Select Committee on Welsh Affairs Minutes of Evidence


APPENDIX

Supplementary Memorandum from the Welsh Office

[References to Qs are to the oral evidence; references to As are to the answers to the written questions]

ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS

  51. (See Qq 13-16) Please provide a breakdown of the £86.4 million planned expenditure on Central Administration in 1998-99 (Table 1.02).

    (a)  Does this include the £17.3 million capital, as well as the £0.5 million current, expenditure on devolution (Table 1.03)? How do these figures relate to the £2.3 million mentioned in Q 13?

    (b)  What is the reason for the increase in expenditure on Central Administration, over and above the provision for devolution?

  The £86.4 million is made up as follows:

    (includes £3.6 million capital)
    Devolution costs—capital £17.3 million
    Devolution costs—current £ 0.5 million
          £86.4 million

  The £2.3 million is included in the £68.6 million Welsh Office running costs. It was approved by the Treasury and for devolution related running costs and is in addition to the £17.8 million. Devolution apart, central administration expenditure has decreased and this is shown clearly in Table 1.03 of Departmental Report.

LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURE/SCHOOLS

  52/53. (See Qq 29-32) Please explain why it is not possible to provide in the Departmental Report details of planned local authority expenditure for the current year. How much was spent on schools, in total, in 1997-98, and how much is planned to be spent in 1998-99? Why is this not shown in the Departmental Report?

  The bulk of resources for local authorities is distributed by formula as a Standard Spending Assessment (SSA) for each local authority. SSAs represent the Secretary of State's judgement about the level of expenditure each authority needs to incur to provide a standard level of service. It is the responsibility of individual authorities to determine the actual level of overall expenditure and to determine how resources are allocated. Because of this the Departmental Report is not, at the time of publication, able to include actual expenditure data as it is not available to the Department at that time. However, the Departmental Report does include the amount set for local authority revenue services (total standard spending TSS) and for 1998-99 this is set at £3,090.5 million (Chapter 7, paragraph 7.06).

NHS RECONFIGURATION

  54. (See Q 42) Please clarify when the full savings from Trust reconfiguration are expected to be achieved, and what will be the transitional costs in the meantime.

  Initial estimates by each of the project teams established to manage consultation and early transitional arrangements are that the full annual savings of in excess of £7 million will be achieved by year 3, i.e. 2001-2002. Similarly, they estimate the transitional costs to be approximately £12 million, most of which will be incurred in year 1, i.e. 1999-2000. Each project team is producing detailed financial commentaries which will be assessed by the Welsh Office and independent assessors. These will be available before any final decisions are taken on reconfiguration proposals.

TEC-FUNDED TRAINING AND ENTERPRISE PROGRAMMES

  55. (Qq 45-47) Please provide a note (in confidence if necessary) on planned expenditure on TEC-funded programmes.

TEC FUNDED TRAINING

TRAINING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE

  Some £61.4 million—virtually half of the all-Wales training and enterprise budget—will be available to train young people. This will build on the success of Modern Apprenticeships; help the introduction of the new National Traineeships; and assist disadvantaged young people to enter, or return to, work, training or education.

  Provision has been made for a further 4,500 Modern Apprenticeships and for around 7,800 National Traineeships. In total the number of young people expected to start on the programme is around 22,700, compared with 21,700 in 1997-98.

  New funding arrangements are being introduced for Modern Apprenticeships and National Traineeships to replace the previous system, which was based predominantly on the number of weeks spent in training. Instead, TECs will be paid for starts, progress, and achievement of qualifications-in essence, payment by results. The technical adjustment to reflect this new method of funding means that, for 1998-99 only, it will be possible to maintain broadly the same volume of activity at lower cost—hence the small reduction (3.2 per cent) in planned expenditure compared with 1997-98. Costs in future years will be correspondingly greater.

WORK BASED TRAINING FOR ADULTS

  The level of provision for adult training has been reduced by £7.2 million (31.9 per cent) by comparison with planned provision in 1997-98. However, it is important that the level of spending for 1998-99 is set in context. Firstly, there is the welcome fall in unemployment—down by over 16 per cent over the past year. Then, there is the range of measures to help unemployed people under the New Deal—under which the Government expects to spend around £25 to £30 million in Wales in the current year, dependent on demand. The New Deal for 18-24 year-olds guarantees opportunities for young people who have been unemployed for 6 months or more, all of which will involve training or education. The adult training programme has therefore been refocused on the over-25 client group.

