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Page 536 1999-2000 Volume 256 [No. 139.] Monday 24th July 2000. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 13540/99, a draft Council Directive establishing a general framework for equal treatment in employment and occupation; and supports the Government's welcome for the principle of such action whilst remaining convinced of the need for the proposals to be made clear and workable; and notes the Government's intention to negotiate to this end, and to ensure that the proposals take proper account of the legitimate concerns of employers and make a real difference to the lives of those whom they are designed to protect. Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
The Lords have agreed to the Sea Fishing Grants (Charges) Bill, without Amendment. The Lords have agreed to certain of the Amendments made by this House to the Local Government Bill [Lords], without Amendment; they have agreed to another of the Amendments made by this House and propose Amendments in lieu of the words so left out of the Bill, to which they desire the concurrence of this House; they have disagreed to certain other of the Amendments made by this House, for which disagreement they assign their Reasons; they have agreed to certain other of the Amendments made by this House, with Amendments, to which they desire the concurrence of this House; and they have agreed to the remaining Amendment made by this House, and have made a consequential Amendment to the Bill, to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
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Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 16 were agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 17. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Mr Jeff Rooker); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Jamieson, Jim Dowd: 287. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Donald Gorrie, Mr Andrew Stunell: 26. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 18 was disagreed to. Lords Amendments Nos. 19 to 25 were agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 26 was disagreed to. Lords Amendments Nos. 27 to 84 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendment No. 39. Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 17, 18 and 26.(Mr Clive Betts.) Ordered, That Mr Richard Burden, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr John Randall and Mr Jeff Rooker be members of the Committee.(Mr Clive Betts.) Ordered, That Mr Jeff Rooker be the Chairman of the Committee.(Mr Clive Betts.) Ordered, That three be the quorum of the Committee.(Mr Clive Betts.) Ordered, That the Committee do withdraw immediately.(Mr Clive Betts.)
Resolved, That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Government Resources and Accounts Bill, it is expedient to authorise refunds of money paid into the National Loans Fund as the result of an error.(Mr Clive Betts.)
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments Nos. 17, 18 and 26, for the following Reason: Because they would involve charges on public funds; and the Commons do not offer any further Reason, trusting that this Reason may be deemed sufficient. The Reason was agreed to. Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reason, with the Bill and Amendments.
Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 4 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 3 and 4. Page 538 Monday 24th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Lords Amendment No. 5. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Miss Melanie Johnson); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Don Touhig, Mr Clive Betts: 311. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Peter Atkinson: 158. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 6 was disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 7 was disagreed to. Amendments ((a) and (b)) were made to the Bill, in lieu of the Lords Amendment disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 8 was disagreed to. Lords Amendments Nos. 9 to 15 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges. Lords Amendment No. 16. A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment; And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Don Touhig, Mr Tony McNulty: 296. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Andrew Stunell: 104. So the Question was agreed to. Resolved, That, at this day's sitting, the Government Resources and Accounts Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour.
Lords Amendment No. 16. The House resumed the adjourned Debate on the Question, That the House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment; And the Question being put:It was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly agreed to. Lords Amendments Nos. 17 to 26 agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 17 to 23 and 26. Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 5, 6 and 8.(Mr Graham Allen.) Ordered, That Mr Graham Allen, Mr John Healey, Miss Melanie Johnson, Mr Oliver Letwin and Mr Keith Simpson be members of the Committee.(Mr Graham Allen.) Ordered, That Miss Melanie Johnson be the Chairman of the Committee.(Mr Graham Allen.) Ordered, That three be the quorum of the Committee.(Mr Graham Allen.) Ordered, That the Committee do withdraw immediately.(Mr Graham Allen.)
Page 539 Monday 24th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments Nos. 5, 6 and 8, for the following Reason: Because the Amendments would alter the financial accounting and audit arrangements made by the Commons; and the Commons do not offer any further Reason, hoping that the above Reason may be deemed sufficient. The Reason was agreed to. Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reason, with the Bill.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till ten minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.50 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) Logistic Information Systems Agency, and (2) Royal Air Force Personnel Management Agency for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 716 and 686] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. Page 540 Monday 24th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
(1) Scottish Further Education Funding Council, and (2) Scottish Higher Education Funding Council, for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 838 and 840] [Clerk of the House].
(1) Castle Vale Housing Action Trust, (2) Liverpool Housing Action Trust, and (3) Tower Hamlets Housing Action Trust for 19992000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
(1) Arts Council of Wales Lottery Distribution, and (2) Scottish Arts Council National Lottery Distribution Fund, for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 846 and 837] [Clerk of the House].
