Select Committee on Standards and Privileges Eleventh Report


ANNEX B

Letter to the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards from Mr Howard Flight MP

  Thank you for your letter of 22 December, which I have received on my return to London this week.

  First of all, my understanding was, per Madam Speaker's response to Mr Barnes's first point of order, that the custom of the House was that Members did not declare an interest during Prime Minister's Question Time, when asking a supplementary question. If I am mistaken here, please accept my apologies; but I also feel the relevant rules should be clarified if a declaration of interest at PMQ is required.

  Otherwise, when speaking or asking a question on matters related to the Investment Management Industry I have to date declared an interest, either verbally or when tabling a question.

  In both his second point of order and letter to you, I consider Mr Barnes mistaken in alleging that the advocacy rule was relevant to the points which I raised in my supplementary question, having regard to the definition of the advocacy rules in Section 3 and the principles behind them. The three general points I raised in my supplementary question to the Prime Minister concerning the ISA proposals, as set out in the Inland Revenue consultative document, were not specifically or directly relevant to Guinness Flight Hambro or its clients: viz the unhappiness of many of the seven million PEP and TESSA investors with the proposed £50,000 limit on the amount of their existing PEP and TESSA investments which they will be able to roll over under the new ISA proposals; the problem that unless the present regulatory arrangements are changed, it will not be possible to regulate a mixture of cash, insurance product and security investments together, as they have separate regulatory regimes and rules for the three different asset classes; and that ISAs offer nothing to lower income groups which could not also have been provided under the existing PEP and TESSA structures.

  I am not entirely clear as to the meaning of the last sentence in Mr Barnes's second point of order - "he has clearly been involved in advocacy on behalf of those bodies (ie Guinness Flight Hambro companies) because PEPs and ISAs are in direct opposition to their interest". Guinness Flight is a PEP manager and, along with all other Investment Management businesses who are PEP managers, should become an ISA manager, once the new ISA arrangements are finalised and in place. Guinness Flight Hambro is not a TESSA manager, but under the ISA proposals Guinness Flight could, in principle, as an ISA manager, provide an ISA cash Fund, investment option. The new ISA arrangements, when they are finalised, are likely to have little or no net effect on Investment Managers such as Guinness Flight Hambro (ie compared with the present PEP and TESSA regime).

  By analogy, under Mr Barnes's interpretation of the advocacy rule, a Member who is a practising Chartered Accountant could not initiate any Parliamentary proceeding relating to any fiscal matters, nor could any other Member employed as a professional in another walk of life raise matters in Parliament of general relevance to their particular area. The inclusion of the words "specifically and directly" in Section 3 58,1, make it clear that such is not the intent.

  To conclude, other than when asking a supplementary question at Prime Minister's Question Time, where per Madam Speaker's response to Mr Barnes, I had understood that Members did not declare an interest, I would otherwise have declared an interest, ie as relevant to the Investment Management industry: otherwise I do not think that the three general points I raised in my supplementary question at all amounted to advocacy as defined in the rules.

8 January 1998


 
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