Select Committee on Social Security Minutes of Evidence



7. CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO PENSIONS LEGISLATION—CLAUSES 29 AND 30 AND SCHEDULES 4 AND 5

  The following comments relate to paragraphs of Schedule 4:

    21.  We have already commented that the amendments which apply revaluation of deferred pensions where the PCB involves the ex-spouse being credited with notional pensionable service will only work if there is a further amendment adapting the references to termination of pensionable service so that they will apply in the case of an ex-spouse.

    25.  We welcome this amendment preventing a member who has both rights under a scheme as an employee or ex-employee and pension credit rights from exercising his right to a cash equivalent in respect of the employment rights without exercising his right to transfer his pension credit rights.

    37.  We find it hard to envisage circumstances in which trustees would decide that a scheme should be closed to new active members but open to new PCB members. If they do, it seems they will be able to insist on external transfer—even if the scheme is unfunded? The relationship with Clause 10(2) (death before implementation) and paragraph 9 of Schedule 2 (reduced pension credit) needs to be considered here.

    38.  We note that the provisions of section 51 relating to LPI increases on pensions in payment will not apply to PCB members.

    40.  On the other hand, we note that the protection of section 67 will apply to the rights of PCB members.

    41.  Doesn't section 68(2) of the PA 1995 need to cover pension debits as well?

    42.  We assume that where a pension derived from a pension credit comes into payment under a scheme, it will have the same priority for the purposes of section 73 as any other pension in payment under the scheme.

    44 et seq  These seem to be substantive changes which are not directly relevant to pension sharing. Under section 91 at the moment the lien attaching to a member's benefit can attach to the contingent spouse's pension. It seems that under the proposed amendments to section 91 this may no longer be the case, the argument being that a spouse "has a right to a future pension under a scheme", whereas under section 91 at the moment the "accrued rights" are of the member not of the spouse.

    45(2)  We are puzzled by the distinction being drawn between "entitlement to a pension" and "right to a future pension". From the legal point of view an active or deferred member has as good an entitlement as a pensioner. Perhaps you should define what you mean by entitlement—this might help in interpreting s.67 PA 1995 as well.

    47.  It is noted that the effect of this amendment is that any reference to a "member" in the Pensions Act 1995 will include a PCB member, unless the particular section excludes such a member. We have already commented on the dangers of automatically including them wherever members are mentioned, especially if they are included in one Act but not in another. If they are to be included as "members" they should be expressly excluded from the definition of "deferred pensioners".


 
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