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Page 296 1999-2000 Volume 256 [No. 75.] Monday 3rd April 2000. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Another Amendment (No. 62) proposed to the Bill, in page 68, line 37, at the end, to insert the words ( ) Nothing in this section shall apply to any childcare provision by the employer, which shall be exempt from Class 1A National Insurance contributions.'(Mr David Willetts.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Peter Luff: 143. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Don Touhig: 265. Another Clause (Preservation of rights in respect of additional pensions)(Mr Jeff Rooker)brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill. Another Clause (Calculation of Category B retirement pension)(Angela Eagle)brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill. Another Clause (Widows' /widowers' SERPS entitlements)(Steve Webb)brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tom Brake, Mr David Heath: 26. Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr David Jamieson: 273. Another Clause (Age additions)(Mr Paul Burstow)brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Mr Andrew George: 39. Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Greg Pope: 275. Another Clause (Rate of introduction of state second pension)(Steve Webb)brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Sir Robert Smith: 36. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Greg Pope, Mrs Anne McGuire: 282. Another Clause (Date of payment of benefit)(Steve Webb)brought up, and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second timeClause, by leave, withdrawn. And it being Ten o'clock, further consideration of the Bill stood adjourned.
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Another Clause (Concurrency of pensions, rebates and extra monies)(Mrs Jacqui Lait)brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Randall, Mr Peter Luff: 151. Tellers for the Noes, Jim Dowd, Mr Robert Ainsworth: 283. Another Clause (Annual increase in basic retirement pension)(Mr John McDonnell)brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Mr Kelvin Hopkins: 75. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Robert Ainsworth, Jim Dowd: 240. Another Amendment (No. 12) proposed to the Bill, in page 26, line 33, at the end, to insert the words and, for the purposes of calculating the pensioner's earnings factor under this subsection, in addition to any earnings, the pensioner will be credited with earnings equal to the lower earnings limit then in force in respect of each week in which invalid care allowance was payable or would have been payable but for the fact that under regulations the amount payable to him was reduced to nil because of his receipt of other benefits.'.(Mr Paul Burstow.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Other Amendments (Nos. 34, 35 and 28 to 32) made to the Bill. Another Clause (Restriction on index-linking where annuity tied to investments)(Mr Jeff Rooker)brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill. Another Clause (Jurisdiction of the Pensions Ombudsman)(Mr Jeff Rooker)brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill. Another Clause (Custodianship of investments)(Mr John Butterfill)brought up and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time; Tuesday 4th April 2000 Clause, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 70) proposed to the Bill, in page 35, line 25, at the end, to insert the words (za) The word and shall be omitted and after paragraph (a) there shall be inserted ( ) that in the case of schemes which fall in a prescribed class, that such arrangements for the selection of persons nominated by pensioner members and deferred members of the scheme to be trustees of the scheme as are required by this section are made, and.'.(Mr Andrew Miller.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Clause (War widows' pensionsentitlement)(Mr David Willetts)brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr John Randall: 141. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Graham Allen: 265. Other Amendments (No. 58, 90, 60, 85, 84, 61, 97 and 45 to 47) made to the Bill. A Motion being made, That the Bill be now read the third time; Mr Jeff Rooker, by Her Majesty's Command, acquainted the House, That Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Bill, gives her Consent, as far as Her Majesty's interest is concerned, That the House may do therein as it shall think fit. Page 298 Monday 3rd April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top And the Question being put:It was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.
(1) the matter of the state of Northern Ireland agriculture, being a matter relating exclusively to Northern Ireland, be referred to the Northern Ireland Grand Committee; (2) the Committee shall meet at Westminster on Thursday 13th April at 2.30 p.m.; and (3) at that meeting (a) the Committee shall take questions for oral answer; and shall then consider the matter of the state of Northern Ireland agriculture, referred to it under paragraph (1) above; (b) the Chairman shall interrupt proceedings at 5 p.m.; and (c) at the conclusion of those proceedings a motion for the adjournment of the Committee may be moved by a Minister of the Crown pursuant to Standing Order No. 116(5) (Northern Ireland Grand Committee (sittings)).(Mr Tony McNulty.)
