Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence



II. PROPOSED CHANGES IN CONTROLS AND REPORTING ARRANGEMENTS FOR WHICH PAC APPROVAL IS SOUGHT

A. GIFTS

  1. Gifts of an unusual nature, or gifts whose value exceeds £100,000, must be approved by the Treasury, as must other gifts unless covered by Treasury delegation. Once Treasury approval has been given, the department must lay a Minute before Parliament 14 days in advance of making any such gift. The Minute must currently include an indication of the Treasury's approval.

  2. To give the Committee an idea of the type of gifts involved:

    —  in 1994-95, £400,000 of surplus stocks of emergency biscuits were donated to UK aid organisations;

    —  the MOD is currently arranging to make a gift of land, valued at £2.25 million, forming part of Wroughton Airfield to the trustees of the Science Museum.

  3. The need for all gifts to be reported to the Treasury was asserted in 1894. In 1923, the PAC expressed concern about the practice of making gifts of public property without express Parliamentary authority. A procedure was therefore instituted under which the Treasury would notify Parliament 14 days in advance of any gift proposed by departments greater than £10,000. The threshold was raised to £50,000 in 1977 and to £100,000 in 1982. In 1990, with the agreement of the PAC, responsibility for laying Minutes before Parliament was transferred to departments. In addition if the total value of gifts in a year exceeds £100,000 (excluding any for which Parliamentary authority already exists e.g., through an Estimate) the total value and total number of the gifts must be noted in a department's appropriation accounts, as must any individual gift which exceeds £100,000. Where assets are disposed of at less than full value the discounts are treated as gifts and must therefore be reported under the Minute procedure and noted in the appropriation accounts.

  4. No central record is kept of the number of gifts for which Treasury approval is requested. Some 3,907 gifts (including discounts on asset disposals) are recorded in the Appropriation Accounts for the three years 1993-94 to 1995-96 (an average of 1,302 cases a year), the vast majority being in aggregate form and recorded by MOD and the FCO. Their total value is £36.3 million (an average total value of £12.1 million a year). Within the total, four gifts over £100,000 are identified, of which the highest is for £1.4 million. A very approximate estimate is that the Treasury sees about a dozen cases a year.

The Treasury's Proposals on gifts

  5. The Treasury believes that:

    —  it can rarely add value to the judgment of departments on a particular gift. The delegation thresholds for gifts have already been raised for many departments, with no adverse consequences;

    —  for the strategic purpose of controlling public expenditure, only very large or otherwise significant gifts are of concern to the Treasury, and such gifts would in any case be caught by one or more of the strategic criteria for Treasury approval (being expenditure proposals which could increase pressure on the Estimates provision; or set a potentially expensive precedent; or cause repercussions for others);

    —  a £1 million threshold for minuting Parliament on gifts would be significantly less than the present day value (£2.5 million approximately) of the £10,000 threshold originally set in 1923 by Parliament. A threshold at this level would ensure that Parliament was fully informed—and had an opportunity to comment on—all gifts of a significant size.

  6. In the light of these considerations, the Treasury believes that responsibility for taking decisions on gifts should lie with the departmental Accounting Officer concerned. Subject to the approval of the PAC, the Treasury therefore proposes to discontinue the requirement for Treasury approval of gifts, including unusual gifts, and to increase the threshold for reporting gifts to Parliament through the departmental Minute procedure from £100,000 to £1 million. Consistent with this step, departmental Minutes would no longer include an indication of the Treasury's approval. However, departments would still be required to note in their departmental appropriation accounts any unusual gifts, or any gifts which exceeded the new threshold either individually in aggregate.

B. LOSSES AND SPECIAL PAYMENTS

  7. Treasury approval is required for certain categories of losses and special payments. Thus, for instance, departments have full delegation to write off most cash losses, constructive losses and fruitless payments, but must seek Treasury approval (subject to any delegations granted to individual departments) to waive or abandon claims or to make certain categories of special payments (such as ex gratia payments; payments not required by contract, statute, or regulation; and certain compensation payments). The different types of losses and special payment are defined in Government Accounting.

  8. All individual and aggregated losses and special payments above £100,000 must be noted in departmental appropriation accounts. Serious losses and potential losses should be notified immediately to Parliament ("serious" is not defined in Government Accounting).

  9. Examples of losses and special payments include:

    —  an ex-gratia payment of £351,000, made in 1995-96 to developers in compensation for wasted costs incurred through the need to hold two enquiries after the intervention of the high court;

    —  a special payment of £2.816 million made in 1995-96 following a European Court of Justice ruling concerning the age at which men and women might receive free prescriptions.

  10. The present arrangements date back to 1961 when the Treasury reviewed this control at the instigation of Plowden Committee (who were following up a recommendation to the Select Committee on Estimates of 1957-58). The Treasury concluded that it could add very little value where losses had already occurred, but that there was a case for retaining control over categories of losses and special payments where it was desirable to ensure uniformity—for instance in the settlement of claims against departments.

