Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


APPENDIX 1

Supplementary Memorandum submitted by the Permanent Under-Secretary of State of the

Ministry of Defence

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE APPROPRIATION ACCOUNTS 1996-97 PAC 97-98/253

QUESTION 100

When were Ministers informed of the Excess Votes?

  1. The present Secretary of State was first informed, orally, that the Department had overspent the cash limit for 1996-97 in mid-May 1997, shortly after his arrival in office. Although the Department became aware that it had overspent the cash limit at the very end of the 1996-97 financial year, the full extent of the overspend did not emerge until mid-May. This was because, in line with normal practice, it took some weeks to clear balances from Suspense and Imprest accounts. The total value of such transactions had varied widely over the last few years and it was difficult to make a firm estimate of the likely final outturn ahead of mid-May. Following a detailed investigation of the causes of the overspend, I made a detailed written report to the Secretary of State on 1 July 1997.

QUESTION 106

Names of the Top Level Budget (TLB) holders on Votes 1, 2 and 3

  2. The names of the TLB holders between March 1996 and April 1997 are as follows:

VOTE 1

  Commander-in-Chief Fleet: Admiral Sir Peter Abbott KCB

  General Officer Commanding (Northern Ireland): Lt General Sir Rupert Smith KCB DSO OBE QGM

  Commander-in-Chief Land Command: General Sir Roger Wheeler GCB CBE ADC Gen (to January 1997)

  General Sir Michael Walker KCB CMG CBE ADC Gen (from January 1997)

  Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief RAF Strike Command: Air Chief Marshal Sir William Wratten KCB CB AFC ADC CIMGT FRAeS RAF

  

  Second Sea Lord/Commander-in-Chief Naval Home Command: Admiral Sir Michael Boyce KCB OBE ADC

  Adjutant General (Personnel and Training Command): General Sir Michael Rose KCB CBE DSO QGM ADC Gen

  Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief RAF Personnel and Training Command: Air Chief Marshal Sir David Cousins KCB AFC BA

  Second Permanent Under Secretary of State: Sir Moray Stewart KCB DLitt (to September 1996) Mr R T Jackling CB CBE (from October 1996)

  Vice Chief of the Defence Staff: Air Chief Marshal Sir John Willis CBE KCB FRAeS RAF

VOTE 2

  Chief of Fleet Support: Vice Admiral Sir Toby Frere KCB

  Quarter Master General: Lt General Sir Samuel Cowan KCB CBE (from May 1996)

  Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief RAF Logistics Command: Air Chief Marshal Sir John Allison KCB ADC CBE FRAes

VOTE 3

  Chief of Defence Procurement: Sir Robert Walmsley KCB (from May 1996)

  In addition to the above, the Chief Scientific Adviser, Professor Sir David Davies CBE FRS F Eng, was responsible for the scrutiny of the Main Customers' Research Budgets within Vote 3.

QUESTIONS 6, 167 AND 188

Waltham Abbey

  3. I agreed to provide further advice on why Treasury approval was not sought for the expenditure on the works connected with the decontamination project at the Waltham Abbey Royal Gunpowder Mills Site beyond the Department's delegated authority and who was responsible for handling the question of the need for delegated authority.

  4. Within the MoD the project sponsor was the Defence Land Service (DLS). The way the work was contracted and managed was based upon arrangements that were put in place by the original project manager—the Property Services Agency Specialist Services—who managed the project until August 1993. W S Atkins were appointed project manager from August 1993.

  5. From late 1993 onwards action was set in hand by the Deputy Head of Defence Lands Service to put the project on a proper financial footing. The development of more realistic estimates of the cost of decontamination work overlapped with increases in the level of MoD delegations from the Treasury.

  6. In January 1994 the decontamination project was estimated to cost £8.4 million, in excess of the then MoD delegation from the Treasury for capital works projects of £7 million. This delegation was increased to £10 million in March 1994. By March 1994 the project manager was estimating a cost for completion which implied a total project cost of £16.75 million. The Department's view was that this was overstated. In December 1994 in an internal submission the Department was predicting a total cost of £12 million. In November 1994 there had been a further increase in the delegation to MoD to £50 million. The final cost of the work was £15.97 million.

  7. In January 1994 the Deputy Head of the Defence Lands Service asked the Head of Finance in the DLS whether the Treasury should be advised of the position. The finance staff involved at the time recall informal contact being made with HM Treasury in early 1994 to consider the question of whether approval was needed. The finance staff recall informal advice from the Treasury that, since the works delegations were soon to be increased to £10 million, there was little point in making a formal approach at that time. HM Treasury have no record or recollection of this informal exchange. Although there is no documentary evidence of the exchanges, the finance staff believe this advice was relayed to senior DLS management. While this may throw light on why no submission was made in early 1994, a submission to the Treasury should have been triggered by the March 1994 estimate. By the time of the internal submission on the project in December 1994, the Treasury works delegation to MoD had been increased to £50 million.

  8. While the Committee may find this further background helpful, the procedures adopted, including the absence of a proper documentary record on the question fo Treasury approval, were clearly inadequate.

PAC HEARING ON APPROPRIATION ACCOUNTS

  Q2.

  The report by the Comptroller and Auditor General says:

    ". . . the Department do not at present have sufficiently robust financial control mechanisms in place to enable a more accurate level of forecasting than that achieved in 1996-97." (paragraph 16); and

    ". . . some budget holders lack management information at a sufficient level of detail and timeliness in the final weeks of the financial year to enable them to relate planned expenditure sufficiently closely to that incurred." (paragraph 17).

Permanent Under-Secretary of State

Ministry of Defence

17 April 1998


 
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