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-eight minutes past One o' clock on Tuesday morning, adjourned till this day. [Adjourned at 1.28 a.m. APPENDIX I Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 31st March 2000 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O., No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):
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Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 31st March 2000 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O., No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments): Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 3rd April 2000: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) London Government (Various Provisions) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 942), dated 3rd April 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
Other Papers:
Page 300 Monday 3rd April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top (i) Doncaster and South Humber Healthcare, (ii) Gloucestershire Royal, (iii) North Hampshire Hospitals, (iv) Nuffield Orthopaedic Centre, (v) Severn, and (vi) South Tees Acute Hospitals [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]; (2) Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 22nd March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the following National Health Service Trusts (i) Isle of Wight Healthcare, (ii) Priority Healthcare Wearside, and (iii) The Whittington Hospital [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]; (3) Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 27th March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by Plymouth Community Services National Health Service Trust [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]; (4) Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 30th March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by South Durham Healthcare National Health Service Trust [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]; and (5) Summarised Accounts of Health Authorities, and NHS Trusts in England, of the Dental Practice Board and Special Health Authorities providing central services in England, and of Funds held on Trust by Health Authorities, NHS Trusts, Special Health Authorities and Special Trustees in England for 199899, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 356] [Clerk of the House]. Papers withdrawn:
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(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [State Earnings-Related Pension Scheme: The failure to inform the public of reduced pension rights for widows and widowers]; to be printed [No. 401-i] [Mr David Davis].
Page 301 Monday 3rd April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top [No. 76.] Tuesday 4th April 2000. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Tuesday 11th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Tuesday 11th April.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 117].
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 13048/99, a draft Council Regulation amending Council Regulation (EEC) No. 404/93 on the common organisation of the market in bananas; and supports the Government's objective of achieving a revised EU banana regime which will not be challenged in the World Trade Organisation and which will reflect EU commitments to Caribbean and African countries, particularly the UK's traditional suppliers in the Caribbean. Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 19th May.
Ordered, That the Freedom of Information Bill, as amended, be considered in the following order, namely, amendments relating to Clauses 1 and 2, Schedule 1, Clauses 3 to 16, Schedule 2, Clauses 17 to 54, Schedule 3, Clauses 55 to 60, Schedule 4, Clauses 61 to 66, Schedule 5, Clauses 67 to 72, Schedule 6, Clauses 73 to 84, Schedule 7, Clauses 85 and 86, new Clauses and new Schedules.(Mr Tony McNulty.) Amendment (No. 100) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 7, at the end to insert the words (A1) The purpose of this Act is to facilitate public access to information held by public authorities.'(Mr David Lidington.) Page 302 Tuesday 4th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Peter Atkinson: 167. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Jamieson, Mr David Clelland: 339. Amendment (No. 44) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 33) proposed to the Bill, in page 4, to leave out lines 12 and 13.(Mr David Heath.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Sir Robert Smith, Mr Tom Brake: 156. Tellers for the Noes, Jim Dowd, Mr Greg Pope: 319. Another Amendment (No. 102) proposed to the Bill, in page 5, line 23, after the word subsection', to insert the words (1A) or'(Mr Nick Hawkins.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made. And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
Question again proposed, That Amendment (No. 102) be made. And the Question being put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Peter Atkinson: 165. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Robert Ainsworth, Mr Clive Betts: 347. Another Amendment (No. 45) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 7, line 13, to leave out from the word authority' to the end of line 34 and insert the words which is to any extent exempt or whose disclosure is not required by virtue of section 11.' instead thereof.(Dr Tony Wright.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 46) made to the Bill. Ordered, That further consideration of the Bill be now adjourned.(Mr Mike Hall.) Bill to be further considered tomorrow.
