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[No. 66.] Monday 20th March 2000.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Barry Jones reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 53) on rural bus subsidy grants for 2000–01 (House of Commons Paper No. 302), and the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 54) on Rural Bus Challenge 1999 (House of Commons Paper No. 303). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 2 | Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Jim Cunningham reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 55) on 1999–2000 Special Grant for Asylum Seekers' Support (Adults and Families of Asylum Seekers) (House of Commons Paper No. 304). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 3 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords have agreed to the Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Bill, without Amendment.
| 4 | Census (Amendment) Bill [Lords],—The Census (Amendment) Bill [Lords] was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 7th April and to be printed [Bill 92]. |
Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Census (Amendment) Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 92–EN].
| 5 | Countryside and Rights of Way Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Countryside and Rights of Way Bill; |
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;
An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word ‘That' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Countryside and Rights of Way Bill because, although it contains worthwhile provisions on protection of Sites of Special Scientific Interest and wildlife protection, the provisions on access to the countryside impose heavy-handed and unjustifiable infringements on the rights of private property owners, and provisions for compensation are negligible; because it introduces access to ‘open country' in a form which will be damaging to the interests of hard-pressed farmers and will threaten wildlife and conservation sites which other parts of the Bill are designed to protect; because it fails to provide sufficient improvements in the Rights of Way network which is a more important mechanism for improving access for most people; and because it gives no extra protection to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and misses the opportunity to deal with many of the real problems affecting the countryside in England and Wales', instead thereof.—(Mr Archie Norman.)
And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made;
Mr Kevin Hughes rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put;
And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:—It was agreed to.
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Peter Luff: 138.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr David Jamieson: 334.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading):—It was agreed to.
The Bill was accordingly read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.
| 6 | Countryside and Rights of Way Bill [Money],—Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Countryside and Rights of Way Bill [Money]; |
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A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Countryside and Rights of Way Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of—
(a) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums required by the Secretary of State for making grants to the Countryside Agency or the Nature Conservancy Council for England;
(b) any administrative expenses of a Minister of the Crown which are attributable to the Act;
(c) any other expenditure of a Minister of the Crown or government department which is attributable to the Act; and
(d) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums which under any other enactment are payable out of money so provided—(Mr Don Touhig):—It was agreed to.
| 7 | Legal Services Commission,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Community Legal Service (Cost Protection) Regulations 2000, which were laid before this House on 21st February, be approved—(Mr Don Touhig):—It was agreed to. |
| 8 | Legal Services Commission,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Community Legal Service (Scope) Regulations 2000, which were laid before this House on 21st February, be approved—(Mr Don Touhig); |
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr David Jamieson: 303.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 160.
So the Question was agreed to.
Resolved, That the draft Community Legal Service (Scope) Regulations 2000, which were laid before this House on 21st February, be approved.
| 9 | Legal Services,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Conditional Fee Agreements Order 2000, which was laid before this House on 21st February, be approved—(Mr Don Touhig):—It was agreed to. |
| 10 | Access to Justice,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Funding Code prepared by the Legal Services Commission in accordance with section 8 of the Access to Justice Act 1999 and as first approved by the Lord Chancellor in accordance with section 9(4) of that Act, which was laid before this House on 28th February, be approved—(Mr Don Touhig); |
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr David Jamieson: 295.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 149.
So the Question was agreed to.
Resolved, That the Funding Code prepared by the Legal Services Commission in accordance with section 8 of the Access to Justice Act 1999 and as first approved by the Lord Chancellor in accordance with section 9(4) of that Act, which was laid before this House on 28th February, be approved.