  Some of this client group (those unemployed for 2 years or more) will also be able to access opportunities for subsidised employment and full time education or training under the New Deal for the over-25s. Around 6,000 people are expected to start on the programme, compared to the 8,400 planned for 1997-98.

  Funding for the New Deal, including follow-through training for those who need further help to secure employment following completion of their options, will be provided by the Employment Service (ES), separately and in addition to provision made available by the Welsh Office for youth and adult training. ES are confident that they will be able to secure high quality training provision in Wales, drawing on the existing training infrastructure. They are in fact well advanced in agreeing contracts. Most of the TECs in Wales will be playing a key role in facilitating the delivery of training under the New Deal in Wales.

EDUCATION BUSINESS LINKS

  Although there has been a small reduction in the budget it is expected that the full range of objectives will be met as a result of efficiency savings. Table 4.08 of the Departmental Report shows the planned objectives for 1998-99 compared with those for 1997-98 and 1996-97.


BUSINESS AND ENTERPRISE SUPPORT AND LOCAL INITIATIVE FUND

  The provision available for Business Enterprise Support and Local Initiatives is £25.2 million. Of this £3.4 million is for Business Connect, the Manufacturing Action Plan and other non-TEC programmes, and £8.6 million was for TEC Business and Enterprise Support (including £1.1 million to help businesses to prepare for the problems anticipated with the Millennium Bug). £13.1 million is for the TEC Local Initiative Fund. £6 million of this is the estimated commitment to LG, and the remainder is for other inward investments, outcomes from Adult Technician Training and TECs' discretionary local initiative projects.

  The £8.6 million for Business Enterprise Support compares with provision of £10.4 million last year. Decisions on budgets for 1998-99 reflected the general fall in unemployment and the significant additional resources coming available under the New Deal.

  Table 4.07 of the Departmental Report shows the planned volumes for 1998-99 compared with 1997-98 and 1996-97.

LG

  56. (Qq 47-4) Please provide a note on the public sector costs of the LG project, with an explanation of where these costs appear in the expenditure tables.

  The LG project has two elements: LG Electronics and LG Semicon. The Electronics project is to develop an integrated monitor plant, and is expected to cost £521 million and create 4,400 jobs in two phases. The Semicon project is to develop a wafer fabrication facility, with associated production facilities, and is expected to cost £1,142 million and create 1,700 jobs.

  Public sector support for the LG project consists of a number of separate elements.

  Regional Selective Assistance—LG were offered a Regional Selective Assistance grant, by the Welsh Office, of £69.5 million. The grant will be released over the life of the project, dependent on progress on capital expenditure and job creation. RSA grants form part of the industry programme and are shown in Table 4.01 of the Departmental Report.

  Infrastructure Costs—the Welsh Development Agency has funded, and is funding, general infrastructure works both on and off site. These works include the diversion of overhead power lines and a trunk sewer; the upgrading/provision of electricity, gas and water; and highway improvements. The LG companies will benefit from this general infrastructure work and the value of this benefit is estimated at £10 million.

  Property Costs—property grants from the WDA to fund the shortfall between the cost of developing the site and the end value of the site once it has been completed. The property grants element of the assistance totals £118.9 million and site development support amounts to £17 million.

  Land Costs—the value of the site acquired jointly by the WDA and Newport County Borough Council. The LG companies will benefit from land to the value of £14.2 million. The WDA has spent £12 million on land acquisition.

  Land, property and infrastructure costs all form part of the Property and Construction figures shown in Table 3.06 of the Departmental Report (Welsh Development Agency's Expenditure and Financing).

  Training Costs—support for training amounts to £17.6 million—paid by Gwent TEC to LG. This expenditure appears within the provision for Business Growth and Start-up and Local Initiatives in Table 4.01. Additionally, there are currently 32 Modern Apprentices in training linked to LG companies, supported by funding of £50,000 in 1997-98 and £125,000 in 1998-99 (also shown in Table 4.01).

  Additionally, through a joint venture with the TEC, the Agency has made available a (longstanding) vacant property in Cwmbran for the electronics training centre for LG(E). As part of that arrangement, the Agency has agreed to forgo the rent for a period of up to 3 years; the market rent of these premises is estimated to be £206,000 pa.