APPENDIX II Standing Committees
Page 541 Monday 24th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Tenth Special Report from the Committee [Government Observations on the Third Report from the Committee, Session 19992000, on the Future of the Export Credits Guarantee Department]; to be printed [No. 849]; and (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Post Office Services: Progress Report]; to be printed [No. 724-iii] [Mr Martin O'Neill]. [No. 140.] Tuesday 25th July 2000. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time on Wednesday 25th October.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Wednesday 25th October.
The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Mike Hall: 302. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Atkinson, Mr Stephen Day: 115. So the Question was agreed to. Resolved, That this House takes note of European Union Document No. 13540/99, a draft Council Directive establishing a general framework for equal treatment in employment and occupation; and supports the Government's welcome for the principle of such action whilst remaining convinced of the need for the proposals to be made clear and workable; and notes the Government's intention to negotiate to this end, and to ensure that the proposals take proper account of the legitimate concerns of employers and make a real difference to the lives of those whom they are designed to protect. Page 542 Tuesday 25th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Mike Hall: 337. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Peter Atkinson: 115. So the Question was agreed to. Resolved, That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 67) on Heads', Deputies' and Advanced Skills Teachers' Performance Pay Progression and Deputies' Assimilation (House of Commons Paper No. 569), which was laid before this House on 28th June, be approved.
The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Clelland, Mr David Jamieson: 351. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Randall, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 113. So the Question was agreed to. Resolved, That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 68) on the 2000/2001 Special Grant for Kosovan Evacuees (House of Commons Paper No. 636), which was laid before this House on 6th July, be approved.
The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Clelland, Mr David Jamieson: 353. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr John Randall: 112. So the Question was agreed to. Resolved, That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 65): Invest to Save Grant (House of Commons Paper No. 707), which was laid before this House on 12th July, be approved.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation) and Order [17th July], That, in respect of service from 1st April 2000, the Data Protection Commissioner shall be paid a salary of £68,212 per annum(Mr Greg Pope); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr David Clelland: 359. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Atkinson, Mr Stephen Day: 113. So the Question was agreed to. Resolved, That, in respect of service from 1st April 2000, the Data Protection Commissioner shall be paid a salary of £68,212 per annum.
Page 543 Tuesday 25th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Timetable 1. Proceedings on Consideration and Third Reading of the Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) (No. 2) Bill shall be completed at today's sitting and shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion five hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Motion. Questions to be put 2.(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings on the Bill to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 1. (2) The Speaker shall put forthwith the following Questions (but no others) (a) any Question already proposed from the Chair; (b) any Question necessary to bring to a decision a Question so proposed; (c) the Question on any amendment moved or Motion made by a Minister of the Crown; (d) any other Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded. (3) On a Motion made for a new Clause or Schedule, the Speaker shall put only the Question that the Clause or Schedule be added to the Bill. (4) If two or more Questions would otherwise fall to be put under sub-paragraph (2)(c) on amendments moved or Motions made by a Minister of the Crown, the Speaker shall instead put a single Question in relation to those amendments or Motions. Miscellaneous 3. Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply at today's sitting to proceedings to which this Order applies. 4. Proceedings to which this Order applies shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House. 5. No Motion shall be made to alter the order in which proceedings on the Bill are taken or to recommit the Bill. 6. No dilatory Motion shall be made in relation to the Bill except by a Minister of the Crown; and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith. 7.(1) This paragraph applies if (a) a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) has been stood over to Seven o'clock; and (b) proceedings on this Motion have begun before then. (2) The bringing to a conclusion of any proceedings which, under this Order, are to be brought to a conclusion after that time, shall be postponed for a period equal to the duration of the proceedings on the Motion for the Adjournment of the House. 8. Standing Order No. 82 (Business Committee) shall not apply to the Bill. Supplemental orders 9. The proceedings on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after they have been commenced; and Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to those proceedings. 10. If at today's sitting the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the expiry of the period at the end of which any proceedings are to be brought to a conclusion under this Order, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order (Mr Secretary Straw); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 6, to leave out the word five', and to insert the word eight', instead thereof.(Mr Edward Garnier.) And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Peter Atkinson: 170. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Clive Betts, Jim Dowd: 311. So the Question was negatived. Page 544 Tuesday 25th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top And the Main Question being put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clive Betts, Jim Dowd: 306. Tellers for the Noes, Sir Robert Smith, Mr Stephen Day: 180. So the Question was agreed to. Ordered, That the following provisions shall apply to the remaining proceedings on the Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) (No. 2) Bill Timetable 1. Proceedings on Consideration and Third Reading of the Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) (No. 2) Bill shall be completed at today's sitting and shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion five hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Motion. Questions to be put 2.(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings on the Bill to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 1. (2) The Speaker shall put forthwith the following Questions (but no others) (a) any Question already proposed from the Chair; (b) any Question necessary to bring to a decision a Question so proposed; (c) the Question on any amendment moved or Motion made by a Minister of the Crown; (d) any other Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded. (3) On a Motion made for a new Clause or Schedule, the Speaker shall put only the Question that the Clause or Schedule be added to the Bill. (4) If two or more Questions would otherwise fall to be put under sub-paragraph (2)(c) on amendments moved or Motions made by a Minister of the Crown, the Speaker shall instead put a single Question in relation to those amendments or Motions. Miscellaneous 3. Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply at today's sitting to proceedings to which this Order applies. 4. Proceedings to which this Order applies shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House. 5. No Motion shall be made to alter the order in which proceedings on the Bill are taken or to recommit the Bill. 6. No dilatory Motion shall be made in relation to the Bill except by a Minister of the Crown; and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith. 7.(1) This paragraph applies if (a) a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) has been stood over to Seven o'clock; and (b) proceedings on this Motion have begun before then. (2) The bringing to a conclusion of any proceedings which, under this Order, are to be brought to a conclusion after that time, shall be postponed for a period equal to the duration of the proceedings on the Motion for the Adjournment of the House. 8. Standing Order No. 82 (Business Committee) shall not apply to the Bill. Supplemental orders 9. The proceedings on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after they have been commenced; and Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to those proceedings. 10. If at today's sitting the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the expiry of the period at the end of which any proceedings are to be brought to a conclusion under this Order, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order.
