Select Committee on Standards and Privileges First Report


APPENDIX 57 - Continued

Extract from the Third Report of the Select Committee on Members' Interests 1989-90

APPENDICES TO THE REPORT

APPENDIX 1

Complaint by Mr Campbell-Savours MP against Mr Michael Grylls MP

  I wish to make a complaint concerning the failure by Mr Michael Grylls to register an introductory payment made to him by Mr Ian Greer of Ian Greer Associates and which was not registered at the appropriate time.

  We can deduce from the evidence given by Mr David Burnside during the course of the enquiry into Parliamentary Lobbying that Mr Grylls introduced British Airways to Ian Greer Associates as early as 1985. See Appendix A. I understand the payment was made in 1985 or 86. The date of registration of the payment was early October 1989, see Appendix B. This registration followed upon adverse publicity.

  My complain is that Mr Grylls failed to register a payment he received from Mr Ian Greer of Ian Greer Associates at the appropriate time.

Dale Campbell-Savours.

22 May 1990

[Appendix A was an extract from page 19 of the evidence published as HC 518-ii (1987-88). Appendix B was an extract from the Register of Members' Interests. Neither are reproduced here.]

APPENDIX 2

Correpondence with Mr Michael Grylls MP

Letter from the Registrar of Members' Interests to Mr Michael Grylls MP

  I have received a complaint in respect of alleged non-declaration of interest from Mr Dale Campbell-Savours. Under the procedure agreed by the House I am required to notify you of the terms of the complaint. I therefore enclose his letter.

  The procedure is that:

  (1)   Any allegation by one Member against another Member relating to the Register or to the disclosure of interests, shall be in writing to the Registrar, who shall refer the matter to the Select Committee and shall furnish to the Member concerned details of the allegation.


  (2)   The Select Committee may hear both Members, together with other evidence, as they think fit and may then make a Report to the House together with a recommendation as to what action should be taken. Before making any such Report the Committee shall give the Member concerned the opportunity to make written representations and of being heard with such witnesses as he may desire to call.

  I am sending the complaint to the Committee. I will let you know of any decision they make in respect of further proceeding.

Registrar of Members' Interests

23 May 1990

Letter from Mr Michael Grylls MP to the Registrar

  Thank you for sending me a copy of Mr Campbell-Savours' letter. However, I was surprised to read his letter since I have, to the best of my knowledge, always registered the appropriate interests in accordance with the Resolutions of the House and the specific requirements laid down by the Select Committee on Members' Interests.

  As far as Ian Greer Associates is concerned, an interest has been registered in the relevant years, that is 1985-86, 1986-87 and 1989-90. I hope this will answer Mr Campbell-Savours' complaint.

  I enclose copies of the annual Registers showing where Ian Greer's name has been added in the appropriate year:

Published Register, 9 January 1985

GRYLLS, Michael (North West Surrey)

1. Directorships Carbone Limited
Vosper Limited
2. Employment or Office Consultant to the Sterling Winthrop Group
Consultant to Digital Equipment Company Limited
Leader of Parliamentary Panel for Institute of Directors
Consultant to Association of Authorised Public Accountants
Consultant to London Equitable Estates Co Ltd
Consultant to Grindlays Bank plc
*Adviser to the United States Unitary Tax Campaign

Published Register, 13 January 1986

GRYLLS, Michael (North West Surrey)

1. Directorships Le Carbone Ltd
Vosper Limited
2. Employment or Office Consultant to the Sterling Winthrop Group
Consultant to Digital Equipment Company Limited
Honorary Leader of Parliamentary Panel for Institute of Directors
Consultant to Association of Authorised Public Accountants
Consultant to London Equitable Estates Co Ltd
Consultant to Grindlays Bank plc
Consultant to Biwater Group Ltd
*Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign (I Greer Associates)

Published Register, 27 January 1987

GRYLLS, Michael (North West Surrey)