  The WDA has also provided a building at Imperial Park to serve as the Wales Semi-conductor Training Centre, available to any company in the industry. LG(S) has free access to the Centre for 3 years. The financial benefit of this access will depend on usage, but is not considered to be significant.

TRAINING TAKE-UP

  57. (q 52) A note on take-up of training places for each of the training schemes identified in Table 4.01, with a year-on-year comparison, would be helpful.

  Tables 4.09 and 4.10 of the Departmental Report provide volume figures for Training for Young People and Work Based Training for Adults planned for 1998-99 compared to those for 1997-98 and 1996-97. In addition, the table below shows the numbers planned to start on the two programmes in 1998-99, compared with those for the previous two years.

1995-96
outturn
1996-97
outturn
1997-98
provisional
outturn
1998-99
plans
Training for young people120,014 24,21921,70022,706
Training for work12,051 12,6418,9946,000

1 Includes Modern Apprenticeships.


NDPBS

  58. (See Qq 65-67, A4) Is it the Department's intention that all NDPBs will have targets and expenditure plans for 1999-2000 ready for inclusion in the Departmental Report 1999?

  The Department does not foresee any difficulty which would preclude any of its NDPBs from being able to include targets and expenditure plans for 1999-2000 in the 1999 Departmental Report.

RESOURCE ACCOUNTING AND BUDGETING

  59. (See A5) Is it the intention to publish the "practice" resource accounts for 1997-98? If not, it would be helpful to the Committee to see these, in some summarised and comparative form.

  The Department does not intend to publish the "practice" resource accounts for 1997-98 but will provide the Committee with a summarised set of the practice accounts.

  60. Will details of the pilot study on Resource Budgeting be made available to those outside the Department, and if so, when?

  The Department did not take part in the pilot study which included 12 departments. The results of that study are to be included in HM Treasury's summer Memorandum to Parliament. HM Treasury will be conducting a further pilot study on Resource Budgeting next year in which the department will be involved.

ESTIMATES

  61. (A6) It would be helpful to have details of the proposed form of the Estimates in due course.

  For 1999-2000 the form of the Estimates will be slightly different to following years because the Assembly will not be in place for the full financial year. When details of the Estimates are available a copy will be forwarded to the Committee for information.

CHEPSTOW COMMUNITY HOSPITAL

  62a. (See A 9a) Please explain exactly what `non-clinical services' comprise.

  The non-clinical services provided by this contract are: catering; cleaning; grounds and garden maintenance; portering; building maintenance; provision of energy and utilities; mechanical and engineering services; reception and telephonist services.

  62b. (See A 9c) Please explain how the Public Comparator figure was derived, why it is £4 million less than the capital value of the hospital as built by the private sector, and the basis on which it was decided to opt for PFI in this case.

  The Glan Hafren Trust developed a conventional public sector capital scheme to replace facilities at St Lawrence Hospital. The proposal included both refurbishment of existing buildings and the construction of new facilities at a total cost of £5.8million. The PFI requires the Trust to test for interest by the private sector. The proposals received indicated that the best way of meeting the requirements of a Neighbourhood Health Unit was through the construction of a new hospital under the PFI. This would provide a complete range of primary, continuing care, mental health, diagnostic and acute services and entailed building a new hospital at a cost of £10m. The private proposal offered better value for money over the length of the contract than the original capital scheme, despite the higher capital cost involved.

MILLENNIUM BUG

  63. (A 14) Under the terms of the PFI contract for OSIRIS, is the Department or the contractor liable for the costs of Millennium testing and remedial work? (If the Department, why?)

  The contractor (Siemens Business Services ) is responsible for ensuring the Millennium compliance of the OSIRIS system and for meeting any costs arising from this.

CONSULTANCY

  64. (A 15) Is it correct to assume that the Department's expenditure on consultancy of "less than 1 per cent relates to the £7 billion total budget (ie it approaches £70 million)? Does this exclude NDPB consultancy expenditure?

  No. My Department's expenditure on consultants in 1997-98 (excluding NDPBs) amounted to £0.7 million.

  65. It is clear that some NDPBs spend more than others on consultancy (eg CBDC spend around 10 per cent (Table 3.14)). It would be helpful to have an indication of how much each NDPB spends on consultancy.

  The table below outlines NDPB consultancy spend in 1997-98, in relation to their overall gross expenditure.