A Clause (Committal for sentence)(Mr David Kidney)was brought up and read the first time. Page 545 Tuesday 25th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second timeClause, by leave, withdrawn. Amendment (No. 5) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 12, at the end, to insert the words (aa) any written representations from the victim;'.(Mr Humfrey Malins.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made; And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
Question again proposed, That the Amendment (No. 5) be made; And it being five hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion relating to Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) (No. 2) Bill (Allocation of Time), the Deputy Speaker put forthwith the Question already proposed from the Chair. Question, that the Amendment be made, put and negatived. The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the remaining Question necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour. Question put, That the Bill be now read the third time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Robert Ainsworth: 282. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Atkinson, Mr Stephen Day: 199. So the Question was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.
Lords Amendments in lieu of words left out of the Bill by Commons Amendment No. 10 (Nos. 2 to 12) agreed to. Lords Reason for disagreeing to Commons Amendments Nos. 71 to 73 (Nos. 13 to 15) considered; Resolved, That this House does not insist on its Amendments to which the Lords have disagreed.(Hilary Armstrong.) Lords Amendments to Commons Amendments No. 74, 120 and 121 (Nos. 17, 19, 21 and 22) agreed to. Lords Reason for disagreeing to Commons Amendment No. 225 (No. 23) considered; Resolved, That this House does not insist on its Amendment to which the Lords have disagreed.(Hilary Armstrong.) Lords Amendment to the Bill consequential on Commons Amendment No. 371 (No. 25) agreed to. Lords Reason for disagreeing to Commons Amendment No. 377 (No. 26) considered; A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House does not insist on its Amendment to which the Lords have disagreed(Hilary Armstrong); Wednesday 26th July 2000 And the Question being put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Don Touhig: 381. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John McDonnell, Dr Evan Harris: 36. So the Question was agreed to. Page 546 Tuesday 25th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Resolved, That this House does not insist on its Amendment to which the Lords have disagreed.(Hilary Armstrong.) Lords Reason for disagreeing to Commons Amendments Nos. 378, 388 and 389 (Nos. 27 to 29) considered; Resolved, That this House does not insist on its Amendments to which the Lords have disagreed.(Hilary Armstrong.) Lords Amendments to Commons Amendments Nos. 437, 456, 474 and (Nos. 31 to 35, 37, 39 and 40) agreed to. Lords Reason for disagreeing to Commons Amendment No. 482 (No. 41) considered; Resolved, That this House does not insist on its Amendment to which the Lords have disagreed.(Hilary Armstrong.)
Lords Amendments to Commons Amendments Nos. 180 and 182 agreed to.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till ten minutes to Four o'clock on Wednesday morning, adjourned till this day. [Adjourned at 3.50 a.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science, (2) Meat Hygiene Service, and (3) Veterinary Laboratories Agency for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 752, 693 and 815] [Mr Nicholas Brown].
(1) Defence Vetting Agency, and (2) Ministry of Defence Police Chief Constable for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 718 and 609] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
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(1) KPMG: HM Treasury and ECGDECGD Risk Management Review (2) NERANational Economic Research Associates: The Economic Rationale for the Public Provision of Export Credit Insurance by ECGD (3) Report on the Provision of ECGD Reinsurance for Exports Sold on Short Terms of Payment, and (4) Review of ECGD's Mission and Status [by Command] [Cm. 4792, 4791, 4793 and 4790] [Mr Secretary Byers].
(1) Companies House, (2) the Forensic Science Service, and (2) the Vehicle Inspectorate for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 651, 655 and 626] [Clerk of the House].