| 11 | Constitutional Law,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Scotland Act 1998 (Cross-Border Public Authorities) (Adaptation of Functions etc.) Order 2000, which was laid before this House on 1st March, be approved—(Mr Don Touhig):—It was agreed to. |
| 12 | Social Security,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Tax Credits Up-rating Order 2000, which was laid before this House on 3rd March, be approved—(Mr Don Touhig):—It was agreed to. |
| 13 | Science and Technology,—Ordered, That Mr Nigel Beard be discharged from the Science and Technology Committee and Dr Brian Iddon be added to the Committee.—(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 14 | Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from residents in the constituency of Harwich calling for free television licences for all persons over the retirement age was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed. |
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| 15 | Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Don Touhig); |
And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then thirteen minutes past Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 11.13 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Social Security,—Draft Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers' Compensation) (Payment of Claims) (Amendment) Regulations 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 2 | Food,—Meat Products (Hygiene) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 790), dated 18th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown]. |
| 3 | National Assistance Services,—National Assistance (Sums for Personal Requirements) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 798), dated 20th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]. |
| 4 | National Health Service,—(1) Commission for Health Improvement (Functions) Amendment Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 797), dated 18th March 2000, and |
(2) National Health Service Pension Scheme (Additional Voluntary Contributions) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 619), dated 16th March 2000
[by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
| 5 | Road Traffic,—Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 791), dated 20th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
| 6 | Social Security,—Social Security (Overlapping Benefits) Amendment Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 799), dated 20th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling]. |
| 7 | Universities of Oxford and Cambridge,—(1) Statute, dated 21st December 1999, made by the Governing Body of Churchill College, Cambridge, amending the Statutes of the College, and |
(2) Statute, dated 23rd November 1999, made by the University of Cambridge, amending the Statutes of the University
[by Act] [Margaret Beckett].
Other Papers:
| 8 | Criminal Injuries Compensation,—Accounts of the— |
(1) Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel, and
(2) Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority
for 1998–99, with the reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 359 and 357] [Clerk of the House].
| 9 | Marshall Aid Commemoration,—Accounts of the Marshall Aid Commemoration Commission for 1998–99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 358] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 10 | National Audit,—(1) Financial Auditing and Reporting: General Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for 1998–99 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 11-XIX] [Mr Stephen Timms]; and |
(2) Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on The Private Finance Initiative: The Contract for the Defence Fixed Telecommunications System [by Act]; to be printed [No. 328] [Clerk of the House].
| 11 | National Lottery,—Accounts of the Scottish Arts Council National Lottery Distribution Fund for 1998–99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 360] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 12 | Overseas Pensions,—Overseas Service Pensions Amendment Scheme 2000 [by Act] [Secretary Clare Short]. |
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APPENDIX II
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [MAFF: The Sheep Annual Premium Scheme in England]; to be printed [No. 362-i] [Mr David Davis]. |
| 2 | Science and Technology,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [EQUAL (Extend Quality Life)]; to be printed [No. 245-iv] [Dr Michael Clark]. |
| 3 | Treasury,—(1) Fourth Report from the Committee [The Private Finance Initiative], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 147]; and |
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [The Private Finance Initiative]
[Mr Giles Radice].
[No. 67.] Tuesday 21st March 2000.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | City of Newcastle upon Tyne Bill [Lords],—The Order of the day being read, for the Third Reading of the City of Newcastle upon Tyne Bill [Lords]; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Tuesday 28th March.
| 2 | Greenham and Crookham Commons Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Greenham and Crookham Commons Bill; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Tuesday 28th March.
| 3 | Postal Services Bill,—Mr John Maxton reported from Standing Committee B, That it had gone through the Postal Services Bill, and made Amendments thereunto. |
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 93].
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 368].
| 4 | Royal Parks (Trading) Bill,—Mr Jonathan Sayeed reported from Standing Committee G, That it had gone through the Royal Parks (Trading) Bill, and directed him to report the same, without Amendment. |
Bill, not amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 367].
| 5 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords communicate that they have appointed a Committee of twelve Lords to join with a Committee of the Commons as the Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills; that they have ordered that such Committee have power to agree with the Committee of the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman; and that the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee from time to time be printed and, if the Committee think fit, be delivered out; and they propose that the Joint Committee do meet on Tuesday 28th March at a quarter-past Four o'clock.
| 6 | Royal Assent,—The Speaker notified the House, in accordance with the Royal Assent Act 1967, That Her Majesty had signified her Royal Assent to the following Act, agreed upon by both Houses: |
Consolidated Fund Act 2000.