  11. The PAC concurred with this conclusion, as did Plowden. Plowden noted: "These new arrangements conform with our views on the kind of role which Parliament, and in particular the Committee of Public Accounts, may nowadays reasonably expect the Treasury to exercise on their behalf, with greater emphasis being placed on controlling major expenditures at the expense of the smaller". Plowden recommended that, subject to the agreement of the PAC, the new arrangements should be put in place forthwith, and that the Treasury should review the arrangements from time to time. For its part, the PAC noted that "all these cases will still be open to examination by the Comptroller and Auditor General who is thus in a position to bring to notice in his Report any which appear to him to call for examination by the Committee of Public Accounts".

  12. No central record is kept of the number of cases concerning losses and special payments on which the Treasury is consulted. An internal survey conducted in 1994 suggested that the total number of cases was about 300 a year. The total value of losses and special payments reported in the appropriation accounts for 1995-96 is £461.6 million. These accounts separately record 104 cases over £100,000, with a total value of £159.0 million. of which 23 cases are over £1 million, worth £138.2 million, and 17 cases over £2 million, worth £130.8 million.

The Treasury's proposals on losses and special payments

  13. The Treasury notes that:

    —  its expenditure teams find they can rarely add value to the judgment of departments on such decisions. A number of teams have raised considerably the delegation thresholds for such cases with no adverse consequences. Better decision-making would result from giving departmental Accounting Officers sole responsibility for what happens;

    —  in most cases the sums involved are small and not likely to be material to public expenditure totals; any large special payments would in any case be caught by one or more of the strategic criteria for Treasury approval (expenditure proposals of any kind which could increase pressure on the Estimates provision; or set a potentially expensive precedent; or cause repercussions for others);

    —  with regard to the 1962 objective of ensuring consistency across government, the Treasury is confident that it will be consulted on enough cases (as part of its general responsibility to provide help and guidance to departments on matters of regularity and propriety) to ensure that consistency will be achieved. Moreover, the NAO will be able to check on regularity and propriety as part of its certification audit of departmental accounts;

    —  if the reporting threshold for losses and special payments was increased to £1 million, the number of cases separately reported in appropriation accounts would be reduced by 78 per cent, but the total value of losses and special payments separately identified would only fall by 13 per cent. If the reporting threshold were £2 million, the figures would be 74 per cent and 18 per cent respectively.

  14. In the light of these considerations the Treasury believes that full responsibility for taking decisions on losses and special payments should lie with the departmental Accounting Officer concerned. It now proposes, subject to the approval of the PAC, to transfer responsibility for approving losses and special payments to departments; and to raise the reporting threshold of £100,000 to £2 million.

  15. Departments would of course continue to be required to note in their departmental appropriation accounts any gifts which exceeded the new threshold either individually or in aggregate, and to notify Parliament immediately in the case of a serious loss or special payment.

C. CONTINGENT LIABILITIES

  16. A contingent liability is a payment that may have to be made in the future (e.g., as a result of a warranty). Treasury approval is required for all non-statutory guarantees and indemnities which may exceed £100,000 and which are not given in the normal course of Government business. The Treasury must also be consulted before a department issues letters or statements of comfort, or seeks new statutory powers to take on particular types of liability, or allows its NDPBs to issue letters of comfort or guarantee borrowing by subsidiaries above £1 million.

  17. Such liabilities are also subject to certain Parliamentary reporting rules, as follows:

    —  new or amended non-statutory liabilities which could exceed £100,000 must be reported in advance to Parliament in a Minute approved by the Treasury;

    —  all outstanding contingent liabilities over £100,000, whether statutory or not, must be reported to the Treasury in an annual return which is used in compiling the Supplementary Statements to the Consolidated Fund and National Loans Fund Accounts.

  18. Typical examples of contingent liabilities are:

    —  a non-statutory liability of £1.4 million recorded in 1995-96 in respect of the insurance risk of exhibits on loan to the Army and Navy Museums;

    —  a liability of £3.5 million, in the form of a guarantee to meet a shortfall between rent liability and income accruing to the Open University following an agreement to take over the lease of the former Council of National Academic Awards Headquarters.

  19. In 1981 the Parliamentary reporting requirement was put on the same basis as the Minute procedure used for reporting gifts. The intention of the procedure is that as far as possible Parliament is not asked to authorise the provision of funds to meet liabilities of which it has not had reasonable notice and for which no justification has previously been provided.

  20. The Treasury sees approximately 100 contingent liability cases a year. A Supplementary Statement to the Consolidated Fund and National Loans Fund Accounts for 1995-96 lists 47 quantified non-statutory contingent liabilities each worth over £100,000, with a total value of £12,992.6 million; other cases in the list are recorded as unquantifiable. Of the 47 quantified cases, 39 are over £1 million, worth £12,989.9 million and 36 over £2 million, worth £12,985.2 million.