(2) Report of the National Lottery Commission for 19992000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].
(1) Benefits Agency, (2) Child Support Agency, Page 548 Tuesday 25th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top (3) Information Technology Services Agency, and (4) War Pensions Agency for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 618, 658, 680 and 615] [Mr Secretary Darling]. APPENDIX II Reports from Select Committees
(2) Seventh Special Report from the Committee [Government's and OFSTED's Response to the Sixth Report from the Committee on Standards and Quality in Education: the Annual Report of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Schools 199899]; to be printed [No. 861]; and (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee [Higher Education]; to be printed [No. 400-xiv] [Mr Barry Sheerman].
(2) Ninth Report from the Committee [Gibraltar: Follow Up], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 863] [Mr Donald Anderson].
(2) Sixth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the First Report from the Committee, on The Export Credits Guarantee DepartmentDevelopmental Issues]; to be printed [No. 862]; and (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [HIV/AIDS and Social and Economic Development]; to be printed [No. 558-vii] [Mr Bowen Wells].
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Cancer ResearchA Fresh Look] [Dr Michael Clark].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Economic and Monetary Union]; to be printed [No. 573-vi] [Mr Giles Radice]. Page 549 Tuesday 25th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top [No. 140; WH, No. 85.] Tuesday 25th July 2000. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 24th May 1999]. The sitting commenced at Ten o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 12.57 p.m. [No. 141.] Wednesday 26th July 2000. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
I have received your Address concerning the One Hundredth Birthday of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth. It give me great pleasure to hear of the loyal affection of the House and the nation on this special occasion and to ensure that your message is conveyed to Queen Elizabeth.
Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Wednesday 25th October.
The Lords do not insist on their Amendments to the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill, to which this House has disagreed. The Lords do not insist on certain of their Amendments to the Government Resources and Accounts Bill, to which this House has disagreed, and do not insist on their remaining Amendment to that Bill, and have agreed without Amendment to the Amendments proposed by this House in lieu of that Amendment. The Lords have agreed to the Football (Disorder) Bill, with Amendments; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
In 1992, when this House elected me to be Speaker, I pledged two things: to do my best to justify its confidence, and to do all in my powers to preserve and to cherish its traditions. Now, as I prepare to lay down this great office, it is for you to judge my performance against those promises. Be assured that on this occasion I shall not rule you out of order! Page 550 Wednesday 26th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top For my part, being Speaker has afforded me a unique opportunity to serve Parliament, for which I am immensely grateful. However, before I go further, I wish to thank those who have given me such loyal service throughout the years. Althoughthank goodness for me, and for you tooI have not come anywhere near Speaker Onslow's record of 31 years in this Chair, I have nevertheless seen three Clerks of the House, each giving invaluable serviceSir Clifford Boulton, Sir Donald Limon and the current occupant, Bill McKay. To each of them I owe a very great deal. I also wish to pay tribute to my two Secretaries. Sir Peter Kitcatt steered me through the first very strange and very demanding days of my new job and gave me absolutely splendid support. I was very fortunate, too, in his successor, Nicolas Bevan, who came new to the House, but swiftly acquired an encyclopaedic knowledge not only of Members' names and interests, but of the ways of Westminster. Since 1993 he has been constantly at my side, whether in this House or on visits abroadnever tiring, never ruffled, but showing great patience, great loyalty and personal commitment. My very best thanks go to Nicolas. I owe a debt of thanks also to the others who have served on my office and constituency staff, and on my personal staff in Speaker's Houseand, of course, to the Deputy Speakers who throughout the years have supported me so well. When I first entered the House, the Speaker was Selwyn Lloyd, and I recall his leaving speech. He paid very generous tribute to the Members of those days, but he went out of his way to mention what he described as their collective faults. He summed those up as long-windedness, sedentary interruptions, points of order that are not points of order, and an inability to scrutinise Bills and statutory instruments as they should be scrutinised. Things do not change much, do they? One of the privileges of the Speaker is to be able to represent this House abroad, both at Speaker's Conferences and on bilateral visits. I am glad to have been able to accept invitations to represent Westminster in every continent, and to have visited many countries, both large and small, on your behalf. What has always come across clearly to me is the respect felt abroad for the British system of parliamentary democracy. It comes across especially among the emerging democracies of central and eastern Europe, where there is a very keen desire to learn from our experience as they develop their own systems of governance. I know that the advice and assistance that we are able to give at both parliamentary and staff level is enormously appreciated. Sadly, however, I have to say that the high reputation of Westminster abroad is not entirely reflected at home. I know from my postbag how much disillusionment about the political process there is among the general public. The level of cynicism about Parliament, and the accompanying alienation of many of the young from the democratic process, is troubling. It is an issue on which every Member of the House should wish to reflect. It is our responsibility, each and every one of us, to do what we can to develop and build public trust and confidence. Let us make a start by remembering that the function of Parliament is to hold the Executive to account. That is the role for which history has cast the Commons. It is the core task of Membersnot merely to act as the representatives of their constituents, important though that certainly