Select Committee on Defence Minutes of Evidence



Memorandum submitted by the Ministry of Defence responding to the Committee's questions on the MoD's Performance Report

Q1. What is the MoD's policy on making available information on the prices secured on estate disposals?

Release of Information on Individual Disposal Receipts

  A1. The basis of our current policy on the release of information on receipts once a sale has been completed, is that the purchaser may, for their own good reasons, not wish their competitors or the public generally to know what they have paid. For instance, they may (for good reason) have paid substantially above the market price to obtain a particular property and may not wish to reveal this fact which (if widely known) might have implications for the way they were perceived in the course of their day to day business. In other cases, were the purchaser to agree MoD would consider publishing the information, unless there were other reasons for withholding it—i.e., it might influence the market view, and thus the eventual receipt from other MoD disposals of a similar nature which had yet to take place.

  Where a sale has not been completed, it is our normal policy to regard such information as commercially confidential. Although it is our invariable practice, in accordance with Treasury guidelines, to obtain an open market valuation for surplus properties in disposal, these are not made public. To release our assessment of the open market valuation might influence the market or even place an artificial ceiling on bids. In the absence of such information individual bidders may place a higher value on the property than have our professional advisors.

  The NAO have, in connection with their recent report on the disposal of surplus Defence sites, published the actual receipts, but this was against the DEO's advice and wishes. When responding to PQs and dealing with Ministerial correspondence, it currently remains DEO's policy that such information should be withheld, if necessary by citing Exemption 7 of the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information which covers commercial confidentiality. DEO is considering whether to put in place arrangements whereby all future land purchasers are asked if they would consent to the sale price being made public on request. In the event that such consent was refused, however, DEO would have no option but to withhold the figure.

Q2. What is the MoD's approach to any forthcoming Freedom of Information legislation including its policy on seeking exemptions on disclosure?

  A2. The Ministry of Defence already operates in accordance with the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information, which has done much to encourage a culture of openness and a willingness to provide information about how its business is conducted. Accordingly, the Department is making more and more information available, particularly through the Internet. The Secretary of State's commitment to greater openness is set out in the Department's instructions to staff on how to operate the Code, which are themselves available on the MoD's website at:

    http://www.mod.uk/policy/opengovt/policy.htm

  We see the introduction of a Freedom of Information Act not simply as a set of rules about disclosure of information, but as a means of furthering that culture of openness.

  The Freedom of Information White Paper "Your Right to Know" recognises, particularly in the specified interests covering national security, defence and international relations, and commercial confidentiality, that there are elements of defence business which should remain protected. In discussions about the shape of the Act, the Ministry of Defence has not been seeking additional exemptions, but simply to ensure that those which exist will adequately protect information which should legitimately be protected. As at present, each request for information would be treated on a case by case basis, with a view towards disclosure wherever possible.

Q3. What are the latest details on the estimated in-service date, and the slippage now envisaged, on the C130J programme; along with details of additional costs for the MoD because of the slippage and the likely amount of liquidated damages from Lockheed Martin?

  A3. The In Service Date (defined as the delivery of the 12th aircraft) has slipped from July 1998 to the latest estimate of May 2000.

  On current forecasts, it is estimated that the total Liquidated Damages will amount to some £50 million which will be used to offset the costs of running on the C130Ks.

Q4. What are the latest statistics on manpower wastage rates. We would be grateful if you could give data for each of the last four years if possible, differentiating between each Service, and between officers and other ranks. Also any information on the number taking particular exit routes would be appreciated—PVR redundancy, retirement at the end of service, early retirement, at the end of minimum-engagement or at the end of extended-engagement?

  A4. The information sought is shown in the attached tables. For 1998-99, the figures are based on an estimate of wastage for the full year, as final data is not yet available. More generally, the figures are for trained personnel only, as this best represents the underlying position in relation to military capability, and the categories of wastage distinguish between those that could be viewed as predictable (such as retirement at normal age, or those who leave at the end of engagements) and those which are less predictable (such as PVR, medical and disciplinary discharge etc).

  In interpreting the information, the following points should be borne in mind:

    (a)  Terms of service are different in each Service (e.g., normal retirement age varies between Services)—so inter-Service comparisons should be treated cautiously.

    (b)  Rates in any one year can be affected by recruitment/retention policies of many years earlier. For example, recruitment policies 16 years ago will affect the number of officers able to take an immediate pension retirement this year. It is more informative to look at figures over several years to help get rid of this "bow-wave" effect.

    (c)  Premature Voluntary Release (PVR) includes personnel who left the Services because of pregnancy or due to marriage. Redundancies include both voluntary and compulsory redundancies.

    (d)  Figures for the Naval Service include all personnel who are serving in the Royal Navy, Royal Marines and the Queen Alexandra's Royal Naval Nursing Service.