| 7 | Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report and Financial Statement and Budget Report, March 2000,—Ordered, That there be laid before this House a copy of the Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report and Financial Statement and Budget Report, March 2000, as laid before this House by Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer when opening the Budget.—(Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer.) |
| 8 | Ways and Means,—Provisional Collection of Taxes,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 51 (Ways and means motions),
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That, pursuant to section 5 of the Provisional Collection of Taxes Act 1968, provisional statutory effect shall be given to the following motions:— |
(a) Hydrocarbon oils (rates of duty and rebate) (motion No. 5);
(b) Tobacco products (rates of duty) (motion No. 10);
(c) Vehicle excise duty (rates for goods vehicles etc.) (motion No. 17);
(d) Disposals of assets for which a VAT repayment is claimed (motion No. 19)—(Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer):—It was agreed to.
| 9 | Ways and Means,—Amendment of the Law,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That it is expedient to amend the law with respect to the National Debt and the public revenue and to make further provision in connection with finance; but this Resolution does not extend to the making of any amendment with respect to value added tax so as to provide— |
(a) for zero-rating or exempting a supply, acquisition or importation;
(b) for refunding an amount of tax;
(c) for varying any rate at which that tax is at any time chargeable; or
(d) for any relief, other than a relief which—
(i) so far as it is applicable to goods, applies to goods of every description, and
(ii) so far as it is applicable to services, applies to services of every description—(Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer);
And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
| 10 | Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from residents of Torbay against the Government's proposed changes to the method of benefit payments was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed. |
| 11 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr David Clelland.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.29 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Local Government Finance,—Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 59) (Metropolitan Railway Passenger Services Grant 2000–2001) [by Act]; to be printed [No. 361] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 2 | Income Tax,—(1) Income Tax (Cash Equivalents of Car Fuel Benefits) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 810), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo]; and |
(2) Individual Savings Account (Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 809), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Miss Melanie Johnson].
| 3 | London Government,—Greater London Authority Election (Early Voting) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 826), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
| 4 | Medicines,—Marketing Authorisations for Veterinary Medicinal Products Amendment Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 776), dated 14th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown]. |
| 5 | Sea Fisheries,—Sea Fishing (Enforcement of Community Quota and Third Country Fishing Measures) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 827), dated 20th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown]. |
| 6 | Social Security,—Tax Credits Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 795), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo]. |
| 7 | Social Security (Northern Ireland),—Tax Credits Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 796), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo]. |
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| 8 | Value Added Tax,—(1) Value Added Tax (Charities and Aids for the Handicapped) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 805), and |
(2) Value Added Tax (Fund-Raising Events by Charities and Other Qualifying Bodies) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 802),
dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Miss Melanie Johnson]; and
(3) Value Added Tax (Increase of Registration Limits) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 804),
dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo]; and
(4) Value Added Tax (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 794), and
(5) Value Added Tax (Increase of Consideration for Fuel) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 811),
dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Stephen Timms].
Other Papers:
| 9 | Air Force Constitution,—Regulations of the Defence Council, dated 2nd March 2000, consolidating amendments to Air Publication 400B-0001 (First Edition), and re-titling the publication as Air Publication 3392 Volume 7 (1st Edition): Regulations for the Reserve Air Forces [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 10 | Defence,—Ministry of Defence Minute, dated 21st March 2000, concerning the proposed gifting of up to 288 Challenger 1 Main Battle Tanks and elements of a support package to the Government of Jordan [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 11 | Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report and Financial Statement and Budget Report, March 2000,—Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report and Financial Statement and Budget Report, March 2000, entitled Prudent for a Purpose: Working for a Stronger and Fairer Britain [pursuant to Order this day]; to be printed [No. 346] [Mr Stephen Timms]. |
| 12 | Environment, Transport and the Regions,—Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions Minute, concerning a contingent liability consequent upon indemnification for legal action in relation to a public inquiry conducted by Lord Cullen into the fatal collision between two passenger trains at Ladbroke Grove Junction, West London [by Command] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