is. It is in Parliament in the first instance that Ministers must explain and justify their policies. Since becoming Speaker in 1992, I have made my views known about that, both publicly and behind the scenes to both Governments. I have taken action to ensure that those who advise Ministers should never overlook the primacy of Parliament. This is the chief forum of the nationtoday, tomorrow and, I hope, for ever. Question time offers a prime opportunity to hold Ministers to account. I share the disappointment at the slow progress that is made. Too many backbench Members are being deprived, by the long-windedness of colleagues, of their chance to question Ministers. We are not moving down the Order Paper as we should. There is also an issue of quality as well as quantity. There is, from time to time, a risk that engagement with the real issues is seen to be overshadowed by political point-scoring simply for its own sake. Parliament's other prime function is the scrutiny of Government legislation. There is, I believe, throughout the House a general recognition that this is an area ripe for improvement. Committees of the House, as well as outside bodies, are making a substantial contribution to the debate. The issues are serious and complex, and there is no simple solution. The debate should not be conducted, however, on party linesnor on the simplistic basis of the Executive versus the rest of us. The objective, to my mind, must be improved scrutiny leading to better legislation, perhaps through the greater use of pre-legislative arrangements; I think that they might be useful to us. In addition, the issue is as much one of quality of scrutiny as of quantity. Furthermore, the House must be prepared to put in the hours necessary to carry out effective examination of the Government's legislative programme. If that means long days, or rearrangement of the parliamentary year, so be it. Of course, I have been here Page 551 Wednesday 26th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top long enough to recognise the importance of enabling parliamentarians to enjoy a domestic life. It should not be impossible to meet both objectivesbut where there is a clash, the requirements of effective scrutiny and the democratic process must take priority over the convenience of Members. Those of you who were here when I submitted myself to the will of the House in 1992 will recall that I said, in all honesty, that for me the Commons had never been just a career, it had been my life. Now, after eight and a half years as Speaker, that is more true than ever. Quite apart from the honour of being Speaker, and the many fascinations of the work, I have enjoyed the job, every minute of itwell, almost every minute of it. That has been helped by the fact that I have presided over a House containing so many characters and so many stalwart Members, on whom it depends so much. I have not had a boring day in my working life, and for all that, I am grateful to all of you. When I came to the conclusion that it was right for me to go, my thoughts went to that famous passage in the Book of Ecclesiastes, about there being a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance. Well, my dancing days are long past, and I promise the House that I shall not weep, but I shall certainly mourn the fact that an all-important phase of my life has come to a natural end. However, it is time for laughter as well, as we remember all the lighter moments that we have enjoyed. I say to you, rejoice in your inheritance, defend your rights and remember always that the privileges the House enjoys were dearly won and must never be squandered. You elected me in the springtime and I shall retire in the autumn, which marks a fitting seasonal conclusion to my period in office. Therefore I say to you all, in a phrase that you all know well, but which has never been more true than now: Time's up. Resolved, nemine contradicente, That this House records its appreciation of the great distinction with which the Right Honourable Betty Boothroyd has occupied the office of Speaker; congratulates her on the skilful manner in which she has upheld the authority and dignity of this House; appreciates the wisdom, good humour and skill with which she has presided over its affairs, which are universally admired both in this country and abroad; and accordingly expresses its warmest thanks to the Right Honourable Member for her many services to this House; and unites in wishing her a long and happy retirement.(The Prime Minister.)
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 90 (Second reading committees), That the Bill be now read a second timeIt was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.
Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 12, after the word religion', to insert the words or for giving a false answer to that question'.(Mr Richard Ottaway.) Question put, That the Amendment be made; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Keith Simpson, Mrs Eleanor Laing: 184. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr Robert Ainsworth: 331. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read the third time; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Robert Ainsworth, Mr Kevin Hughes: 355. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Eric Forth, Dr Evan Harris: 4. So the Question was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed, with an Amendment.
Page 552 Wednesday 26th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Resolved, That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of (a) any expenditure attributable to arrangements under the Act for the making of contributions towards costs incurred by persons for purposes connected with, or with the provision of assistance in relation to, interception warrants; and (b) any allowances payable under the Act to the Intelligence Services Commissioner.(Mr Mike Hall.)
Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 163 agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 17 to 19, 86, 88 and 97.
(1) residents of Cambridge and the County of Cambridgeshire against the current Education Standard Spending Assessment scheme, and (2) residents of Aylesbury and surrounding areas opposing discrimination by the broadcasting authorities against religious bodies were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
And it being Ten o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
And the Motion having been made at Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.30 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Employment Tribunals (Constitution and Rules of Procedure) (Scotland) (Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 1988), dated 24th July 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].