    (e)  Figures for the Army exclude Gurkhas, those serving in the Royal Irish Regiment (Home Service) and reservists mobilised for duties relating to Bosnia.

Q5. Will the new tri-Service Staff College have full academic recognition? (Q82)

  A5. The Advanced Command and Staff Course (ACSC) held annually at the Joint Services Command and Staff College (JSCSC) is fully accredited to postgraduate standard by King's College, University of London. Those officers who undertake a programme of work in addition to the 10-month ACSC syllabus and pass the two examinations, are awarded either a postgraduate Diploma and Master of Arts in Defence Studies by King's College, University of London. This accreditation will continue to be valid when the courses are run at the JSCSC's future location at Watchfield.

Q6. What is the number of civilians recruited into, and leaving, DERA in 1997-98; and the percentage staff turnover in DERA in 1997-98 and in the current year?

  A6. The number of civilians recruited into DERA during financial year 1997-1998 was 1,321. The number of civilians leaving DERA during the same period was 913. This figure includes resignations, redundancies, retirements, dismissals and deaths in service. It excludes transfers to the Ministry of Defence and those at the end of fixed term contracts.

  The percentage staff turnover during financial year 1997-98 was about 8 per cent. The corresponding figure for the current financial year (to the end of January 1999) was about 6 per cent.

Q7. What are current plans for employment of fast jet volunteer reservist pilots?

  A7. Work is ongoing to determine whether there is real potential for fast jet reservist aircrew to work alongside their regular colleagues.

  We intend to take a view on this potential later this year following an evaluation of the trials involving six pilots and two navigators currently being undertaken with the Tornado F3 Squadrons at RAF Coningsby, RAF Leeming and RAF Leuchars.

Q8. Could you provide details of the two projects that failed to meet their 1997-98 ISD, and the further project slipping while its ISD is being re-assessed (Performance Report paragraph 529)

  A8. Details of the two projects that missed their in-year in service date (ISD) are set out below.

Precision Gunnery Training Equipment (PGTE)

  This project had a target ISD of October 1997 but achieved an ISD of April 1998. This facility provides classroom training aids and other training packages related to the Challenger 2 (CR2) and Challenger 1 (CR1) tanks.

  The ISD for the PGTE programme has suffered due to software problems and a Vickers Defence Systems sub-contractor dispute. CR2 PGTE was accepted into service on 19 December 1997 and CR1 PGTE was accepted on 28 April 1998, thereby achieving the revised ISD for the whole programme.

Landing Platform Helicopters (LPH)

  The project had a target ISD of March 1998 but achieved its ISD in October 1998. The LPH programme slipped at the end of last year following delays in the construction phase at Kvaerner Govan Ltd.

Boxer

  The project that was slipping while its ISD was being re-assessed was Boxer. The project had a target ISD of September 1997 but was not expected to achieve ISD until March 1999. This project provides survivable digital trunk communications links with the UK.

  Delays were caused by the need to carry out intrusive repairs which required investigation of the Fibre Optic cable, hence removing links within the BOXER ring.

Q9. How does the MoD intend to report on achievements against targets in relation to the new training cycle which the SDR set out?

  A9. Targets for the overall restructuring of the Armed Forces were set out in the Public Service Agreement and progress will be reported in the Output and Performance Analysis.

  We do not intend to provide public information about the level of readiness of our Armed Forces.

Q10. How did the volume of exercising compare with the previous year? Which areas of the world had the most significant increases or decreases in exercise activity in 1997-98? What changes were there in the type of exercises undertaken or the Services involved? Is there scope for the results of exercises and their costs to be published?

  A.10 Despite the high operational tempo, the level of exercising in 1997-98 remained broadly similar to that of the previous year, apart from the Far East, which saw an increase, due to the Ocean Wave deployment, and North America, which saw a slight reduction. Examples of this are Exercise Flying Fish 97, a regional live exercise with air and maritime forces in support of the Five Power Defence Arrangements, and Exercise Setia Kawan, an amphibious assault training exercise in Brunei. Following these exercises Royal Marine Commando units proceeded to Thailand and Singapore for jungle training exercises.

  In 1997-98 there was greater emphasis on Joint Operations. RAF Harriers were embarked on HMS Invincible alongside RN Sea Harriers during Ocean Wave. The annual Tier 3 Exercise organised by the Permanent Joint Headquarters (PJHQ), Exercise Purple Link, was a Joint Command Post exercise with the Americans and employed a large amount of computer simulation. Exercise Strong Resolve was a major NATO live exercise that took place in March 1998 and proved the concept of a Combined Joint Force Headquarters.