| 13 | Finance,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Audit of Assumptions for the March 2000 Budget [by Act]; to be printed [No. 348] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 14 | National Debt,—Debt Management Report for 2000–01 [by Command] [Miss Melanie Johnson]. |
| 15 | National Health Service,—Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 20th March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by— |
(1) Exeter and District Community Health Service National Health Service Trust,
(2) Hull and East Riding Community Health National Health Service Trust,
(3) Norfolk Mental Health Care National Health Service Trust,
(4) Queens Medical Centre, Nottingham University Hospital National Health Service Trust,
(5) United Bristol Healthcare National Health Service Trust,
(6) Wakefield and Pontefract Community Health National Health Service Trust, and
(7) West Dorset General Hospitals National Health Service Trust
[by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
| 16 | Reserve Forces,—Change 3 to the Regulations for the Royal Naval Reserve (BR60) [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Draft Organisation for Joint Armament Co-operation (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2000,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Ms Jenny Jones, Mr Austin Mitchell, Joan Ruddock and Mr Marsha Singh from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Ms Linda Perham, Mr Terry Rooney, Rachel Squire and Dr Alan Whitehead. |
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| 2 | Code of Audit Practice for Local Authorities and the National Health Service in England and Wales,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Ann Clwyd from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Code); and nominated in substitution Mr Jon Owen Jones. |
| 3 | Local Government Finance Special Grant Report (No. 60) on 1999-2000 Special Grant for unaccompanied asylum-seeking children (House of Commons Paper No. 330),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr John Cummings, Maria Eagle, Mr Roger Godsiff, Mr Stephen Hepburn and Mr Jon Owen Jones from the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Report); and nominated in substitution Mrs Helen Brinton, Mr Paul Goggins, Dr Ashok Kumar, Dr Doug Naysmith and Mrs Betty Williams. |
| 4 | Draft Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000 (Transfer of NAO Staff etc.) Order 2000,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Tam Dalyell, Maria Fyfe and Mr James Wray from the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Russell Brown, Mr Ernie Ross and Mr Bill Tynan. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Agriculture,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Agriculture Committee [The Implications for UK Agriculture and EU Agricultural Policy of Trade Liberalisation and the WTO Round]; to be printed [No. 246-iii]; and |
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [The Implications for UK Agriculture and EU Agricultural Policy of Trade Liberalisation and the WTO Round]
[Mr David Curry].
| 2 | Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Travelling Fairs]; to be printed [No. 284-ii]; and |
(2) Memoranda laid before the Environment Sub-Committee [The Planning Inspectorate and Public Inquiries]; to be printed [No. 364-II]
[Mr Andrew F. Bennett].
| 3 | International Development,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [After Seattle—The World Trade Organisation and Developing Countries]; to be printed [No. 227-iii]; and |
(2) Appendix to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 15 December 1999 [DFID's Policy towards China and Pakistan]; to be printed [No. 126-ii]
[Mr Bowen Wells].
| 4 | Standards and Privileges,—Eighth Report from the Committee on Standards and Privileges [Complaint against Mr Tony Baldry], with an Appendix; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 369] [Mr Alan Williams]. |
| 5 | Trade and Industry,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [Proposed Public-Private Partnership for BNFL]; to be printed [No. 307-ii] [Mr Martin O'Neill]. |
| 6 | Welsh Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Social Exclusion in Wales]; to be printed [No. 365-i] [Mr Martyn Jones]. |
[No. 67; WH, No. 39]
Tuesday 21st March 2000.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 24th May 1999].
The sitting commenced at Ten o'clock.
| 1 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned (Mr Clive Betts.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 1.00 p.m.
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[No. 68.] Wednesday 22nd March 2000.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | City of London (Ward Elections) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for further consideration of the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, as amended by the Chairman of Ways and Means; |
Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Wednesday 29th March.
| 2 | Licensing (Young Persons) Bill,—Mr Joe Benton reported from Standing Committee C, That it had gone through the Licensing (Young Persons) Bill, and made Amendments thereunto. |
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Friday 12th May; and to be printed [Bill 95].
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 363].
| 3 | Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Andrew Welsh reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Code of Audit Practice for Local Authorities and the National Health Service in England and Wales. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 4 | Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Bowen Wells reported from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Air Quality (England) Regulations 2000. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 5 | Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Frank Cook reported from the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000 (Transfer of NAO Staff etc.) Order 2000. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 6 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords request that the Commons may be pleased to return the Census (Amendment) Bill [Lords] because Clause No. 2 of the Bill is incorrect.
| 7 | Census (Amendment) Bill [Lords],—Ordered, That the Lords Message this day relating to the Census (Amendment) Bill [Lords] be now considered. |
The House accordingly proceeded to consider the Lords Message.
