Select Committee on Social Security Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum submitted by Helen Johnston, Acting Director, of the Combat Poverty Agency (Ireland) (SM 4)

1. INTRODUCTION

  I am delighted to be here today to talk about the Irish National Anti-Poverty Strategy. I hope that you will find the Irish experience interesting and informative, and that it will help you in your discussions. The National Anti-Poverty Strategy, referred to as NAPS, is a major initiative to tackle poverty and social exclusion in Ireland through co-ordinated action by all government departments and state agencies at national, regional and local level. The strategy puts the needs of the poor at the top of the national agenda and seeks to create the conditions to enable people to break out of the cycle of poverty.

2. THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NATIONAL ANTI-POVERTY STRATEGY

  By way of background, at the UN World Summit for Social Development in Copenhagen in March 1995, along with other governments, the Irish Government endorsed a programme of action aimed at not only eliminating absolute poverty in the developing world but also reducing overall poverty and inequalities everywhere.

  Arising from this commitment, the Irish Government approved the development of a National Anti-Poverty Strategy, by an Interdepartmental Policy Committee. This Committee was chaired by an Assistant Secretary in the Department of the Taoiseach (Prime Minister) and included representation by all but two Government Departments (Foreign Affairs and Defence) at a senior level, and key relevant state agencies, including the Combat Poverty Agency.

  The Committee set out a Programme of work for the development of the National Anti-Poverty Strategy. The first stage involved the preparation of an Overview Discussion Paper on the Nature and Extent of Poverty, Social Exclusion and Inequality in Ireland; the invitation of Submissions, through public advertisement, on what should be the focus of a national anti-poverty strategy; and a short discussion paper suggesting suitable institutional mechanisms for implementing a national anti-poverty strategy.

  These three documents formed the basis of a major consultation exercise. The information obtained from the consultation exercise assisted the Inter-departmental Policy Committee in identifying five key themes on which the Strategy subsequently concentrated. These were:

    —  educational disadvantage;

    —  unemployment, especially long-term unemployment;

    —  income adequacy;

    —  disadvantaged urban areas; and

    —  rural poverty.

  More than half of the submissions emphasised that addressing educational disadvantage was a key strategy in tackling poverty. A feature of the five themes is that they focus on the causes and consequences of poverty and cut across departmental boundaries. This "cross-cutting" element is seen as an important dimension of the NAPS and reflects and affirms the multi-dimensional nature of poverty.

  On identification of the key themes five Working Groups were established to prepare a strategic response with suggested policy actions. The Working Groups comprised departmental officials, social partners, relevant representative groups and members of community and voluntary groups involved in anti-poverty work.

  In the development of the NAPS a number of "transcending" principles have been adopted which underpin the overall Strategy. These principles are:

    —  ensuring equal access and encouraging participation for all;

    —  guaranteeing the rights of minorities especially through anti-discrimination measures;

    —  the reduction of inequalities and in particular, addressing the gender dimensions of poverty;

    —  the development of the partnership approach building on national and local partnership processes;

    —  actively involving the community and voluntary sector;

    —  encouraging self-reliance through respecting individual dignity and promoting empowerment; and


    —  engaging in appropriate consultative processes, especially with users of services.

  With a range of information available to them, which has been compiled through the various mechanisms described over a two year period, the Inter-departmental Policy Committee drew up the Irish National Anti-Poverty Strategy, which it entitled Sharing in Progress. The Strategy was launched on the 23 April 1997 by the then coalition government of three parties—Fine Gael, Labour and Democratic Left. The Strategy contains an agreed definition of poverty, a brief analysis of the causes of poverty and this most at risk and sets out a global target for poverty reduction and targets, objectives and actions under the five key themes as well as the structures and mechanisms required to implement the Strategy. The NAPS is set in a 10 year time-frame—1997 to 2007.