NDPBGross
expenditure
1997-98
£
Expenditure on
Private Sector
consultancy fees
 1997-98
£
Welsh Development Agency164,620,000 2,580,000
Development Board for Rural Wales17,126,000 1,637,000
Wales Tourist Board13,594,237 109,488
Cardiff Bay Development Corporation59,575,000 5,322,000
Land Authority for Wales15,274,000 621,000
Countryside Council for Wales23,200,000 135,000
National Museums and Galleries of Wales 11,200,00090,000
National Library of Wales6,701,334 36,143
Sports Council for Wales8,812,005 134,570
Welsh Language Board6,000,000 19,000
Arts Council of Wales114,812,030 2109,262
Tai Cymru82,294,086 31,500
Qualification Curriculum and Assessment Authority for Wales 8,524,000116,561
Welsh National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and Health Visiting 1,029,0005,300
Royal Commission on Ancient and Historical Monuments in Wales 1,400,0006,500
Higher Education Funding Council for Wales 236,787,00026,000
Further Education Funding Council for Wales 182,938,00068,000
The Residuary Body for Wales519,000 44,100
Total854,405,69211,091,424

1 Excludes £19,275,000 incurred in respect of lottery activities.
2 Excludes £205,765 incurred in respect of lottery activities.

WELSH DEVELOPMENT AGENCY

  66. (A 25) How soon will the £3 million expected annual saving from the merger of WDA, DBRW and LAW be realised, and what are the estimated transitional costs?

  We do not expect to see actual savings from the merger of WDA, DBRW and LAW until the 1999-2000 financial year. Expect any savings achieved in this financial year to be offset by the implementation of a redundancy scheme and other short term and one-off costs. The precise detail of the transitional costs is not yet available.

FURTHER EDUCATION

  67. Why have staff-student ratios been unavailable for Further Education in Wales since 1995-96? (Table 5.08)?

  Data for the academic year ended 31 July 1997 was not available in time for the Departmental Report. The information for the academic year 1996-97 is being compiled at the moment and is expected to be available by August.

  68. (A 33) What is the purpose and effect of continuing to divide the FEFCW's grant in aid into current and capital, if the FEFCW no long distinguishes between the two in its funding allocations?

  With effect from 1 April 1998, the FEFCW's grant in aid is given as a single sum.

CRICKHOWELL HOUSE

  69. (Q17, A40) What will be the estimated saving to the NHS of the transfer of Crickhowell House to the National Assembly?

  Savings which will accrue to the NHS as a result of the Assembly taking over the building cannot be estimated until the future accommodation arrangements for the various elements of WHCSA and the Assembly have been determined.

SOCIAL SERVICES

  70. Does the Department anticipate increased provision for Social Services as a result of the report of the North Wales Child Abuse Inquiry? (If so, how much?)

  We do not know yet what the North Wales Child Abuse Tribunal will recommend: the Chairman, Sir Ronald Waterhouse, is currently drafting his report, which we expect to be completed early in the autumn. At this stage, therefore, it is premature to consider what calls there might be for further expenditure on residential services for children in Wales. However, the expenditure needs of social services departments must be assessed within the broad framework of the annual Revenue Support Grant settlement. Nevertheless, the Welsh Office has made available £0.8 million in 1998-99, in addition to £0.5 million in 1997-98, to assist local authorities across Wales in implementing the recommendations of the 1996 North Wales Child Care Examination Team (the Adrienne Jones Report), which dealt broadly with this aspect of children's social services provision.

OHMCI

  71. (A 29) How are the expenditure plans for OHMCI affected by the extension of its functions to cover vocational training and the careers service?

  OHMCI will receive additional resources to undertake these new functions. An appropriate initial sum for preparatory work will be transferred from the Welsh Office to OHMCI at the next Winter Supplementary Estimate.

EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES

  72. How does the staff profile of the Welsh Office (in terms of gender, ethnic minorities and disability) compare with that of other Departments?

  Comparative data on an inter-departmental basis is not available. However, the Cabinet Office publishes information for the Civil Service as a whole (Equal Opportunities in the Civil Service Data Summary 1997) and therefore comparisons between the Welsh Office and the Civil Service follow.



Percentage
of staff with
disability
Percentage
of staff with
ethnic minority
Gender of non-industrial staff
 (percentage)
MaleFemale


Civil Service
3.8 5.74951
Welsh Office51 4852

30 June 1998


3   This is net of Appropriations-in-Aid receipts totalling £0.9 million and other miscellaneous expenditure and receipts totalling £1 million. Back


 
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