Ordered, That the said Bill be returned to the Lords, as desired by their Lordships.
The Order for reading the Bill a second time on Friday 7th April was discharged.
| 8 | Consolidation, &c., Bills,—Ordered, That the Lords Message of 21st March relating to the Joint Committee on Consolidation, &c., Bills be now considered. |
Lords Message considered accordingly.
Ordered, That the Committee appointed by this House do meet the Lords Committee as proposed by their Lordships.
Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.
| 9 | Child Curfew (Specified Age),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to change the maximum specified age at which a child may be subject to a notice given under a local child curfew scheme: And that Mr Vernon Coaker, Mr Lawrie Quinn, Mr Andrew Reed, Gillian Merron, Mr John Heppell, Mrs Liz Blackman, Ms Rosie Winterton, Ann Coffey, Mr Neil Turner, Joan Ryan and Caroline Flint do prepare and bring it in. |
| 10 | Child Curfew (Specified Age) Bill,—Mr Vernon Coaker accordingly presented a Bill to change the maximum specified age at which a child may be subject to a notice given under a local child curfew scheme: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 7th April and to be printed [Bill 94]. |
| 11 | Ways and Means,—Amendment of the Law,—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed yesterday, That it is expedient to amend the law with respect to the National Debt and the public revenue and to make further provision in connection with finance; but this Resolution does not extend to the making of any amendment with respect to value added tax so as to provide— |
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(a) for zero-rating or exempting a supply, acquisition or importation;
(b) for refunding an amount of tax;
(c) for varying any rate at which that tax is at any time chargeable; or
(d) for any relief, other than a relief which—
(i) so far as it is applicable to goods, applies to goods of every description, and
(ii) so far as it is applicable to services, applies to services of every description;
And the Question being again proposed:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate.
And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
| 12 | Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from residents of— |
(1) North Cornwall,
(2) Truro and St Austell, and
(3) St Ives
against the Government's proposed changes to the method of benefit payments were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
| 13 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Mike Hall.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.31 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Supreme Court of England and Wales,—Draft Access to Justice Act 1999 (Destination of Appeals) Order 2000 [by Act] [Mr David Lock]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 2 | Education,—Education Maintenance Allowance (Pilot Areas) (Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 838), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 3 | Merchant Shipping,—Merchant Shipping (Training and Certification) (Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 836), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
| 4 | National Health Service,—National Health Service (Travelling Expenses and Remission of Charges) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 837), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]. |
| 5 | Tractors,—Agricultural or Forestry Tractors and Tractor Components (Type Approval) (Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 828), dated 21st March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
Other Papers:
| 6 | Competition Commission,—Report by the Competition Commission on the proposed acquisition by NTL Incorporated of the cable business of Cable & Wireless Communications plc [by Command] [Cm. 4666] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 7 | Culture, Media and Sport,—Government Response to the Third Report from the Culture, Media and Sport Committee, Session 1999–2000, on The Funding of the BBC [by Command] [Cm. 4674] [Mr Secretary Smith]. |
| 8 | Housing (Northern Ireland),—Accounts of the Northern Ireland Housing Executive for 1998–99, with the Report of the Local Government Auditor and of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Command] [Cm. 4681] [Mr Secretary Mandelson]. |
| 9 | Treaty Series (No. 13, 2000),—Partnership and Co-operation Agreement, done at Brussels on 23rd January 1995, between the European Communities and their Member States, of the one part, and the Republic of Kazakhstan, of the other part, with Protocol including Declarations and Final Act [by Command] [Cm. 4627] [Mr Secretary Cook]. |
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| 10 | Treaty Series (No. 23, 2000),—Exchange of Notes, done at La Paz on 16th September 1999, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Republic of Bolivia concerning certain Commercial Debts (The United Kingdom/Bolivia Debt Agreement No. 7 (1998)), [by Command] [Cm. 4641] [Mr Secretary Cook]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Countryside and Rights of Way Bill: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee B, and has appointed Mr George Stevenson and Mr Humfrey Malins Chairmen; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-three Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Ms Candy Atherton, Mr David Borrow, Mrs Helen Brinton, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Huw Edwards, Mr James Gray, Mr Damian Green, Mr David Heath, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr David Kidney, Mr David Lepper, Mr Elfyn Llwyd, Chris McCafferty, Miss Anne McIntosh, Mr Michael Meacher, Mr Chris Mullin, Mr Denis Murphy, Mr James Paice, Mr Gordon Prentice, Mr Terry Rooney, Mr Nicholas Soames, Mr Gareth Thomas (Clwyd West) and Mr Mark Todd.