3. TARGETS IN THE NATIONAL ANTI-POVERTY STRATEGY

  The starting point here was agreeing on a definition of poverty. In the National Anti-Poverty Strategy a relative definition has been adopted and agreed. This definition is:

    People are living in poverty, if their income and resources (material, cultural and social) are so inadequate as to preclude them from having a standard of living which is regarded as acceptable by Irish society generally. As a result of inadequate income and resources people may be excluded and marginalised from participating in activities which are considered the norm for other people in society.

  A number of data sources have been used to measure poverty in Ireland. The main information base for the NAPS, however, is a national household income survey, called the Living in Ireland Survey, which was undertaken in 1994 by the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI). A particular feature of this survey is that it is the first year of a panel survey, so that the same households have been interviewed in 1995, 1996, 1997 and now in 1998. This will enable ongoing monitoring of the nature and extent of poverty on an ongoing basis.

  The major drawback of using this national household income survey to measure and monitor levels of poverty in Ireland is that it does not include people who are not living in private households such as many Travelling families, homeless people, people in Institutions, refugees etc. Some of these people are known from other evidence to have very high levels and risks of poverty, yet they are not included in this survey on which the overall measure is based.

  In the NAPS, using the Living in Ireland survey data, poverty is measured in two ways—using relative income levels and experience of deprivation. In relation to income, poverty lines are set at 50 per cent and 60 per cent of average household income—1994 money terms this was £64 for a single adult at the 50 per cent line and £77 per week at the 60 per cent line. (In 1998 terms this is £70 to £85 per week.) In 1994, between 21 per cent and 34 per cent of the Irish population fell below the 50 per cent and 60 per cent poverty lines respectively.

  Poverty was also measured using measures of deprivation. This is the extent to which someone is denied the opportunity to have or to do something that is considered the norm in society. The ESRI has constructed a list of basic deprivation items which includes things like not having adequate heating, going for a day without an adequate meal, being in arrears on mortgage, rent, electricity or gas, or not having a warm winter coat or two pairs of strong shoes.

  When low income and deprivation are combined it is argued that people who are persistently poor are identified. In the NAPS 9 per cent to 15 per cent of the Irish population are identified as being persistently poor.

  On the basis of the information collated by the Inter-departmental Committee, the consultation exercise and discussions by the Committee, the Committee decided that the focus of the National Anti-Poverty Strategy should be to reduce the numbers of those who are persistently poor as well as to ensure that others at risk of poverty do not fall into poverty.

  On this basis the NAPS global target was set:

    Over the period, 1997-2007, the National Anti-Poverty Strategy will aim at considerably reducing the numbers of those who are "persistently poor" from 9 per cent to 15 per cent to less than 5 per cent to 10 per cent, as measured by the ESRI.

  There was considerable discussion within the Committee as to where the target should be set, with some favouring halving the rate or more with others being more cautious. The outcome was to set the target at nearly, but not quite, halving levels of persistent poverty over a 10 year period.

  The Strategy also identified particular dimensions of poverty. These included:

    —  groups at risk of poverty on which NAPS initiatives should be targeted;

    —  the gender dimension of poverty;

    —  the main causes of poverty—identified as structural—unemployment, poor educational qualifications, impact and interaction of the tax and welfare systems;

    —  mediating influences—inequality, disability, allocation of resources within households, conflict;

    —  spatial distribution of poverty.

  These dimensions are to be addressed in implementing the strategy and working towards reduction of the global target.

  Targets were also set for each of the five key theme areas. The quality of these targets varies greatly, mainly depending on the information available to set and assess them.

  For tackling educational disadvantage the target is:

    To eliminate the problem of early school leaving before the junior certificate, and reduce early school leaving such that the percentage of those completing the senior cycle will increase to at least 90 per cent by the year 2000 and 98 per cent by the year 2007, and having regard to the assessment of their intrinsic abilities, that there are no students with serious literacy and numeracy problems in early primary education within the next five years.