1. Directorships Le Carbone Limited
2. Employment or OfficeConsultant to the Sterling Winthrop Group
Consultant to Digital Equipment Company Limited
Honorary Leader of Parliamentary Panel for Institute of Directors
Consultant to Association of Authorised Public Accountants
Consultant to London Equitable Estates Co Ltd
Consultant to Grindlays Bank plc
Consultant to Biwater Group Ltd
*Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign
Consultant to Humphreys and Glasgow Ltd
Adviser to Omec International
6. Overseas VisitsFebruary 1986, to Japan and Hong Kong at the invitation of JETRO and the Government of Hong Kong

Published Register, 8 December 1987

GRYLLS, Michael (North West Surrey)

1. DirectorshipsLe Carbone Lorraine (GB) Limited
Sterling Winthrop Group Ltd
2. Employment or OfficeConsultant to Digital Equipment Company Limited
Consultant to Association of Authorised Public Accountants
Consultant to Biwater Group Ltd
*Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign
Consultant to Humphreys and Glasgow Ltd
Adviser to Omec International
Consultant to Harlingspear Ltd

Published Register, 10 January 1989
GRYLLS, Michael (North West Surrey)

1. DirectorshipsLe Carbone Lorraine (GB) Ltd
Sterling Winthrop Group Ltd
Chysauster Homes Ltd (from 1 November 1988)
2. Employment or OfficeConsultant to Digital Equipment Company Limited
Consultant to Association of Authorised Public Accountants
Consultant to Biwater Group Ltd
*Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign
Consultant to Humphreys and Glasgow Ltd
Adviser to Omec International
Consultant to Harlingspear Ltd
Published Register, 8 January 1990
GRYLLS, Michael (North West Surrey)

1. Directorships Le Carbone Lorraine (GB) Ltd
Sterling Winthrop Group Ltd
Chysauster Homes Ltd (from 1 November 1988)
2. Employment or Office    Consultant to Digital Equipment Company Limited
Consultant to Association of Authorised Public Accountants
Consultant to Biwater Group Ltd
*Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign
Consultant to Humphreys and Glasgow Ltd
Adviser to Omec International (a member of the Porton International Group)
Consultant to Harlingspear Ltd
Consultant to Pittard Garnar PLC
Consultant to Doctus PLC
Consultant to Allied Partnership Group PLC
4. Clients *Ian Greer Associates

6 June 1990

Letter from the Registrar to Mr Michael Grylls MP

Select Committee on Members' Interests

  The Committee considered your reply of 6 June to Mr Campbell-Savours' complaint at yesterday's meeting.

  They have directed me to ask you three questions which they would be grateful if you would answer in writing.

    1.   In respect of what services were the payments made?
    2.   What were the dates of the payments?
    3.   Were the payments connected with the Unitary Tax Campaign?

Registrar and Clerk of the Committee

7 June 1990

Letter from Mr Michael Grylls MP to the Registrar

  Thank you for your letter of 7 June.

  In answer to your questions:

  1. On three occasions, friends of mine who were Chairmen of Companies, approached me for help as they said they needed advice. Because I knew how effective Ian Greer Associates (IGA) were with the Unitary Tax Campaign (UTC), I suggested Mr Greer might be able to help them. In each instance, they decided to retain the services of IGA and I was subsequently offered and accepted a "one-off" payment for these introductions by Mr Greer.

  At no time did I have any responsibility whatsoever for these people or their companies or to IGA either as an individual or as a Member of Parliament.

  2. The payments were made on the 1 November 1985, 14 May 1986, and 3 October 1989.

  3. The payments were not connected with the UTC although the name of IGA is beside that entry.

  I am neither a Director nor Consultant to IGA but I would like the Members of the Select Committee to know that so far as I was concerned the name of IGA has been entered in the Register from 1985. Therefore, it was there - on record - for all to see, that I had a declared connection (through the UTC) with Mr Greer. I have never sought to hide this connection. I thought that was adequate declaration of interest for the years 1985 and 1986 to cover the "one-off" payments from him.

  I believe all my entries over the years, which have included the mention of IGA, have been made in good faith and in keeping with the Resolutions of the House as well as the Rules laid down by the Select Committee, which I understand did leave a degree of discretion to Members as to how they declared their varying interests. (HC 1974-75, HC 102, paragraph 12).

