Select Committee on Welsh Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum from the Welsh Office

ORGANISATION AND MANAGEMENT

Departmental Report

  1. Do you intend to publish a supplement to the Departmental Report, showing finalised objectives, once the Comprehensive Spending Review is completed?

  The finalised aims and objectives of the Welsh Office will be published in due course, although the precise arrangements have yet to be determined.

  2. Do you expect to continue to produce an Annual Departmental Report to Parliament once the Assembly is established? What form will this take?

  Clause 88 of the Government of Wales Bill states that the Assembly will, before the beginning of each financial year, make a written statement showing the total amount of the expenditure which it proposes to incur for that year, and on what it proposes to incur that expenditure. This will be equivalent to the Departmental Report; the precise format will be for the Assembly to determine. The report will be a published document. The Secretary of State will, as now, be required to lay his Departmental Report before Parliament in accordance with the usual Treasury conventions.

  3. What is the difference in purpose between the Departmental Report and the proposed Corporate Plan (1.08)? When will the Corporate Plan be published, and what is it costing to produce?

  The Departmental Report provides information to Parliament on the Department's achievements and expenditure plans in a way which can be tracked year on year. The Corporate Plan, which is a new item, will provide the Department itself with:

    —  an overview of the objectives and targets it has adopted for the medium term, both in terms of policies and programmes and in terms of its internal management objectives

    —  linked to that, an overview of how the Department is deploying its resources to achieve the objectives.

COST

  The Corporate Plan is being produced internally, without additional resources, drawing on work elsewhere such as the Comprehensive Spending Review and the draft economic strategy for Wales.

PUBLICATION

  At present it is still being drafted, but it is certainly my intention to make an up to date version, taking account of the outcome of the Comprehensive Spending Review and the next Internal Review, generally available in February or March 1999. This is because I think it will be useful for the Assembly—not as a blueprint, but as a starting point to help it consider what its own future priorities and objectives should be, and how it might achieve them.

OBJECTIVES AND TARGETS

  4. A note on the Department's policy on objectives and targets would be helpful. In particular:

    (b)  Is it the intention that targets should be achieved or just aspired to? What are the consequences of failure to achieve targets?

    (c)  How are performance data to be verified?

    (d)  Who is responsible for setting and verifying objectives for agencies and NDPBs? Why have some not supplied targets for 1998-99 for inclusion in the Departmental Report?

  Following the General Election it was obvious that the Department needed a new set of aims and objectives reflecting the priorities which I and my Ministers arrived with and what we wanted to achieve. By July 1997 we had discussed them and agreed them as a Ministerial team. Since then they have been polished up by officials, who have also identified key indicators and targets relating to them. This information has been supplied to the Treasury as a required element of the CSR, but it has also become an integral part of the Department's normal planning process.

  The targets are intended to be challenging but achievable, as all good targets should be.

  It remains to be seen whether any of the targets will fail to be met, but the consequences would depend on the underlying reason.

  The targets are also measurable; and they focus as firmly as possible on the actual outcomes achieved, rather than whether we have just kept ourselves busy, so that they can be verified.

  The targets for our sole Welsh agency, Cadw, are agreed with me. Those for executive NDPBs are discussed with their sponsor divisions in the Department and again, submitted to me for approval. Since NDPB plans may be complex and substantial it is not always possible to agree updated targets before the Departmental Report goes to the publishers.

  Cadw has to report on performance in its own Annual Report and sponsor divisions monitor performance in NDPBs.

RESOURCE ACCOUNTING AND BUDGETING

  5. A note describing progress in implementing resource accounting and budgeting would be helpful. In particular:

  The Department has produced "practice" accounts since the 1995-96 financial year, continually improving the format and content and will be producing similar accounts for 1997-98. The `practice' resource accounts have been reviewed by the National Audit Office.

    (b)  Have you systems now in place for producing full audited accounts for 1997-98?

  Accounting systems have been introduced and/or enhanced over the last few years. The only system that remains to be introduced is one that records grant creditors; this is expected to be in place for March 1999. The 1997-98 practice accounts will be the last of their type; full audited accounts are to be prepared for the first time for the 1998-99 accounts.

    (c)  What do you now estimate the costs of implementing resource accounting and budgeting to be?

  The estimated cost of implementing Resource Accounting from 1 April 1993 to 31 March 2001 (the latter date being the end of the financial year for producing the 1999-2000 accounts, the first set of accounts to be audited and published) and the initial development work on Resource Budgeting to the same date is of the order of £1.5 million. Further detailed work on developing and implementing Resource Budgeting has still to take place and will involve all areas of the Department. This could add up to another £0.5 million between now and 2000-2001. The transfer of functions to the National Assembly for Wales may have implications for these costs.

    (d)  What advantages and disadvantages have you identified so far?

  The advantages identified are:

    —  Potential for improved cash management;

    —  Better control over fixed assets;

    —  Improved control of stock;

    —  Greater emphasis on outputs, rather than inputs;

    —  Clearer picture of Department's financial position; and

    —  Potential for maximising use of budgets within and across years.

  The disadvantages identified are:

    —  Greater cost of gathering additional information required and maintaining systems;

    —  At present a more limited internal and external knowledge of accrual accounting and thus lower level of understanding than for cash accounts (this will be addressed through training); and

    —  Potentially complex Resource Budgeting requirements with cash and budgetary controls (still under consideration with Treasury).