  At the time the strategy was launched it was estimated that just over 3,000 young people left school before the Junior Certificate and completion rates to the end of senior cycle were about 82 per cent. Best estimates are that about 10 per cent of pupils do not acquire satisfactory levels of literacy and numeracy while at primary school. Information on school leaving is collected on a regular basis, so it should be possible to monitor these targets. However, information may be incomplete for the most disadvantaged young people. Also, in monitoring this target it needs to be recognised that simply retaining young people from disadvantaged backgrounds in the education system will not, in itself, remove inequality in educational outcome. The target, therefore, needs to be considered in terms of altering the relationship between educational outcome and social background.

  For reducing unemployment the target is:

    To reduce the rate of unemployment, as measured on an internationally standardised basis (ILO) by the Labour Force Survey, from 11.9 per cent in April, 1996 to 6 per cent by 2007; and to reduce the rate of long-term unemployment from 7 per cent to 3.5 per cent, with a particular focus on reducing the number of very long-term unemployed who are especially at risk of being consistently poor.

  At the time this taget was set there was considerable discussion on what measure of unemployment should be used—the Labour Force Survey, using the ILO definition or the PES definition, or the Live Register. There has been considerable debate on these issues generally in Ireland, particularly since there has been increasing variation between the different measures. There was also an emphasis on the need to reduce long-term unemployment as it is the long-term unemployed who are most at risk of poverty.

  Good progress is beig made, on this target mainly due to the current pace of economic growth in Ireland. In 1997 Irish unemployment had fallen to 10.3 per cent and long-term unemployment to 5.6 per cent. Current Irish macro-economic forecasts indicate that the current rate of employment growth alone will be enough to bring down the unemployment rate to 6 per cent over the 10-year period. Recently, the Government published an Employment Action Plan which aims to reduce unemployment to 7 per cent by 2000 and to 5 per cent within four to five years. The emphasis in the Employment Action Plan is on preventative measures, particularly for young people. The NAPS target will thus need to be reviewed in relation to the measures used to assess levels of unemployment and also to focus on the long-term unemployed, who are particularly at risk of being "persistently poor".

  In the other three theme areas the targets set are more aspirational and general.

  For improving income adequacy:

    Policy actions in relation to income adequacy will be targeted at contributing to the overall reduction in the percentage of the population whom the ERSI have identified as being consistently poor from nine to 15 per cent to less than five to 10 per cent over the period 1997 to 2007. All social welfare payments will be increased to the minimum of the lower range recommended by the Commission on Social Welfare.

  For reducing disadvantage in urban areas the target is:

    To reduce the numbers suffering the greatest deprivation in disadvantaged urban areas by increasing their standard of living and providing opportunities for participation, thus reducing the measured indicators of disadvantage in the area, especially the rate of unemployment and particularly long-term unemployment by 2007.

  For reducing rural poverty the overall target is:

    To ensure that strategies are developed with regard to the provision of services in rural areas, especially those concerned with educational disadvantage, unemployment and income adequacy, so that the overall targets of the NAPS are achieved in rural areas.

  The difficulty in setting more specific targets for these three key themes related to the dearth of specific information in these areas. There was also reluctance to include a target on child poverty on the income adequacy theme. This was unfortunate as Ireland currently has the second highest level of child poverty in Europe (after the UK).

  Comments on the targets post-publication of the Strategy included acknowledgements that for the first time clear measurable anti-poverty targets had been set and that mechanisms had been put in place to monitor, evaluate and report on progress. The National Economic and Social Forum[5] was given responsibility for reporting on progress in implementing the NAPS and the Combat Poverty Agency the task of overseeing an evaluation of the NAPS process, taking into account the views of the community and voluntary sector. At the same time commentators recognised that the targets were somewhat modest and in some areas unspecific.

4. IMPLEMENTING THE NAPS—THE FIRST YEAR

  It is now one year since the publication of the NAPS. During the last year there was a change of Government. A new coalition government comprising Fine Fail and the Progressive Democrats took up office in June 1997 and committed itself to implementing the National Anti-Poverty Strategy in full, saying that they aimed to achieve or exceed the targets contained in the NAPS 10-year strategy (1997-2007).