  The Select Committee has itself said in its Report 1989-90 a "different Member may well, in good faith, interpret the rules somewhat differently." For this reason, I consulted the Registrar as to how best I should register IGA in 1989 so there could be no area for doubt. It was decided that as there was no specific category in the Register for "one-off" payments, that category 4 (as opposed to category 2) appeared to be the most appropriate place to register IGA. Although, if one is being analytical, to describe IGA as a "Client" is not an accurate description, as it implies a contractual arrangement. Whereas that is not the basis of my connection (through the UTC) with IGA. My "one-off" payments were unexpected and spasmodic and may not necessarily happen again.

  The Select Committee might care to consider creating a new category of interests marked "one-off payments". This would avoid any repetition of the misunderstanding, confusion and doubt which, I gather, is shared by other colleagues; and which must, I imagine, have been the reason for your circular letter to Members on the subject of "one-off" payments in December 1989.*   I hope this clarifies my entries to the Select Committee, and that this will be helpful in considering Mr Campbell-Savours' letter.

14 June 1990

Enclosures Accompanying Mr Grylls's Letter

*REGISTER OF MEMBERS' INTERESTS: LETTER TO MEMBERS FROM THE REGISTRAR

  A further edition of the Register of Members' Interests for the present Parliament, as it stands at the end of the Christmas recess, will be published early next year.

  I attach a copy of your present entry: if you wish to amend it I would be grateful if you would let me know.

  Any overseas visits and single gifts contained in your current entry which were published in the previous edition of the Register (January 1989) will not appear in the new edition.

  I attach a copy of the rules relating to registration.

  I have received a number of inquiries recently about commission payments. The rules do not differentiate between single and continuing benefits. As a general rule single payments, such as commissions received for introductions or other services, should be registered (under the category most appropriate to the circumstances) where such payments relate in any way to Membership of the House. (Members are not required to declare the amount of any remuneration). I will be very pleased to advise Members in respect of any particular case.

  *(Mr Greer) May I endeavour to answer the points that you raise. First, you have said that I feel that registration should have taken place. If I may with respect remind you of the conversation that we had before Christmas, you said to me that there was no need for a Member to register such a payment and, indeed, you did not know what category such a payment would be registered under.*

*This extract is part of an answer given to Mr Campbell-Savours and appears as Question 1731 in Minutes of Evidence given by Mr Ian Greer on 3 April 1990 (HC 389-i).

APPENDIX 3

Mr Grylls' entries in the Register from 1984 onwards relating to IGA and the Unitary Tax Campaign

Memorandum prepared by the Registrar at the request of the Committee

  All entries up to 1989 under "Employment or Office", at the end of a list of consultancies.

Annual Register February 1984: No reference to Ian Greer Associates.

Unpublished Registers:

    April 1984: Registered as "Adviser to the United States Unitary Tax Campaign".

Annual Register January 1985: "Adviser to the United States Unitary Tax Campaign".

Unpublished Registers:

    December 1985: (prior to the publication of the Register) changed to: "Adviser to the United States Unitary Tax Campaign (I Greer Associates)".

Annual Register January 1986: "Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign (I Greer Associates)".

Unpublished Registers:

    March 1986: changed to "Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign and Ian Greer Associates".

    December 1986: changed back to "Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign (I Greer Associates)".

Annual Register January 1987: "Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign (I Greer Associates)".

Published Register December 1987 (New Parliament):   "Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign (I Greer Associates)".

Unpublished Register:

    December 1987: Mr Greer notifies the office that "(I Greer Associates)" no longer applies.

Annual Register January 1989: "Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign".

Unpublished Register 20 October 1989: Ian Greer added as a client under Category 4.

Annual Register 1990: Both entries appear.