    (e)  What have been the implications for management?

  There have been a number of changes resulting from the advent of resource accounting and budgeting:

    —  Managers have had to produce extra information for inclusion in the accounts, for example—asset details, stock levels, prepayments and accruals, staffing details. This has meant greater attention to these aspects for all level of managers, ensuring that all these systems are up-to-date, accurate and that value for money is being obtained.

    —  Managers are developing systems to apportion their time and costs to Objectives and further developing information on targets and outputs. The full cost of the Department's Objectives will be shown in the annual accounts, along with the previous year's outturn for comparability. Supporting the Objectives will be an Output and Performance Analysis which details the Targets which demonstrate the achievement of the Objectives. Senior managers will be responsible for and report on these each year.

    —  There has been a steep learning curve on this initiative, particularly with resource budgeting. The latter element will continue over the next two years and will have the largest implications for managers as they come to terms with monitoring budgets on a resource (accrual) basis. A pilot study on how this new system will actually work is to start this summer.

ESTIMATES

  6. What are the implications for the Estimates and Vote structure of (a) resource accounting and budgeting and (b) devolution? (A "mock-up" would be helpful.)

  We anticipate a simplified Estimate and Vote Structure for the Secretary of State and the Welsh Assembly; the details are still being worked on.

CAPITAL EXPENDITURE AND THE PRIVATE FINANCE INITIATIVE

  7. What is the planned decrease in total capital expenditure for 1998-99? To what extent will this be offset by PFI investment?

  Between 1997-98 and 1998-99, capital plans will reduce by about £64 million.

  Assuming that projects are signed on time, some £233 million of investment is expected to

result from PFI deals secured during 1998-99.

  8. A consolidated list of all of the Department's current PFI projects would be helpful, showing the capital value of the assets and total and current expenditure commitments. Details of the six "pathfinder" local authority PFI projects (paragraph 7.17) would also be helpful.

Private Finance Initiative: Welsh Office Projects 1

Project
promoter
Project
description
Capital
value
£ million
Current
position
Contract
length
(years)
Current
expenditure
Glan Hafren NHS TrustChepstow Community Hospital 6Contract signed 13 February 1998 250.3 in 1998-99 rising to 1.3 in 2001-2002 and thereafter 1.3 for each year of contract
Nevill Hall and
District NHS Trust
Nevill Hall Day Surgery2.6 Contract expected to be signed shortly25
Glan-Y-Mor NHS TrustBaglan Local General Hospital 53Trust proceeding to best and final offer in May with 2 bidders and will then select a preferred bidder 25
CBDCBute Avenue45 Heads of agreement signed 28 April 1998 25
Welsh OfficeA55132 DBFO tenders received 15 April 199830
Welsh OfficeOSIRIS29.5 Project being implemented7 4.4 in 1998-99 and thereafter 4.4 for each year of contract
East Glamorgan NHS TrustStaff residences 2.5
Cardiff Community
Healthcare Trust
Neighbourhood Hospital15.5 Shortlist of 3 bidders identified
UHW CardiffSterile Services Awaiting outcome of NHS PFI review

1 A number of lower value contract energy management PFI schemes have been secured by NHS Trusts under local delegated authority

Private Finance Initiative: Local Authority Pathfinder Projects

Project
promoter
Project
description
Capital
value
£ million
Current
position
Wrexham County Borough CouncilWaste Management 25Assessing ITN bids
Ceredigion County CouncilNew School
(Welsh-medium Comprehensive)
11.7Expressions of interest received 17 April
Pembrokeshire County CouncilNew Primary School,
offices
school 3.5
offices 1.5
Advisors appointed.
Draft marketing brief prepared
Denbighshire County CouncilCounty Council Office Accommodation 6.4Advisors appointed
Newport County Borough CouncilSouthern Distributor Road (SDR) 22.1Design and planning well advanced. Advisors about to be appointed
Blaenau Gwent County CouncilNew primary school Withdrawn. Being funded conventionally

  9. A note on the £6 million contract for a community hospital at Chepstow (paragraph 8.28) would be appreciated. In particular:

  The annual and total contract payments are linked to the use of the hospital. The payment is for all non-clinical services including the building. There are two main payment elements:

      (i)  The availability of services; and

      (ii)  The performance of services. The annual service figure , which will rise to £1.3 million under the contract, is the maximum payable and the theoretical minimum is nil. There is no baseline payment.

    (b)  What happens to the hospital at the end of the contract?

  At the end of the contract there are several possibilities. The Trust is procuring services only and at the end of the contract may walk away from this deal and re-procure services elsewhere—the hospital will belong to the consortium. They may re-negotiate this contract or they may buy the Hospital. The District Valuer's prices will inform any new negotiations.

    (c)  Is £6 million the value of the asset once completed or the sum of the contract payments?

  The £6 million figure quoted is the Public Sector Comparator figure used in the Business Case procedures. The capital value of the hospital as it is built by the private sector, will be approximately £10 million. The sum of the service payments will be approx. £30 million over the life of the contract.

    (d)  Are these terms similar to other PFI contracts entered into by the Welsh Office?

  This is the first PFI contract for hospital services that the NHS in Wales has entered into. There are, of course, smaller specialised deals in areas such as Contract Energy Management and car parking but, other than they also purchase a service, there are few similarities.

  10. What are the other contracts, worth £340 million in total, which are under consideration?

  Please see answer to question 8.


 
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