the statutory committee.'.(Mr Malcolm Moss.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause (No. 22) agreed to. To report progress and ask leave to sit again.(Mr Jim Dowd.) The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr Jim Dowd reported, That the Committee had made progress in the Bill and moved, That the Committee may have leave to sit again. Committee again to-morrow.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till nine minutes to Ten o'clock adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 9.51 p.m. Page 717 Thursday 23rd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) Historic Royal Palaces, and (2) Royal Parks Agency for 199798, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 955 and 850] [Mr Secretary Smith].
(1) Pay and Personnel Agency, (2) Queen Victoria School, and (3) Royal Air Force Personnel Management Agency for 199798, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 886, 906 and 924] [Mr Secretary Robertson].
(1) Driving Standards Agency, (2) Medicines Control Agency, and (3) Vehicle Inspectorate for 199798, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 819, 841 and 891] [Clerk of the House]. Page 718 Thursday 23rd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top
(2) Report of the Arts Council of England on the National Lottery for 199798 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].
(1) Driver and Vehicle Licensing Northern Ireland, (2) Industrial Research and Technology Unit, and (3) Valuation and Lands Agency for 199798, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 881, 912, and 896]; and (4) Accounts of the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland for 199798, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1003] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam].
(1) Scottish Agricultural Science Agency, and (2) Scottish Office Pensions Agency, for 199798, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 925 and 926] [Mr Secretary Dewar].
Page 719 Thursday 23rd July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning) Order 1998 Partial Revocation Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1801) [by Standing Order] [The Speaker].
Papers withdrawn:
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(2) Memoranda laid before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [The Millennium Celebrations in the United Kingdom] [Mr Gerald Kaufman].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 23rd July [Strategic Defence Review]; to be printed [No. 138xxiii] [Mr Michael Colvin].
(2) Memoranda laid before the Sub-Committee [Part-time Working; The Performance and Future Role of the Employment Service] [Mr Derek Foster].
(2) Memoranda laid before the Health Committee [The Welfare of Former British Child Migrants] [Mr David Hinchliffe].
[No. 214.] Friday 24th July 1998. The House met at half-past Nine o'clock. PRAYERS.
The Lords have agreed to the Landmines Bill, without Amendment. Page 720 Friday 24th July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top
(In the Committee) Clause No. 24 (Dates of elections and dissolutions). Amendment (No. 150) proposed, in page 13, line 4, to leave out from the word If' to the word by' in line 12 and insert the words three months after either the First Minister or Deputy First Minister ceases to hold office the Assembly has not elected a First Minister or Deputy First Minister Her Majesty shall'.(Mr David Trimble.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause agreed to. Clauses Nos. 25 and 26 agreed to. Clause No. 27 (Vacancies). Amendment (No. 100) proposed, in page 14, to leave out lines 9 to 11 and insert the words (2) Subject to subsection (2A) below an order under subsection (1) shall provide that where a seat was last filled by a member of a registered party, any vacancy shall be filled by another member nominated by that party (without a by-election). (2A) Provided that where the condition mentioned in subsection (2) is not met, a vacancy shall be filled by (a) a by-election, or (b) such other method as the Secretary of State may prescribe in the order.'(Mr Andrew Mackinlay.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause agreed to. It being Eleven o'clock, and it being the Speaker's intention to interrupt the proceedings under Standing Order No. 11 (Friday sittings), the Chairman left the Chair, without Question put, to report progress and ask leave to sit again. The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair and Mr Robert Ainsworth reported, That the Committee had made progress in the Bill, and moved, That the Committee may have leave to sit again.
Schools Standards and Framework Act 1998 Police (Northern Ireland) Act 1998.
(In the Committee) Clause No. 28 (Disqualification). Amendment (No. 93) proposed, in page 14, to leave out lines 32 to 34.(The Reverend Ian Paisley.) Question, That the Amendment be made, put and negatived. Clause agreed to. Clause No. 29 (Effect of disqualification and provision for relief). Amendment (No. 22) proposed, in page 15, to leave out lines 6 to 15.(Mr Malcolm Moss.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Page 721 Friday 24th July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top Clause agreed to. Clauses Nos. 30 and 31 agreed to. Clause No. 32 (Commission). Amendment (No. 187) proposed, in page 16, line 37, at the end, to insert the wordsSuch directions shall not be given without cross-community support.'.(Mr Eddie McGrady.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause agreed to. Schedule No. 6 agreed to. Clause No. 33 agreed to. Schedule No. 7 agreed to. Clause No. 34 agreed to. Clause No. 35 (Members' interests). Amendment (No. 24) proposed, in page 17, to leave out lines 32 to 36.(Mr Malcolm Moss.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause agreed to. Clauses Nos. 36 to 45 agreed to. Clause No. 46 (Payments into the Fund: Secretary of State). Amendment (No. 26) proposed, in page 23, line 20, at the end, to add the words ( ) Subject to subsection ( ) below, the Secretary of State shall make such a payment at least once every financial year. ( ) No such payment shall be made unless the Secretary of State has laid before the House of Commons a statement certifying that the payment recognises the needs of Northern Ireland in relation to the needs of the United Kingdom as a whole.'.(Mr Malcolm Moss.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause agreed to. Clauses Nos. 47 to 49 agreed to. Clause No. 50 (Financial acts of the Assembly). Amendment (No. 28) proposed, in page 24, line 38, at the end, to insert the word or'.(Mr Malcolm Moss.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause agreed to. Clauses Nos. 51 to 53 agreed to. To report progress and ask leave to sit again.(Mr Jim Dowd.) The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr Jim Dowd reported, That the Committee had made progress in the Bill and moved, That the Committee may have leave to sit again. Committee again on Monday 27th July.
Page 722 Friday 24th July 1998 1997-1998 Volume 254 Back to top And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till one minute past Two o'clock, adjourned till Monday 27th July. [Adjourned at 2.01 p.m. APPENDIX Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
(1) East of Scotland Water, (2) North of Scotland Water Authority, and (3) West of Scotland Water for 199798 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Dewar].
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