  After each exercise, detailed analysis is carried out and a post-exercise report is issued. The Single-Services and PJHQ keep records of lessons-learnt relevant to each of their areas of capability. The results of each exercise are largely only of interest to the Command involved and would be difficult for a wider audience to interpret correctly. MOD's budget structure devolves costs to the lowest possible level and therefore, it would currently be uneconomical to obtain accurate detailed exercise costs.

Q.11 The Performance Report describes the 1997 Ocean Wave deployment of 20 ships as "demonstrating the Navy's ability to deploy and sustain, at range, an operationally effective task group" [Paragraph 235]. Will this level of capability still be possible once the SDR ship reductions have been made? What were the costs of Ocean Wave both in financial terms and in terms of what the Navy were not able to do because of the deployment?

  A.11 Although the SDR reduced Frigates/Destroyers from 35 to 32 and SSNs from 12 to 10 the Royal Navy retains the ability to deploy a task group of the size of Ocean Wave.

  Defence Diplomacy and support to wider British interests are key post—SDR missions and Royal Navy task groups are very well suited to assisting the achievement of those missions. Current MoD policy is to undertake a Group Deployment every four years with the emphasis very much on Joint Operations, e.g., FTX 2001, a bilateral UK/Oman Joint Rapid Reaction Force validation exercise. UK elements will comprise of a RN medium-scale Maritime Task Group (including CVS and Amphibious Group), one Armoured Brigade and a medium-scale RAF air component. These deployments are also an important contributor to building up the operational capability which the Commander in Chief Fleet is tasked to deliver. In the shorter term, similar slightly smaller deployments are being planned.

  With regard to the financial cost of Ocean Wave, the ships, aircraft and personnel involved in the deployment would, in any event, have been fully engaged in other activities and the additional costs directly attributable to Ocean Wave were about £9.8 million. The main elements of this additional sum are port and harbour dues, Suez Canal transit fees, operational support, additional fuel costs, local overseas allowances, Air Taken Up From Trade (ATUFT) and travel and subsistence.

  Planning for OCEAN WAVE commenced two and a half years prior to the deployment taking place to enable the Commander in Chief Fleet to determine at a very early stage the force assets available to undertake the deployment and to ensure that the programme of activity provided maximum benefit from the deployment. The long lead planning for such deployments ensures that we do not impinge on the Royal Navy's ability to meet standing commitments, such as Armilla, UK contribution to NATO's Standing Naval Forces, West Indies Guardship, etc., or the capability to mount a contingent operation. We were, therefore, able to ensure that no tasks were displaced as a result of the OCEAN WAVE Deployment.

Q12. What lies behind the changes that have been made to in-service dates, since the previous year's Report; in regard to: JTIDS SHAR/SKH; MR TRIGAT; and Chinook MSH?

JTIDS for SHAR and Sea King AEW (Project ISD changed from 2000-02 to 2000-04)

  A12. The ISD for JTIDS for Sea King AEW has slipped seven months (December 2000 to July 2001) due to the need to maintain compliance with NATO message standards.

  The ISD for JTIDS for the Sea Harrier has slipped as a result of technical difficulties on the integration programme and the need to address shortfalls in computing capacity through the purchase of a new Core computer. The revised timetable is based on an initial ISD of July 2003 and the full ISD, at which full capability will be provided, by December 2004.

MR TRIGAT (Project ISD changed from 2002-2003)

  This was caused by late equipment deliveries for trials and delays to system qualification.

Chinook MSH (Project ISD changed from 1997 to 1999)

  The Chinook Medium Support Helicopter programme comprises the procurement of six Mk 2A and eight Mk 3 Chinook Helicopters.

  It did not prove possible for the manufacturer to contract to meet our original preferred ISD for Chinook MK2, namely six aircraft to be delivered by December 1997, but the delivery of the first MK 2 aircraft was achieved in December 1997 and the last was delivered in July 1998.

  Similarly the preferred ISD for MK 3, six aircraft delivered by November 1998, was not reflected in the contract as it was known the contractor would be unable to meet that schedule. However, in November 1997 the contract was amended to achieve deliveries to the RAF after an Avionics Upgrade had been carried out in the USA.

  The ISD is now planned for February 2002, after the avionics upgrade has been carried out on the new aircraft, flight trials have been completed and Full Operational Clearance granted. This new definition of the ISD accords with the current practice of defining an ISD in terms of the achievement of an initial operating capability.

Q13. What were the reasons for areas of significant underspending; in particular, the £203 million on the Vote 3 procurement budget and the £97 million on RAF Logistics Command?

  A13. The final outturn in 1997-98 was £20,916 million, and represented an underspend of £225.2 million (1.06 per cent) against the Defence Budget Cash Limit of £21,141 million. This should be considered against the background of a sizeable overspend in 1996-97, (for which the Department received a fine of £168 million), and the determination to protect cash limits in that a degree of underspend is a natural corollary of reducing the risk of overspend.