  To date, considerable progress has taken place on the establishment of institutional structures. A cabinet sub-committee on Social Inclusion, Drugs and Local Development, which includes responsibility for NAPS, has been established. This cabinet sub-committee is chaired by the Taoiseach (Prime Minister) and meets once a month. The Minister for Social, Community and Family Affairs has day-to-day responsibility for overseeing the strategy. The NAPS Inter-Departmental Policy Committee continues to meet on a quarterly basis. A NAPS Unit, headed by a Principal Officer and with four staff members has been established in the Department of Social, Community and Family Affairs to co-ordinate the implementation of the Strategy. NAPS Liaison Officers have been nominated in all relevant departments and a training programme for them is currently in preparation. A public education strategy is currently being developed and a monitoring and evaluation framework has been agreed. Departments are in the process of preparing baseline documents setting out initiatives to address poverty in their respective Departments and developing work plans, including the identification of cross-cutting initiatives.

  A potentially important initiative is the development of poverty and equality proofing guidelines. These are currently being progressed by the Inter-departmental Policy Committee, through the NAPS Unit and in conjunction with the Combat Poverty Agency and the Social Partners. Poverty proofing is the process by which government departments, local authorities and state agencies will assess policies and programmes at design and implementation stage in relation to the likely impact that they will have on poverty and inequalities which are likely to lead to poverty. Guidelines for implementing the poverty proofing procedures are in the process of being developed.

  However, progress on the implementation of specific actions has been slow. While recognising that in the implementation of a 10 year strategy it is important that policies and structures are put in place to reduce poverty over the longer term rather than "quick fix" short-term solutions, progress should be made, and be seen to be made, on honouring commitments in the Strategy. For example, the last Irish Budget was very disappointing in the priority it gave to tackling poverty. The Combat Poverty Agency undertook an analysis of the 1998 Budget in the context of the National Anti-Poverty Strategy and concluded that given the very favourable public finances and economic projections in Ireland the Budget fell far short of the reform needed to radically alter the lives of those who live in poverty. While the Budget was unprecedented in its generosity, much more could have been done to tackle poverty with the resources available. The most disappointing aspect of the Budget was its lack of strategic direction in progressing measures with a clear anti-poverty focus, with the net effect of widening the gap between rich and poor. This was a particularly disappointing outcome given this was the first Budget since the launch of the NAPS.

5. REFLECTIONS ON NAPS TO DATE

  In reflecting on the progress of NAPS to date important and significant points are:

    (i)  The fact that Ireland has a National Anti-Poverty Strategy.

    (ii)  The fact that the NAPS is an integrated strategy which sets out to address the underlying causes of poverty and social exclusion. The extent of poverty, its structural causes and the need for a multi-dimensional response has been formally recognised by Government.

    (iii)  That NAPS has withstood a change of Government.

    (iv)  NAPS has been linked with other public policy initiatives, which means that anti-poverty action will be at the forefront of policy and administrative development in the foreseeable future.

    (v)  For the first time, clear measurable anti-poverty targets have been set. Even though they may be seen to be modest they are something to aim for and there is a mechanism for their review.

    (vi)  The National Economic and Social Forum and the Combat Poverty Agency have key roles in monitoring and evaluating the Strategy. Importantly, this will ensure that this process is independent of the central administrative and political systems.

    (vii)  A range of institutional mechanisms, both political and administrative, have been put in place to ensure that poverty stays at the heart of the policy-making and administrative systems.

    (viii)  There is a commitment to the introduction of poverty/equality proofing mechanisms and progress has been made on developing guidelines.

  However, there are considerable challenges to full implementation of the NAPS and the overall reduction of poverty in Ireland. These include:

    (a)  The political commitment to putting the reduction of poverty at the top of the Government's agenda.

    (b)  Additional resources will be required to implement policies to substantially reduce poverty. Specified actions will thus have to have budget allocations, which may involve re-prioritisation of spending.