| 2 | Health Service Commissioners (Amendment) Bill: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C, and has appointed Mr Joe Benton Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr David Amess, John Austin, Mr Paul Burstow, Mrs Janet Dean, Julia Drown, Mr Paul Goggins, Mr Philip Hammond, Dr Evan Harris, Mr Kelvin Hopkins, Sir Geoffrey Johnson Smith, Ms Linda Perham, Mr Marsha Singh, Angela Smith, Ms Gisela Stuart, Mr Alan W. Williams (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr) and Mr Nicholas Winterton.
| 3 | Report by the Secretary of State for Social Security under section 82 of the Welfare Reform and Pensions Act 1999 (House of Commons Paper No. 270): |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Report to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Jim Cunningham Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Julian Brazier, Christine Butler, Ann Coffey, Angela Eagle, Mr Mike Gapes, Mr Andrew George, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr Bob Laxton, Mr John McFall, Mrs Diana Organ, Mr Eric Pickles, Mr John Randall, Mr Andrew Robathan, Mr Marsha Singh, Dr George Turner and Steve Webb.
| 4 | Draft Equality (Disability, etc.) (Northern Ireland) Order 2000: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Jim Cunningham Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Harry Barnes, Mr Crispin Blunt, Mr Graham Brady, Mr Desmond Browne, Mr Paul Burstow, Mr James Cran, Jim Dowd, Paul Flynn, Mr George Howarth, Ms Jenny Jones, Mr John McDonnell, Mr Austin Mitchell, Mr Chris Ruane, The Reverend Martin Smyth, Mr John M. Taylor and Mr Paul Truswell.
| 5 | Local Government Finance Special Grant Report (No. 60) on 1999-2000 Special Grant for unaccompanied asylum-seeking children (House of Commons Paper No. 330),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Adrian Sanders and Ms Debra Shipley from the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Special Grant Report); and nominated in substitution Mr Peter Bradley and Dr Evan Harris. |
| 6 | Draft Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000 (Transfer of NAO Staff etc.) Order 2000,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Mohammad Sarwar from the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Maria Fyfe. |
Grand Committees
| 7 | The Speaker has appointed Mr John Maxton Chairman of the Scottish Grand Committee in respect of its meeting on Wednesday 5th April. |
| 8 | The Speaker has appointed Mr Barry Jones Chairman of the Welsh Grand Committee in respect of its meeting on Tuesday 4th April. |
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European Standing Committees
| 9 | The Speaker has appointed Mrs Ray Michie Chairman of European Standing Committee A in respect of European Union Document No. 12992/99, a draft Council Regulation on the reform of the flax and hemp support regime. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Defence,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence Committee [Lessons of Kosovo]; to be printed [No. 347-ii] [Mr Bruce George]. |
| 2 | Education and Employment,—(1) Third Report from the Education and Employment Committee [The Draft Part-time Employees (Prevention of Less Favourable Treatment) Regulations 2000]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 297] [Mr Derek Foster]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education Sub-Committee of the Committee [The Role of Private Sector Organisations in Public Education]; to be printed [No. 118-iii] [Mr Barry Sheerman].
| 3 | Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Proposed Urban White Paper]; to be printed [No. 185-iv] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [The Road Haulage Industry]; to be printed [No. 296-iii] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
| 4 | Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Public Administration Committee [Making Government Work]; to be printed [No. 238-ii] [Dr Tony Wright]. |
| 5 | Science and Technology,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [Cancer Research—A Fresh Look]; to be printed [No. 332-i] [Dr Michael Clark]. |
| 6 | Scottish Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Scottish Affairs Committee [Poverty in Scotland]; to be printed [No. 59-ix] [Mr David Marshall]. |
[No. 68; WH, No. 40]
Wednesday 22nd March 2000.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to the Order of 24th May 1999].