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Warm Homes and Energy Conservation Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of (a) any expenses of the Secretary of State under the Act; and (b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums which under any other Act are payable out of money so provided.(Mr Mike Hall.) Page 303 Tuesday 4th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Wednesday 5th April 2000 And the Question being put:It was agreed to. Resolved, That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Warm Homes and Energy Conservation Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of (a) any expenses of the Secretary of State under the Act; and (b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums which under any other Act are payable out of money so provided.
And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock on Tuesday evening, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without Question being put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then one minute to One o'clock on Wednesday morning, till this day. [Adjourned at 12.59 a.m. APPENDIX 1 Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Inheritance Tax (Delivery of Accounts) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 967), and (3) Inheritance Tax (Delivery of Accounts) (Scotland) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 966), dated 3rd April 2000 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].
(2) Civil Procedure (Modification of Enactments) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 941), dated 1st April 2000, and (3) Supreme Court Fees (Amendment No. 2) Order 2000, (S,I., 2000, No. 937), dated 28th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr David Lock]. Other Papers
(1) Johnston Press plc, (2) Newsquest (Investments) Limited, and (3) Trinity Mirror plc following a report from the Competition Commission [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].
(i) Norfolk and Norwich Health Care, and (ii) Swindon and Marlborough, Page 304 Tuesday 4th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top (2) Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 24th March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the following National Health Service Trusts (i) Leeds Teaching Hospitals, and (ii) Lincolnshire Ambulance and Health Transport Service, (3) Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 27th March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the following National Health Service Trusts (i) Avon and Western Wiltshire Mental Healthcare, (ii) Northallerton Health Services, and (iii) Wiltshire and Swindon Healthcare, and (4) Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 30th March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the North Tees and Hartlepool National Health Service Trust [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
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(2) Memorandum laid before the Committee [Further Government Observations on the Seventh Report from the Committee of Session 1998-99Energy Efficiency] [Mr John Horam].
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[No. 76; WH, No. 45.] Tuesday 4th April 2000. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 24th May 1999]. The sitting commenced at Ten o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 1.00 p.m. [No. 77.] Wednesday 5th April 2000. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Wednesday 12th April.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Care Standards Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill to establish a National Care Standards Commission; to make provision for the registration and regulation of children's homes, independent hospitals, independent clinics, care homes, residential family centres, independent medical agencies, domiciliary care agencies, fostering agencies and voluntary adoption agencies; to make provision for the regulation and inspection of local authority fostering and adoption services; to establish a General Social Care Council and a Care Council for Wales and make provision for the registration, regulation and training of social care workers; to make provision for the registration, regulation and training of those providing child minding or day care; to make provision for the protection of children and vulnerable adults; to amend the law about children looked after in schools and colleges; to repeal the Nurses Agencies Act 1957; and for connected purposes: to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Care Standards Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 105EN]. Page 306 Wednesday 5th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
Another Amendment (No. 107) proposed to the Bill, in page 7, line 28, to leave out from (e)' to the end of line 31 and to insert the words section 38(1)' instead thereof.(Mr Harry Cohen.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 47) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 7) proposed to the Bill, in page 8, line 8, to leave out subsection (6).(Dr Tony Wright.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Adrian Sanders, Mr Ronnie Campbell: 202. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Greg Pope, Mrs Anne McGuire: 311. Other Amendments (Nos. 48 to 54) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 110) proposed to the Bill, in page 9, line 22, to leave out Clause 16.(Mr Nick Hawkins.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Keith Simpson, Mr John Randall: 116. Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Greg Pope: 373. Another Amendment (No. 177) proposed to the Bill, in page 58, line 42, to leave out paragraph 19.(Mr Richard Shepherd.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Other Amendments (Nos. 55 to 59) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 92) proposed to the Bill, in page 12, line 1, to leave out Clause 21.(Mr Richard Shepherd.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 15) proposed to the Bill, in page 13, line 13, after the word to,', to insert the word substantially'.(Mr David Heath.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ronnie Fearn, Mr John Burnett: 37. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 336. Another Amendment (No. 39) proposed to the Bill, in page 15, line 4, at the end, to insert the words and if its disclosure under this Act would, or would be likely to, prejudice any of those purposes'.(Mr Simon Hughes.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Mr Brian Cotter: 61. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 321. Another Amendment (No. 60) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 10) proposed to the Bill, in page 18, line 32, at the end, to insert the words Page 307 Wednesday 5th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top (1A) Information is not exempt by virtue of subsection (1) or section 34 insofar as it consists of factual information.'.(Mr Simon Hughes.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Tom Brake: 190. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 317. And it being after Ten o'clock, further consideration of the Bill stood adjourned.