Other Papers:
(1) Queen Victoria School, and (2) Royal Air Force Signals Engineering Establishment for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 703 and 672] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. Page 553 Wednesday 26th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
(1) Registers of Scotland, and (2) the United Kingdom Hydrographic Office for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 649 and 633] [Clerk of the House].
(2) Statement of Accounts for the Scottish Legal Aid Board for 19992000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].
(1) Scottish Agricultural Science Agency, (2) Scottish Public Pensions Agency for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 749 and 738] [Mr Secretary Reid].
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(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee A; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Peter Atkinson, Mrs Liz Blackman, Mr John Burnett, Mr Paul Clark, Mr Tony Colman, Mr Edward Garnier, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr Lindsay Hoyle, Page 554 Wednesday 26th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Mr Alan Hurst, Ms Jenny Jones, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Mr Elfyn Llwyd, Mr David Lock, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Patrick Nicholls and Mr Bill Tynan.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Dr Ashok Kumar Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Norman Baker, Sir Paul Beresford, Mr Tom Brake, Julia Drown, Mr Barry Gardiner, Mr Nick Gibb, Dr Ian Gibson, Ms Harriet Harman, Dr Kim Howells, Mr Michael Jack, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mr Greg Pope, Mr Mohammad Sarwar, Mr Marsha Singh, Mr Jon Trickett and Mr Derek Twigg.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Orders to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Richard Allan, Mr Clive Betts, Mr David Borrow, Mrs Helen Brinton, Mr James Clappison, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr David Curry, Mr Christopher Fraser, Mrs Llin Golding, Mr Ivan Henderson, Mr Lawrie Quinn, Jacqui Smith, Rachel Squire, Mr Paul Stinchcombe, Mr Phil Willis and Mr David Winnick.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Order to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr John McWilliam Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Richard Allan, Mr Clive Betts, Mrs Liz Blackman, Ms Hazel Blears, Mr Tim Boswell, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Quentin Davies, Mr Hilton Dawson, Mr Alan Duncan, Dr Evan Harris, Mr Alan Hurst, Ms Jenny Jones, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Mr Bill Rammell, Dr Alan Whitehead and Mr Malcolm Wicks. European Standing Committees
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(2) Ninth Report from the Committee [MAFF/Intervention Board Departmental Report 2000], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 610]; (3) Sixth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Fifth Report from the Committee, on the Government's Proposals for Organophosphate Sheep Dips], together with Appendices; to be printed [No. 865]; and (4) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Genetically Modified Organisms and Seed Segregation; Organic Farming] [Mr David Curry].
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Marking the Millennium in the United Kingdom]; (3) Ninth Report from the Committee [Report and Accounts of the BBC for 19992000]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 719]; and Page 555 Wednesday 26th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top (4) Third Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Sixth Report from the Committee on Public Libraries]; to be printed [No. 867] [Mr Gerald Kaufman].
(2) Thirteenth Report from the Committee [Iraqi No-Fly Zones], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 453] [Mr Bruce George].
(2) Seventeenth Report from the Committee [The Departmental Annual Report 2000 and Expenditure Plans 200001 to 200102], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 471]; (3) Eighteenth Report from the Committee [Air Service Agreements between the United Kingdom and the United States], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 532]; (4) Third Special Report from the Committee [Environment Agency Response to the Sixth Report from the Committee, on The Environment Agency] [No. 870]; (5) Fourth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Ninth Report from the Committee, on Travelling Fairs] [No. 871]; (6) Fifth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Eighth Report from the Committee, on Light Rapid Transit Systems] [No. 872]; and (7) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [Ten-Year Plan for Transport]; to be printed [No. 726-i] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
(2) Fifth Report from the Committee [Public Expenditure in Northern Ireland: Inward Investment], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 198]; and (3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Miscellaneous] [Mr Peter Brooke].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Special Advisers]; to be printed [No. 821-ii] [Tony Wright]. Page 556 Wednesday 26th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
(2) Fourth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Fourth Report from the Committee, on Social Security and Child Support Commissioners]; to be printed [No. 868]; and (3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Pensioner Poverty] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].
(2) Eighth Report from the Committee [Economic and Monetary Union], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 573]; and (3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Economic and Monetary Union] [Mr Giles Radice]. [No. 141; WH, No. 86.] Wednesday 26th July 2000. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 24th May 1999]. The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 1.59 p.m. [No. 142.] Thursday 27th July 2000. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 26th October.
The Lords have agreed to the Amendment made by this House to the Census (Amendment) Bill [Lords], without Amendment. Insolvency Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill to amend the law about insolvency; to amend the Company Directors Disqualification Act 1986; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Insolvency Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 173EN].