ANNEX D

Item: 1

ACCESSION NUMBER1025114517
GROUPPQ
TYPEWPQ
DISPLAY DATE24.07.87
REFERENCE120 c549w; 120 c551w
SESSION1987-88
CORPORATE AUTHORDept of Trade and Industry
MEMBERGrylls/Michael; Clarke/Kenneth
DESCRIPTION What information has been received from British Caledonian about alternative options for its future with particular reference to a possible bid by a foreign airline - None
SUB INDEX TERMTakeovers/sc
ORGANISATIONSBritish Caledonian Airways


Item: 2

ACCESSION NUMBER     1025245618
GROUPPQ
TYPEPNQ
DISPLAY DATE16.07.87
REFERENCE119 c1276-7; 119 c1280-1
SESSION1987-88
CORPORATE AUTHORDept of Trade and Industry
MEMBERGrylls/Michael; Clarke/Kenneth
DESCRIPTION Supplementary on relevance of size of airlines to case for merger between British Airways and British Caledonian.

ANNEX E

Extract from Hansard of House of Commons of 16 July 1987


British Airways/British Caledonian (Merger)

  Mr Michael Grylls (Surrey, North-West): If the Government have to consider this case later on, will my right hon. and learned Friend bear in mind that British Airways is not all that large in international terms? It has to compete with sizeable airlines overseas, many of which are much bigger than British Airways. Although we want to see as much competition as possible in Britain, probably on the domestic routes, an airline must be large to compete overseas. Perhaps British Caledonian is not big enough to compete on the international routes and that may be a very good reason for allowing this merger to go ahead. Presumably those factors will be taken into account.

  Mr Clarke: My hon. Friend's arguments are extremely relevant. It is obvious that there will be a variety of opinions and submissions on this matter. Those opinions and submissions are best made, at this stage, to the Director General of Fair Trading. He will give his advice upon a bid by one private company to suggest a merger with another private company. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State will take his decision about whether to refer this proposed merger to the Monopolies and Mergers Commission when he has had a chance to reflect upon the advice of the director general, who will listen to all the competing arguments. That is the only stage we have reached to date.

ANNEX F

Item: 53


ACCESSION NUMBER     1019281497
GROUPP
TYPECH
DISPLAY DATE14.07.88
REFERENCE137 c609; 137 c615
SESSION87/88
MEMBERGrylls/ Michael
DESCRIPTION Statement on Rover Group, announcing British Aerospace acceptance of EC terms governing state aid and other conditions.

Item: 61

ACCESSION NUMBER1021034645
GROUPP
TYPECH
DISPLAY DATE29.03.88
SESSION87/88
MEMBERGrylls/ Michael
DESCRIPTION Statement on sale to British Aerospace of Govt shareholding in Rover Group.

Item: 64

ACCESSION NUMBER1021493339
GROUPP
TYPECH
DISPLAY01.03.88
REFERENCE128 c819; 128 c821
SESSION87/88
MEMBERGrylls/ Michael
DESCRIPTIONStatement on interest expressed by British Aerospace in acquiring Government shareholding in Rover Group.

ANNEX G

Register of Members' Interests on 14 January 1991

GRYLLS, Michael (North West Surrey).

1. Directorships

          Le Carbone Lorraine (GB) Ltd.
          Sterling Winthrop Group Ltd.
          Chysauster Homes Ltd (from 1 November 1988).
          C T Oil and Gas PLC (from June 1990).
          Small Business Bureau Ltd (non-remunerated) (from June 1990).
          Cape PLC.

2. Employment or Office

          Consultant to Digital Equipment Company Limited.
          Consultant to Association of Authorised Public Accountants.
          Consultant to Biwater Group Ltd.
          Adviser to the Unitary Tax Campaign.
          Consultant to Humphreys and Glasgow Ltd.
          Consultant to Harlingspear Ltd.
          Consultant to Pittard Garnar PLC.
          Consultant to Doctus PLC.
          Consultant to Allied Partnership Group PLC.
          Consultant to Freight Complex Development and Management Ltd.

4. Clients

          Ian Greer Associates.
          Soil Structures International Ltd.
  

6. Overseas Visits

          February/March 1990, to South Africa as a guest of the Chamber of Mines.

          Member of Parliamentary groups visits to Atlanta and Rio de Janeiro and also to Japan with trade delegation for smaller firms, 1988, as guest of British Airways.



 
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