Another Amendment (No. 12) proposed to the Bill, in page 19, line 12, to leave out from the word if' to the word disclosure' in line 13.(Mr Robert Maclennan.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Sir Robert Smith, Mr Ronnie Fearn: 55. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Clelland, Mr Clive Betts: 324. Other Amendments (Nos. 61, 101 and 62) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 35) proposed to the Bill, in page 23, line 7, to leave out Clause 43.(Mr Simon Hughes.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Brian Cotter: 158. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Clelland, Mr Clive Betts: 325. Another Amendment (No. 63) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 64) proposed to the Bill, in page 26, line 18, to leave out Clause 48.(Mr Secretary Straw.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made; Thursday 6th April 2000 Question put and agreed to. Other Amendments (Nos. 65 to 67, 6, 69 to 71, 89, 90 and 72 to 88) made to the Bill. A Clause (Exception from duty to comply with decision notice or enforcement notice)(Mr Mike Hall)brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Don Touhig, Mr Clive Betts: 302. Tellers for the Noes, Sir Robert Smith, Jackie Ballard: 173. Clause added to the Bill. Another Clause (Information already disclosed)(Mr Richard Shepherd)brought up, and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:Clause, by leave, withdrawn. Another Clause (Duty to publish manuals etc.)(Mr Richard Shepherd)brought up, and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:Clause, by leave, withdrawn. The Bill was read the third time, and passed. Page 308 Wednesday 5th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-four minutes past One o'clock on Thursday morning, adjourned till this day. [Adjourned at 1.24 a.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(i) Cornwall Healthcare, (ii) Dewsbury Healthcare, (iii) Havering Hospitals, (iv) Nottingham City Hospital, (v) Oxford Radcliffe Hospitals, (vi) Pinderfields and Pontefract Hospitals, and (vii) Royal Devon and Exeter Healthcare, (2) Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 30th March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the Newcastle upon Tyne Hospitals National Health Service Trust, and (3) Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 3rd April 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the University Hospitals of Leicester National Health Service Trust [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
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Papers withdrawn:
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(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: John Austin, Mr Peter Bottomley, Mr Tom Brake, Mrs Helen Brinton, Sir Sydney Chapman, Mr David Chaytor, Mr John Horam, Mrs Joan Humble, Mr David Lepper, Mr Chris Mullin, Dr Doug Naysmith, Mrs Diana Organ, Mr Gordon Prentice, Mr Terry Rooney, Mr Andrew Stunell and Mr Robert Syms.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee D (transferred from Standing Committee G), and has appointed Mr Edward O'Hara and Mr Jonathan Sayeed Chairmen; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee; viz.: Ms Karen Buck, Mr David Faber, Jane Griffiths, Mr Simon Hughes, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Mr Andy King, Ms Oona King, Mr Tom Levitt, Mr David Lidington, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Mike O'Brien, Mr Andrew Rowe, Sir Robert Smith, Paddy Tipping, Mr Don Touhig and Mr Shaun Woodward.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee F, and has appointed Mr Joe Benton Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-one Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Richard Allan, Charlotte Atkins, Mr Hilary Benn, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Tom Boswell, Mr Graham Brady, Mr Peter Brooke, Mr David Chaytor, Mr James Clappison, Valerie Davey, Mr Michael Foster, Mr David Hanson, Mr John Hayes, Mr Gordon Marsden, Mr Ken Purchase, Mr Chris Ruane, Dr Phyllis Starkey, Dr Alan Whitehead, Mr Malcolm Wicks, Mr Phil Willis and Mr Michael Wills.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Ms Diane Abbott, Mr John Burnett, Mr Charles Clarke, Mr Bill Etherington, Mrs Teresa Gorman, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Fabian Hamilton, Mr Doug Henderson, Glenda Jackson, Miss Julie Kirkbride, Mr David Lidington, Mr Peter Luff, Mr John McDonnell, Mr Kevin McNamara, Mr Lembit Opik and Mr Gareth R. Thomas (Harrow West).