Page 557 Thursday 27th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Lords Amendments 1. Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments shall be completed at today's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion two hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Order. 2.(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 1. (2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided. (3) If that Question is for the amendment of a Lords Amendment, the Speaker shall then put forthwith (a) a single Question on any further Amendments of the Lords Amendment moved by a Minister of the Crown, and (b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended. (4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith (a) a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to a Lords Amendment, and (b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in the Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended. (5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House disagrees with the Lords in a Lords Amendment. (6) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Amendments. (7) As soon as the House has agreed or disagreed with the Lords in any of their Amendments, or disposed of an Amendment relevant to a Lords Amendment which has been disagreed to, the Speaker shall put forthwith a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown relevant to the Lords Amendment. Subsequent stages 3.(1) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the consideration forthwith of any further Message from the Lords on the Bill. (2) The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement. (3) Sub-paragraphs (4) to (7) apply for the purpose of bringing those proceedings to a conclusion. (4) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided. (5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown which is related to the Question already proposed from the Chair. (6) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown on or relevant to any of the remaining items in the Lords Message. (7) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Proposals. Reasons Committee 4. The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons and the appointment of its Chairman. 5.(1) A Committee appointed to draw up Reasons shall report before the conclusion of the sitting at which it is appointed. (2) Proceedings in the Committee shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion 30 minutes after their commencement. (3) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with sub-paragraph (2) the Chairman shall (a) first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided; and Page 558 Thursday 27th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top (b) then put forthwith successively Questions on motions which may be made by a Minister of the Crown for assigning a Reason for disagreeing with the Lords in any of their Amendments. (4) The proceedings of the Committee shall be reported without any further Question being put. Miscellaneous 6. If the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the expiry of the period at the end of which proceedings are to be brought to a conclusion under this Order, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order. 7.(1) In this paragraph the proceedings' means proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments and on any further Message from the Lords on the Bill. (2) Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to the proceedings. (3) The proceedings shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House. (4) No dilatory Motion with respect to, or in the course of, the proceedings shall be made except by a Minister of the Crown; and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith. 8.(1) This paragraph applies if (a) a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) has been stood over to Seven o'clock; and (b) proceedings on this Motion have begun before then. (2) The bringing to a conclusion of any proceedings which, under this Order, are to be brought to a conclusion after that time, shall be postponed for a period equal to the duration of the proceedings on the Motion for the Adjournment of the House(Mr David Jamieson); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Clelland, Mr Mike Hall: 276. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Randall, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 141. So the Question was agreed to. Ordered, That the Order of the House of 17th July be supplemented as follows: Lords Amendments 1. Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments shall be completed at today's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion two hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Order. 2.(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 1. (2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided. (3) If that Question is for the amendment of a Lords Amendment, the Speaker shall then put forthwith (a) a single Question on any further Amendments of the Lords Amendment moved by a Minister of the Crown, and (b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended. (4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith (a) a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to a Lords Amendment, and (b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in the Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended. (5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House disagrees with the Lords in a Lords Amendment. (6) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Amendments. Page 559 Thursday 27th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top (7) As soon as the House has agreed or disagreed with the Lords in any of their Amendments, or disposed of an Amendment relevant to a Lords Amendment which has been disagreed to, the Speaker shall put forthwith a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown relevant to the Lords Amendment. Subsequent stages 3.(1) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the consideration forthwith of any further Message from the Lords on the Bill. (2) The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement. (3) Sub-paragraphs (4) to (7) apply for the purpose of bringing those proceedings to a conclusion. (4) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided. (5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown which is related to the Question already proposed from the Chair. (6) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown on or relevant to any of the remaining items in the Lords Message. (7) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Proposals. Reasons Committee 4. The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons and the appointment of its Chairman. 5.(1) A Committee appointed to draw up Reasons shall report before the conclusion of the sitting at which it is appointed. (2) Proceedings in the Committee shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion 30 minutes after their commencement. (3) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with sub-paragraph (2) the Chairman shall (a) first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided; and (b) then put forthwith successively Questions on motions which may be made by a Minister of the Crown for assigning a Reason for disagreeing with the Lords in any of their Amendments. (4) The proceedings of the Committee shall be reported without any further Question being put. Miscellaneous 6. If the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the expiry of the period at the end of which proceedings are to be brought to a conclusion under this Order, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order. 7.(1) In this paragraph the proceedings' means proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments and on any further Message from the Lords on the Bill. (2) Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to the proceedings. (3) The proceedings shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House. (4) No dilatory Motion with respect to, or in the course of, the proceedings shall be made except by a Minister of the Crown; and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith. 8.(1) This paragraph applies if (a) a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) has been stood over to Seven o'clock; and (b) proceedings on this Motion have begun before then. (2) The bringing to a conclusion of any proceedings which, under this Order, are to be brought to a conclusion after that time, shall be postponed for a period equal to the duration of the proceedings on the Motion for the Adjournment of the House. Page 560 Thursday 27th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 4 were agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 5. A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment; And it being two hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion relating to Football (Disorder) Bill (Supplemental Allocation of Time), the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day] put the Question already proposed from the Chair. Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment (No. 5), put and agreed to. The Deputy Speaker then put the Question necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour. Lords Amendments Nos. 6 to 22 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 16 and 17.
Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 11 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 8, 9 and 11. Lords Amendment No. 12. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said Amendment; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Robert Ainsworth: 281. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Randall, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 116. So the Question was agreed to. Lords Amendments Nos. 13 to 72 were agreed to. And it being Seven o'clock, further consideration of the Lords Amendments stood adjourned.
Lords Amendment No. 73 was agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 74. An Amendment ((c)) was proposed to the Lords Amendment, in line 3, to leave out from the word holder' to the end of line 8 and to insert the words the turnover being determined on the applicable turnover for the business year preceding the date when the infringement ended and shall in any case not exceed a period of 12 months'.(Mr Nick Gibb.) Question put, That the Amendment be made to the Lords Amendment. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr John Randall: 120. Tellers for the Noes, Jim Dowd, Mr Don Touhig: 257. The Lords Amendment was agreed to. Lords Amendments Nos. 75 to 245 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendment No. 203.
Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 65 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 33 and 34. Page 561 Thursday 27th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top Lords Amendment No. 66. An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Lords Amendment, in line 4, to leave out from the word calculated' to the end and to insert the words in accordance with market rates'.(Mr John Bercow.) Question put, That the Amendment be made to the Lords Amendment. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Randall, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 107. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 226. The Lords Amendment was agreed to. Lords Amendments Nos. 67 to 171 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 124, 125, 149 and 154.
(1) residents of the Don Valley constituency and others for the proposed Doncaster Finningley Airport, and (2) residents of Thorrington and others against the housing of asylum seekers at Silver Springs in Thorrington were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till seventeen minutes past Nine o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 9.17 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Social Security (Joint Claims: Consequential Amendments) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 1982), dated 24th July 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].
Other Papers:
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(1) Civil Service College, and (2) Government Car and Despatch Agency for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 829 and 816] [Marjorie Mowlam].
(1) Defence Analytical Services Agency, and (2) Defence Storage and Distribution Agency (3) Disposal Sales Agency for 19992000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 827, 654 and 711] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
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(2) Paper, entitled The NHS Plan: a plan for investment, a plan for reform, and (3) Paper, entitled The NHS Plan: The Government's Response to the Royal Commission on Long Term Care [by Command] [Cm. 4818-I andII] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
(1) The Acquisition of German Parcel, (2) The Cancellation of the Benefits Payment Card Project, and (3) Supporting Innovation: managing risk in government departments [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 858, 857 and 864] [Clerk of the House].
(1) Advantage West Midlands: West Midlands Regional Development Agency, (2) East of England Development Agency, (3) East Midlands Development Agency, (4) Northwest Development Agency, (5) One North East: North East of England Regional Development Agency, (6) SEEDA: South East of England Regional Development Agency, (7) South West of England Regional Development Agency, and (8) Yorkshire Forward: Yorkshire and Humber Regional Development Agency for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; [Mr Secretary Prescott]. Page 564 Thursday 27th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top
(1) Fisheries Research Services for 19992000, (2) Historic Scotland for 19992000, with Corporate Plan for 20002001, and (3) the Student Awards Agency for Scotland for 19992000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 750, 712 and 737] [Mr Secretary Reid].
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(2) Memorandum laid before the Committee [Genetically Modified Organisms and Seed Segregation] [Mr David Curry].
Page 565 Thursday 27th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top [No. 142; WH, No. 87.] Thursday 27th July 2000. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 24th May 1999]. The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 24th October. [Adjourned at 5.44 p.m. [No. 143.] Friday 28th July 2000. The House met at half-past Nine o'clock. PRAYERS.
The Lords have agreed to the Finance Bill, without Amendment.
And it being half-past Two o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
Finance Act 2000 Sea Fishing Grants (Charges) Act 2000 Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Act 2000 Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000 Learning and Skills Act 2000 Local Government Act 2000 Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 Census (Amendment) Act 2000 Football (Disorder) Act 2000 Postal Services Act 2000 Utilities Act 2000 Church of England (Miscellaneous Provisions) Measure 2000.
(1) residents of the city of Chichester for aid to be directed to education for child labourers, and (2) Sea"n Woodward and others for changes in the valuation of land purchased for road schemes were presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till two minutes to Three o'clock, adjourned till Monday 23rd October, pursuant to Order [19th July]. [Adjourned at 2.58 p.m. Page 566 Friday 28th July 2000 1999-2000 Volume 256 Back to top APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
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