  Overall, Vote 3 was underspent by £203 million; £187 million of this on the equipment programme. This outcome was a direct consequence of deliberate decisions not to "backfill" natural slippages in the PE equipment programme with new work/projects and end-year control measures, which slipped some £150 million worth of equipment payments into 1998-99.

  On Vote 2, where RAF Logistics Command expenditure falls, the cash limit was some £111 million lower than the net Estimates provision principally because it reflected a later version of the defence programme and the Vote 2 share of the fine for overspending in 1996-97. However, because net provision on a Vote cannot be reduced, a gap between the Estimates provision and outturn expenditure was inevitable. As a result RAF Logistics Command programme was being managed to a cash allocation substantially below the revised Estimates provision, and its net outturn was £1,569 million, within £3 million of this cash allocation, representing a creditable performance.

Q14. When we took evidence for our inquiry on SDR, the Department told us that in broad terms £500 million of new efficiency savings would have to be found in each of the next four years, and for 1999-2000 they had already earmarked £400 million of savings. What level of savings have been provisionally identified so far for 1999-2000?

  A14. Draft plans indicate the potential to achieve efficiency improvements valued at some £530 million in 1999-2000. The realism of these plans, and the level of cash savings they eventually produce, is being evaluated and continues to be monitored by the Ministerial Efficiency Steering Group.

Q15. What is the rationale for establishing the PE as an agency given its role as MoD's customer for equipment, rather than a service-provider? Will the new Defence Procurement Agency subsume all purchasing tasks, including those of the current logistics commands?

  A15. Despite its procurement role, the PE does not see itself as a customer for equipment but rather as an agent of the MoD and the Armed Forces. This relationship has been increasingly emphasised in recent years.

  The point has been reached, however, where the hierarchical structure of the PE would have inhibited further development of an essentially customer oriented organisation. This is the main rationale for the conversion of the PE into an agency. The change of status will emphasise the fundamental distinction between its role and that of the equipment customer function within MoD headquarters. The majority of Agency staff will operate within Integrated Project Teams (IPTs) which will deal directly with the MoD customer. The teams will receive guidance and advice, rather than management in the conventional sense, from the Agency's top structure. Another feature of the new arrangements will be that the IPTs will transfer to the newly created Defence Logistics Organisation when the equipment enters service.

  The DPA will not subsume all purchasing tasks as the Defence Logistics Organisation will be responsible for supporting equipment once it enters service and for the initial procurement of routine items, such as consumables.

Q16. How does the concept of a new Chief of Defence Logistics mesh with the creation of new stores and distribution agencies? What advantages will having a CDL bring, that new tri-Service logistics agencies cannot provide alone? How is the creation of the CDL organisation being co-ordinated with initiatives in the new logistics agencies?

  A16. The decision under SDR to create a Defence Storage and Distribution Agency and Defence Transport and Movements Agency from the existing stores and distribution organisations of the three single services is entirely consistent with the creation of CDL. It is designed to deliver the most efficient and effective operation of these activities across Defence. The Agencies will, of course, be part of the Defence Logistics Organisation, under CDL from 1 April 1999. However, whilst the new agencies will drive down the costs of storing and distributing the Defence inventory, they cannot themselves influence what is stored and in what quantity. CDL has already commissioned urgent work across the Defence support chain to identify more efficient means of delivering Service needs through modern Lean Support Chain techniques. Such a pan-Defence approach, co-ordinating and focusing effort across acquisition, storage, distribution and commodity management activities would not have been possible without CDL.

  Agency status provides a management regime designed to enable Chief Executives to secure efficiency and output improvements within their Agency boundaries. CDL, on the other hand, has a much wider remit and his authority will extend across the whole of the Defence Logistics Organisation. He will thus be able to ensure that challenging targets are set not only for the Agencies within his management area but also for the non-Agency parts of his organisation. Coupled with the introduction of Resource Accounting and Budgeting, CDL will be well placed to drive forward across the logistics area a programme designed to exploit synergies and spread best practice whilst removing duplication and encouraging rationalisation. The creation of CDL is an example of the MoD's commitment to a more joined up approach to Defence. CDL will ensure a coherent approach designed to improve the performance of the total logistics process as well as exploiting efficiencies within each agency.

  The new logistics Agencies will form, on 1 April 1999, within the new CDL organisation. Agency ownership responsibilities will, for 1999-2000, be discharged by the PAOs, who will be accountable to CDL. Longer term Agency ownership arrangements within the unified logistics organisation will be examined early during CDL's first year of operation. The CDL Implementation Team has already launched a number of studies, using personnel drawn from both the Implementation Team and existing PAO staffs, to identify further opportunities for early efficiency gains generated by the created of CDL, to complement those expected to arise from the operation of the new logistics Agencies.


 
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