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr David Clelland, Mr David Drew, Barbara Follett, Mrs Llin Golding, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Tom Levitt, Mr Andrew Love, Mr Peter Luff, Judy Mallaber, Mr Mark Oaten, Mr Andrew Reed, Mrs Barbara Roche, Miss Geraldine Smith, Mr Desmond Swayne, Dr Jenny Tonge and Sir Raymond Whitney. Page 310 Wednesday 5th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
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(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [Funding of London Underground]; to be printed [No. 411-i] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
(2) Fifteenth Report from the Committee [The Procurement of Non-Combat Vehicles for the Royal Air Force]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 172]; and (3) Part of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Private Finance Initiative: The Contract for the Defence Fixed Telecommunications System]; to be printed [No. 413-i] [Mr Alan Williams].
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[No. 77; WH, No. 46.] Wednesday 5th April 2000. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 24th May 1999]. The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And it being Two o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 2.00 p.m. [No. 78.] Thursday 6th April 2000. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Bill be considered on Thursday 13th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 13th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 13th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Wednesday 19th April at Seven o'clock.
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 107]. Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 415]. Page 312 Thursday 6th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 106]. Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 414].
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Limited Liability Partnerships Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision for Limited Liability Partnerships; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Limited Liability Partnerships Bill [Lords] be printed [No. 108EN].
Ordered, That the Armed Forces Discipline Bill [Lords], as amended, be considered in the following order, namely, new Clauses; Amendments relating to Clauses Nos. 1 to 10, Schedule No. 1, Clauses Nos. 11 to 13, Schedule No. 2, Clauses Nos. 14 to 25, Schedule No. 3, Clauses Nos. 26 and 27, Schedule No. 4 and Clause No. 28; and new Schedules.(Mr Don Touhig.) Amendment (No. 13) proposed to the Bill, in page 24, line 23, to leave out from the word imprisonment' to the word or' in line 24.(Mr Crispin Blunt.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 2) proposed to the Bill, in page 29, line 24, at the end, to insert the words or (c) they are a serving Officer in the Territorial Army or the Royal Auxiliary Air Force who also hold a current practising certificate, issued by the Bar Council, Law Society or Institute of Legal Executives, to practise as a Barrister, Solicitor or Fellow of the Institute of Legal Executives and who have at least two years post qualified experience'.(Mr Robert Key.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 4) proposed to the Bill, in page 30, to leave out lines 22 to 24 and insert the words (3) An order under this section shall not be made unless a draft of the instrument has been laid before, and approved by a resolution of, each House of Parliament', instead thereof.(Mr Robert Key.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave withdrawn. Page 313 Thursday 6th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Another Amendment (No. 6) proposed to the Bill, in page 32, line 10, at the end, to insert the words (1A) The Defence Council may by regulations make provision designating those persons who, either before or after the accused has elected for trial by court-martial, may counsel him on that decision'.(Mr Robert Key.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 34, line 1, to leave out Clause No. 12.(Mr Robert Key.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read the third time; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 301. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Randall, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 113. So the Question was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed, with an Amendment.