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| 1 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mr Don Touhig.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.
[No. 69.] Thursday 23rd March 2000.
The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | London Local Authorities Bill [Lords],—The Order of the day being read, for consideration of the London Local Authorities Bill [Lords], as amended in the Committee; |
Ordered, That the Bill be considered on Thursday 30th March.
| 2 | Kent County Council Bill [Lords],—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Kent County Council Bill [Lords]; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 30th March.
| 3 | Medway Council Bill [Lords],—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Medway Council Bill [Lords]; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 30th March.
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| 4 | Mersey Tunnels Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Mersey Tunnels Bill; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 30th March.
| 5 | Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Nicholas Winterton reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Organisation for Joint Armament Cooperation (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2000. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 6 | Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Humfrey Malins reported from the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Special Grant Report (No. 60) on 1999–2000 Special Grant for unaccompanied asylum-seeking children (House of Commons Paper No. 330). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 7 | Ways and Means,—Amendment of the Law,—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed [21st March], That it is expedient to amend the law with respect to the National Debt and the public revenue and to make further provision in connection with finance; but this Resolution does not extend to the making of any amendment with respect to value added tax so as to provide— |
(a) for zero-rating or exempting a supply, acquisition or importation;
(b) for refunding an amount of tax;
(c) for varying any rate at which that tax is at any time chargeable; or
(d) for any relief, other than a relief which—
(i) so far as it is applicable to goods, applies to goods of every description, and
(ii) so far as it is applicable to services, applies to services of every description;
And the Question being again proposed:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate.
And it being Seven o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Monday 27th March.
| 8 | Business of the House,—Ordered, That, at the sitting on Thursday 20th April— |
(1) the House shall meet at half-past Nine o'clock, and shall between that hour and half-past Twelve proceed with a motion for the adjournment of the House made by a Minister of the Crown;
(2) the subject for debate on the said motion shall be ‘matters to be considered before the forthcoming adjournment';
(3) at Eleven o'clock the Speaker may interrupt the proceedings in order to permit questions to be asked which are in her opinion of an urgent character and relate either to matters of public importance or to the arrangement of business, statements to be made by Ministers, or personal explanations to be made by Members;
(4) at half-past Twelve o'clock, the proceedings shall be interrupted and the motion for the adjournment shall lapse;
(5) a further motion for the adjournment of the House shall thereafter be made by a Minister of the Crown and, subject to the Order of 1st March, if the Question on the said motion has not previously been agreed to, at One o'clock the Speaker shall adjourn the House without Question put; and
(6) there shall be no sitting in Westminster Hall.—(Mr Mike Hall.)
| 9 | Competition,—Ordered, That the Competition Act 1998 (Director's Rules) Order 2000 be referred to a Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation.—(Mr Mike Hall.) |
| 10 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Mike Hall.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-seven minutes past Seven o'clock adjourned till tomorrow.
[Adjourned at 7.27 p.m.