The Treasury's proposals on contingent liabilities

  21. The Treasury notes that:

    —  contingent liabilities are fundamentally different from other types of expenditure in that they are uncertain, unlikely to fall to be paid until some time in the future—perhaps after the departure of a particular Minister and Accounting Officer—and sometimes so large that the Treasury would have no practical option but to bail out the department if the liability were realised. For reasons of strategic control, therefore, the Treasury is not proposing to pass full discretion in this area to departments;

    —  however, it would be cost effective to make some increase in the reporting threshold. If it was increased to £1 million, the number of cases reported would fall by some 17 per cent but the total value of the liabilities reported would fall by 0.05 per cent. With a £2 million reporting threshold, the figures would be 23 per cent and 0.09 per cent respectively.

  22. in the light of these considerations, and subject to the approval of the PAC, the Treasury proposes to increase from £100,000 to £2 million the threshold above which Treasury approval is required before departments may take on a new non-statutory contingent liability; to make a similar increase in the threshold for prior Parliamentary notification of such liabilities; and for recording these liabilities in the Supplementary Statements to the Consolidated Fund and National Loans Fund Accounts. A similar increase is also proposed for notifying Parliament of statutory liabilities in cases where no reporting procedures are specified in the relevant statute. Once resource accounting is in place, minimum disclosure requirements for contingent liabilities in departmental resource accounts will be driven by accounting standards as interpreted in the Government's resource accounting manual.

D. FEES AND CHARGES

  23. The Treasury provides the PAC with a statement once a year on the financial outturn on services where departments are responsible for setting the fees and charges and there is an accidental deficit and/or deliberate subsidy of £1 million or more. The statement supplements the Appropriation Accounts, which do not provide information about full cost recovery. The statement is intended to show progress in implementing full cost recovery policy and any other financial objectives for the relevant services. Services are included in the statement according to criteria from time to time agreed between the Committee and the Treasury from 1982 (when the reporting process began) to 1993.

  24. Typical examples of reportable subsidies (based on 1995-96 estimated outturns) include:

    —  a subsidy of £1.5 million to the Emergency Planning College;

    —  a deficit of £3.5 million incurred by the Youth Treatment Service.

  25. Each year the Comptroller and Auditor General provides the Committee with a note on the content of the statement. Under the criteria certain services are excluded, for instance services for which details are reported separately to Parliament in audited accruals accounts, such as those of most executive agencies; certain services where, for policy reasons, there is no direct link between costs and income, such as prescription charges; and services provided by one government body to another.

  26. Before 1993 subsidised services were reported when their annual cost exceeded £1 million and the subsidy represented 15 per cent or more of the full cost. Services with accidental deficits were reported where their cost was more than £100,000 and either there was an unintended deficit of over £100,000, representing at least 10 per cent of cost, or a deficit of any size was recorded for a second consecutive year.

  27. In 1993 the Committee agreed that these complicated arrangements should be replaced by the simpler requirement to report cases where the subsidy or deficit was £1 million or more in the financial year covered by the statement.

The Treasury's proposals on fees and charges

  28. The Treasury notes that:

    —  the fees and charges report of December 1996 to the PAC showed 26 services in 1995-96 with a total shortfall of £258 million. If the reporting threshold had been £2 million, the report would have covered 18 services with a total shortfall of £246 million. Thus about 95 per cent of the total shortfalls by value would still have been reportable but the detail would have been cut by about a third;

    —  the proposed change would allow more attention to be focused on those services with significant shortfalls;

    —  the objectives of achieving full cost recovery wherever practicable and of reporting to Parliament about the performance of services would be maintained.

  29. In the light of these considerations, and subject to the agreement of the Committee, the Treasury proposes to double the threshold to £2 million for the annual statements to the Committee, while leaving the other reporting criteria unchanged.

E. TREASURY MINUTES

  30. Departmental replies to the reports of the PAC require Treasury approval and are presented to Parliament as Treasury Minutes over the Financial Secretary's signature. The Treasury commissions replies and provides guidance to departments on these replies; comments on the form and the substance of the drafts; and publishes the responses in grouped Minutes.

  31. The arrangements reflect the Treasury's historical role in responding to the concerns of Parliament, through the Committee, over the need for the executive to observe the requirements of regularity, propriety good value for money.

The Treasury's proposal on Treasury Minutes

  32. The Treasury believes that:

    —  since departments themselves are the prime authors of the replies to the PAC it would be appropriate for departments to take explicit responsibility for these replies. The proposed arrangements would sharpen the accountability of individual departments to Parliament by aligning accountability with responsibility;

    —  as with departmental reports and other public statements, the Treasury's strategic interests in regard to these replies would be secured by the general requirement that departments should clear with the Treasury any proposed new policy statements with potential public expenditure consequences.

  33. In the light of these considerations, and subject to the approval of the Committee, the Treasury proposes to make departments fully responsible for Minutes to the PAC. Under this arrangements their departmental responses would be presented to Parliament under the signature of the departmental minister concerned. The Treasury would of course continue to reply to any PAC recommendations on the Treasury's own business.


 
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