Patten Commission Report on the Royal Ulster Constabulary,A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House welcomes the well-deserved award of the George Cross to the Royal Ulster Constabulary; condemns the Government's decision to remove its Royal title; and calls for the postponement of the implementation of other controversial recommendations in the Patten Commission Report on Policing in Northern Ireland until the new dispensation' on which it was predicated has truly arrived(Mr David Trimble); An Amendment was proposed of the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words welcomes the well-deserved award of the George Cross to the Royal Ulster Constabulary; notes that the award was made by Her Majesty in recognition of the service and sacrifices of the Royal Ulster Constabulary, which must never be forgotten; reiterates its commitment to maintaining an effective police service in Northern Ireland capable of protecting the public and maintaining law and order; and reaffirms the objective in the Good Friday Agreement of creating a new beginning to policing in Northern Ireland, with a police service capable of attracting and sustaining support from the community as a whole', instead thereof.(Mr Secretary Mandelson.) And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question; The Reverend Martin Smyth rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put. And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:It was agreed to. And the Question being accordingly put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clifford Forsyth, the Reverend Martin Smyth: 118. Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Don Touhig: 264. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):It was agreed to. The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House welcomes the well-deserved award of the George Cross to the Royal Ulster Constabulary; notes that the award was made by Her Majesty in recognition of the service and sacrifices of the Royal Ulster Constabulary, which must never be forgotten; reiterates its commitment to maintaining an effective police service in Northern Ireland capable of protecting the public and maintaining law and order; and reaffirms the objective in the Good Friday Agreement of creating a new beginning to policing in Northern Ireland, with a police service capable of attracting and sustaining support from the community as a whole. Page 314 Thursday 6th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
The Lords have agreed to the Amendment made by this House to the Armed Forces Discipline Bill [Lords], without Amendment.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty minutes to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 7.40 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
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APPENDIX II Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Controls over Firearms] [Mr Robin Corbett]. [No. 78; WH, No. 47.] Thursday 6th April 2000. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 24th May 1999]. The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 11th April. [Adjourned at 5.44 p.m. Page 316 Thursday 6th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top [No. 79.] Friday 7th April 2000. The House met at half-past Nine o'clock. PRAYERS.
Mr Secretary Smith acquainted the House, That he had it in Command from the Queen to acquaint the House that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Bill, had consented to place Her prerogative, so far as it is affected by the Bill, at the disposal of Parliament for the purposes of the Bill. And a Motion being made, That the Bill be now read a second time; Mr Andrew Dismore moved, That the House sit in private. The Speaker put the Question forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 163 (Motions to sit in private). The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Dismore, Mr Ian Stewart: 0. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tom Levitt, Mrs Helen Brinton: 30. And it appearing on the report of the Division that fewer than forty Members had taken part in the Division, the Speaker declared that the Question was not decided, and the business under consideration stood over until the next sitting of the House.
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time; Mr Ken Livingstone rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put. And the Question being put, That the Question be now put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ian Stewart, David Taylor: 74. Tellers for the Noes, Mr James Gray, Mr David Maclean: 0. Whereupon the Deputy Speaker declared that the Question was not decided in the Affirmative because it was not supported by the majority prescribed by Standing Order No. 37 (Majority for closure or for proposal of Question). And it being half-past Two o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned. Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Friday 14th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 21st July.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 21st July.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 19th May.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 14th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 14th April. Page 317 Friday 7th April 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 14th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 14th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 14th April.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 19th May.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till one minute to Three o'clock, adjourned till Monday next. [Adjourned at 2.59 p.m. APPENDIX Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) Chancellor of the Exchequer's Departments: HM Treasury, Government Actuary's Department, National Investment and Loans Office, National Savings, Office for National Statistics, Registry of Friendly Societies and Financial Transactions with European Community Institutions [by Command] [Cm. 4615] [Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer]; and (2) Department for Education and Employment, with a Summary [by Command] [Cm. 4602] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
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