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APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Local Government Finance,—(1) Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 56) on the Promoting Independence: Partnership Grant for 2000–01, |
(2) Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 57) on the Promoting Independence: Prevention Grant for 2000–01, and
(3) Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 58) on the Promoting Independence: Carers Grant for 2000–01
[by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 337, 338 and 339] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 2 | Constitutional Law,—Scotland Act 1998 (Agency Arrangements) (Specification) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 745), dated 15th March 2000 [by Act] [Margaret Beckett]. |
| 3 | Northern Ireland,—Northern Ireland Act 1998 (Modification) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 741), dated 15th March 2000 [by Act] [Margaret Beckett]. |
| 4 | Parliamentary Commissioner,—Parliamentary Commissioner Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 739), dated 15th March 2000 [by Act] [Margaret Beckett]. |
Other Papers::
| 5 | Animals (Scientific Procedures),—Guidance on the Operation of the Animals (Scientific Procedures) Act 1986 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 321] [Mr Secretary Straw] |
| 6 | Air Force (Constitution),—Regulations of the Defence Council, dated 14th March 2000, comprising Amendment List 8 to the Royal Air Force Manual of Assessment of Medical Fitness: Air Publication 1269A (Third Edition) [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 7 | Criminal Statistics,—Criminal Statistics for England and Wales for 1998 [by Command] [Cm. 4649] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
| 8 | Culture, Media and Sport,—Government Response to the Fourth Report from the Culture, Media and Sport Committee, Session 1999–2000, on Wembley National Stadium [by Command] [Cm. 4686] [Mr Secretary Smith]. |
| 9 | Miscellaneous (No. 6, 2000),—International Convention, adopted at New York on 15th December 1997, for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Cm. 4662] [Mr Secretary Cook]. |
| 10 | Miscellaneous (No. 7, 2000),—International Convention, done at New York on 10th January 2000, for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Cm. 4663] [Mr Secretary Cook]. |
| 11 | Probation Board (Northern Ireland),—Statement of Accounts of the Probation Board for Northern Ireland for 1998–99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 372] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 12 | Reserve Forces,—Reserve Forces' and Cadets' Associations Regulations 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 13 | Water Resources,—Security and Emergency Measures (Environment Agency) (England) Direction 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
APPENDIX II
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Culture, Media and Sport,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [Cultural Property: Return and Illicit Trade]; to be printed [No. 371-i] [Mr Gerald Kaufman]. |
| 2 | Health,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [Provision of NHS Mental Health Services]; to be printed [No. 373-i] [Mr David Hinchliffe]. |
| 3 | International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Mozambique]; to be printed [No. 326-ii] [Mr Bowen Wells]. |
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| 4 | Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-Committee of the Treasury Committee [Government's Cash and Debt Management]; to be printed [No. 154-v] [Mr Giles Radice]. |
[No. 69; WH, No. 41]
Thursday 23rd March 2000.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 24th May 1999].
The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
| 1 | Adjournment (Pensions Reform),—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned—(Jim Dowd.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 28th March.
[Adjourned at 4.45 p.m.
[No. 70.] Friday 24th March 2000.
The House met at half-past Nine o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
Learning and Skills Bill [Lords],—The Lords have passed a Bill to establish the Learning and Skills Council for England and the National Council for Education and Training for Wales, to make other provision about education and training, and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
| 2 | Learning and Skills Bill [Lords],—The Learning and Skills Bill [Lords] was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Monday 27th March and to be printed [Bill 96]. |
Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Learning and Skills Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 96–EN].
| 3 | Urban Regeneration and Countryside Protection Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Urban Regeneration and Countryside Protection Bill; |
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;
And it being half-past Two o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Friday 19th May.
| 4 | Hare Coursing Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Hare Coursing Bill; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 7th April.
| 5 | Recycled Content of Newsprint Bill,—The Recycled Content of Newsprint Bill was, according to Order, read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee. |
| 6 | Road Traffic Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Road Traffic Bill; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 7th April.
| 7 | Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Jim Dowd); |
And the Motion having been made after half-past Two o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then one minute past Three o'clock, till Monday 27th March.
[Adjourned at 3.01 p.m.
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APPENDIX
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 1 | Social Security,—(1) Income Support (General) (Standard Interest Rate Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 832), dated 20th March 2000, and |
(2) Relevant Functions (Payments to Authorities) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 848), dated 23rd March 2000
[by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].
Other Papers:
| 2 | Miscellaneous (No. 4, 2000),—Convention, done at Montreal on 28th May 1999, for the Unification of Certain Rules for International Carriage by Air, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Cm. 4651] [Mr Secretary Cook]. |
| 3 | Treaty Series (No. 35, 2000),—Exchange of Notes, done at London on 11th and 18th July 1997, amending the Headquarters Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and CAB International (previously known as the Commonwealth Agricultural Bureaux) [by Command] [Cm. 4650] [Mr Secretary Cook]. |
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