    (c)  Departments will have to make commitments in their work programmes to implement policies to reduce poverty and work on a collaborative basis to achieve this.

    (d)  Actions cited as social inclusion measures will need to be carefully defined, as it is clear that not all so-called social inclusion measures will necessarily prevent or reduce poverty.

    (e)  The involvement of the community and voluntary sector. Mechanisms have not yet been identified or put in place for this to take place. The Combat Poverty Agency has commissioned a study to examine international models of consultation and participation which, it is hoped, will inform the implementation of suitable structures in Ireland.

    (f)  The engagement of all the social partners in the implementation of NAPS by involving business, farming and trade union interests.

    (g)  Over the last year the main progress has been at a central level. It will be important that delivery of the Strategy is broadened out from central government to state agencies and local government.

    (h)  There is an ongoing need to raise public awareness about levels of poverty in Ireland and the need to tackle exclusion. A NAPS public education strategy will be important in publicising the need for, and the content of, the NAPS.

    (i)  It will be important that an independent and rigorous monitoring and evaluation process is put in place which will critically analyse progress on the implementation of NAPS and measure trends in poverty and inequality in Ireland. The Combat Poverty Agency will have a key role in this.

6. SETTING AND MONITORING TARGETS

  There are a number of observations which can be made about the setting and monitoring of targets.

  First, information on the current situation or baseline position is required; in Ireland this information was available in some areas, but limited in others and this is reflected in the targets.

  Second, a comprehensive and broad ranging strategy is required to address the multi-dimensional nature of poverty, but within this specific targets should be set.

  Third, consultation is required on the focus of the targets, objectives, policies and actions for anti-poverty policies, programmes and actions.

  Fourth, a commitment to monitoring is required. This should result in further data collection and consultation.

  Fifth, the aim should be to set targets which are ambitious but achievable, i.e. a balance is required.

  Sixth, a mechanism for ongoing review and the adjustment of targets is required.

  I see the benefits of setting targets as follows:

    —  an indication of political commitment to reducing levels of poverty;

    —  having a clear view and direction about what is to be achieved;

    —  transparency;

    —  they should provide an element of consensus on what the strategy sets out to achieve;

    —  they provide a stimulus to putting in place structures and policies to achieve the targets; and

    —  they should ensure ongoing monitoring of the implementation of the Strategy, through ongoing data collection and consultation.

  However, they may be a number of drawbacks to be guarded against. These include:

    —  that working towards and achieving the targets may not necessarily address the underlying structural inequalities in the system, therefore there is a continual need to keep your eye on the bigger picture and what you are ultimately trying to achieve;

    —  the targets may not be ambitious enough; therefore they need to be continually reviewed and adjusted, if necessary;

    —  measurement issues; for example, what should be measured and how best to make these measurements? What should be measured quantitatively and what should be measured qualitatively? Who should measure?

    —  there are a number of data demands in setting and monitoring the targets—this costs money and takes time;

    —  finally, there is a need to take into account the changing economic, political and social context and to adjust targets and policies accordingly.

7. CONCLUSIONS

  This has been a brief summary of the development and initially implementation of the Irish National Anti-Poverty Strategy. Personally, I believe this is a very significant development and if implemented with commitment, vigour, enthusiasm and adequate resources can really lead to substantial poverty reduction in Ireland. Ireland is in a very fortunate position at the moment with very strong economic growth and favourable demographics. Given this opportunity it is imperative that over the next few years real progress is made on fulfilling the commitments made in the NAPS. The monitoring of the Strategy through data collection and analysis will play a key role in ensuring that poverty is being reduced in Ireland. Ultimately, however, the NAPS will only be working when poverty has become the concern of all policy makers and agencies concerned with economic, social and cultural policies. Only then will NAPS be addressing the fundamental challenge which faces Ireland—to develop and adapt our existing model of development so that it reconciles economic growth and competitiveness with the promotion of social inclusion and equity.

16 June 1998

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