Select Committee on Procedure Minutes of Evidence



Memorandum by the Clerk of the House

FINANCIAL PROCEDURE

  1.  The Committee asked for a written statement on the suggestion put forward in oral evidence on 28 July in connection with the consideration by select committees of Estimates and other government financial proposals (notably the three-year spending plans).

  2.  In any such proposal, a number of potentially competing aims have to be reconciled:

      —  select committees' freedom of action within their orders of reference should not be significantly impaired. At the same time, the Committee observed in its Second Report (HC 438 (1997-98) paragraph 11): "although detailed consideration of financial matters falls to select committees, there is no incentive for them to spend time on the Estimates or on departmental annual reports";

      —  the right of the Liaison Committee under SO No 54 to select Estimates for consideration by the House and to choose select committee reports on Wednesday mornings under SO No 145 ought to be respected;

      —  the financial initiative of the Crown, a principle which preserves to Her Majesty's ministers the right to initiate and increase spending—a principle which underlies all financial aspects of the procedure of the House, and not only Supply—is a central constitutional fact. On the other hand, it leaves to select committees and to individual Members only the radical options of voting to deny or to reduce Supply; and

      —  any new procedures ought to interfere as little as possible with the settled sessional pattern of Estimates guillotines under SO No 55—that certain types of grant are set down for consideration not later (and in practice often much earlier) than 6 February, 18 March and 5 August.

  3.  One of the ways of bringing together these objectives might be:

      (a)  to amend SO No 54 by removing the connection between select committee reports and the consideration of Estimates to which these reports are related. (It is true that the Standing Order enables the Liaison Committee to recommend Estimates for consideration without reference to a select committee report: but they have never done so);

      (b)  to give over the three Estimates days to motions tabled by the chairman of a select committee, with the leave of the Liaison Committee;

      (c)  to establish that in giving leave to make such motions, the Liaison Committee should have regard to an order of priority of select committee reports, which depends on the degree to which they affect government financial proposals. It would not be essential to set out the full details in the Standing Order: much might be left to the discretion of the Liaison Committee within the overall framework (for which see paragraph 4 below).

  In general, however, a committee report which concluded that a motion should be made to reduce or vote against the entirety of an Estimate should have the highest priority.

  The next preference would be given to a report which made proposals for alteration "in the opinion of the House" (including increases, adjustments, and decreases) in the three year spending allocations, objectives and targets announced by the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 14 July, following the Comprehensive Spending Review (HC Deb (1997-98) 316 cc 187ff). Debates on such proposals for reduction or alteration would take place in the context of evidence taken by the committee, and of the arguments advanced in support of its conclusions.

  Failing reports in either of these categories, other reports might be discussed on a motion for the adjournment, on the understanding that the Liaison Committee would give preference to those reports which, though not in either of the two preceding categories, were largely financial in character.

  4.  A few ancillary points may be made. It would be important to leave the Liaison committee with discretion in the actual operation of any order of the House such as is proposed. Reports which were substantially about policy ought not to "jump the queue", simply because they concluded in a motion to reduce, only loosely connected with the thrust of the report. Secondly, the scheme is not entirely watertight. If the government laid a controversial supplementary while the relevant committee was (for example) abroad on another inquiry, it might not always be possible, though it would of course be desirable, to hold up the voting of the supplementary until the Members of the select committee had had time to take evidence on it, and the Liaison Committee met and gave it priority. Finally, the change would not affect Wednesday morning adjournment debates, which would remain on the existing footing.

  5.  The aim of the proposal would be to encourage select committees to look into the government's financial proposals by offering some preference in securing time for their reports on the floor of the House. No committee would be obliged however to undertake such an inquiry if it believed its time was better spent elsewhere. The scheme would not necessarily give financial reports an absolute priority over policy reports, but rather alter the balance between the two, within existing time constraints. The freedom of choice exercised by the Liaison Committee would be diminished only so far as it was desirable to find some means to improve the House's capacity to exercise its traditional role in the control of Supply. Contentious business would not be brought on at unexpected times, and the supply guillotine timetable would not be disturbed.

28 October 1998


 
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