Select Committee on Agriculture Minutes of Evidence



APPENDIX 10

Supplementary memorandum submitted by Advanta Seeds UK (G 12)

  Advanta wishes to clarify certain answers which it gave to the Committee at its hearing of oral evidence held on Tuesday 18 July 2000.

  Question 4. On reflection, we believe that "universal recognition" extends beyond the seed industry and is recognised by the Minister for the Environment and English Nature.

  Question 6. In its written submission to the Committee, Advanta asserted that it believed a "lack of understanding of the basics of Agriculture existed in some quarters of the Ministry and most quarters of the media".

  In addition to the comments we made verbally about issues of crop sterility, the basis of these comments is:

  1.  The deadlines for achieving regulations do not seem to be well coordinated with the predetermined deadlines which are set by the growing season. For example, if seed is to be tested as it is harvested (to determine whether it is fit for processing), it is no good setting the standards for that testing after harvesting has taken place. For winter oilseed rape, harvesting was underway at the time the evidence was being taken (18 July). To state that regulations could be available by the end of August is simply too late for the Autumn 2000 planting season. Furthermore, the hope for something at a European level by December misses the entire Autumn crop in the UK.

  Advanta would willingly provide a calendar of key timings should the Committee wish it.

  2.  Even in the evidence given to the Committee on 18 July, the difference between a crop grown commercially for grain and a crop grown for hybrid seed continue to be misunderstood. This is particularly true in relation to the argument about isolation distance. MAFF has asked for feedback on the adequacy of separation distances for SCIMAC trials. However, the requirements for separation will be different depending on whether the crop is for hybrid seed production or for commercial grain. We see no evidence that this point is understood even now.

  3.  We believe that there needs to be a greater appreciation of how seed is imported and distributed, so that the spot checking referred to by DETR can be best aligned with the point of most risk. This will need to be extended beyond seed companies and their merchant customers to farm saved seed. We don't believe this area is sufficiently understood, but know the seed industry would be happy to assist in providing this information to MAFF/DETR.

  4.  We have detected a view that processes can be handled differently between the different devolved assemblies of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. We would like to make the point (that has been recognised by Government at a European level) that seed distribution does not discriminate between the component countries of the UK. To have regulations that do discriminate will be impossible to administer and manage.

  Question 8. Dr Buckeridge referred to Advanta's separation distance of 4km when producing seed of its spring oilseed rape varieties. In Advanta's protocols, the 4km relates to separation from the nearest known GM rapeseed commercial crop. A separation distance of 1,600m is used for conventional commercial rapeseed crops.

  Question 9. In 1998, tests using DNA methods were unproven (such as PCR testing) and documented as having reliability problems. Tests using "bioassays" were in development, but we are not aware that they had been routinely adopted by seed companies. In 2000, we checked seed with an independent laboratory, using this type of method. We don't think this service was available in 1998. Bioassay tests can be very time consuming if done accurately. In rapeseed, it can take up to 60 days to prepare seed and complete a test. These timescales are very hard to accommodate within the normal process of seed production, processing and planting.

  Advanta doubts that governments will choose bioassay testing when decisions about approved testing methods are reached. This is because they are incapable of distinguishing between "authorised" and "unauthorised" GM events—a distinction that is very relevant under Directive 90/220.

  Even in 2000, there is a lack of clarity on preferred testing methods (as demonstrated in the evidence given to this Committee).

  In 1998, Advanta received no indication from Government that seed testing was required. It had been advised (in a letter from DETR of February 1998) that DETR was unclear what arrangements had been made to segregate crops in North America. Advanta actions were focussed on ensuring segregation of crops by attention to separation distances. In other words, adopting distances that were five times the regulatory requirement in Canada. At that time, given the uncertainty surrounding testing, this was judged to be the best protection. The fact that the Government has indicated no risk to health or the environment shows that judgement was sound.

  Question 17. The view that destruction was an over-reaction was also expressed by English Nature.

  Question 21. Dr Buckeridge described the sterility system and the production of hybrid rapeseed for sowing. The isolation distances used by Advanta for this purpose have no relevance to the separation distances used in SCIMAC field scale trials which were designed to test the environmental impact of a commercial crop grown for grain.

  This was one important example of a basic agricultural fact that we felt that Government and media struggled to understand.

  Question 21. Dr Buckeridge refers to the actions taken with "contaminant plants". These were plants which survived exposure to the herbicides used in the bioassay tests, indicating that they carried the GM impurity.

  In a commercial crop grown from this seed, you have to look for the rare plant which is not producing any pollen. This will be the impurity. That is exactly what Advanta found in these "Hyola" seed batches. Less than one in a hundred of the plants appeared incapable of satisfactory pollen production. In other words, they were impurities with extremely compromised fertility.

  Question 27. Since the meeting of the Committee, Advanta has commenced testing seed of winter oilseed rape produced in the UK for sowing in August. Eight samples from harvest 1999 have been submitted to an independent laboratory for testing for the most common GM components (35S promoter, NOS terminator and FMV promoter). During this testing, we experienced several false positives triggered by natural infections of the rapeseed with Cauliflower Mosaic Virus. This problem with PCR testing is well documented, but highlights the frailty of the tests. It has, however, led to expensive and time-consuming re-testing before the seed lots could be declared clear.

  Question 34. Dr Buckeridge undertook to write to the Committee to expand on the points made by Advanta in paragraphs 4.2 and 4.3 of its submission. These are dealt with in comments on Questions 64 and 65.

  Question 34. Mr Ruthven explained that Advanta had accounted for 5,393 hectares and gave reasons why this exceeded the quantity of seed sold, which was for 4,718 hectares. Advanta is firmly of the view that the tracing of the seed, including the additional area sown provides very strong assurance that all crops grown from the affected seed are being traced. Arrangements for the payment of compensation include a specific verification with each individual farm that these crops have been destroyed. At the time of making this clarification, registrations have increased from 323 to 337 and the area sown from 5,393 to 5,422 hectares. So far as Advanta can tell, registrations are virtually complete.

  Question 34. Mr Ruthven compared the possibility of tracing 100 per cent crops to "the contamination itself". He intended this to convey that any shortfall in the tracing of the crops is likely to be minimal.

  Question 36. Mr Ruthven commented that he could not understand why the farmers should not sell the crop [within the EU]. In fact, the reason is the absence of an EU Part C marketing consent.

  Question 44. Dr Buckeridge explained that the environment for producing seed on the prairies was different in 1999 from that in 1998. This related to the expansion of GM rapeseed production, which rose from 15 per cent of the rapeseed crop in 1997, to 35 per cent in 1998 and 55 per cent in 2000. The total area of spring rape grown commercially on the prairies is in the region of 5.5 million hectares. The total area of major crops under arable cultivation at any one time is around 22.0 million hectares. Although GM spring rapeseed production increased from 15 per cent to 35 per cent in 1998, it still represented only 8.6 per cent of total cultivations. By 1999 sowings of GM rape had grown to 13.6 per cent of total cultivations. Advanta believed that even at these levels there was little risk. However after four years of cultivation of GM crops in the area it faced problems in locating fields not previously sown with GM crops and believed that the maintenance of a 4km separation distance would be extremely challenging. The fact that under normal crop rotations, rape seed crops cannot return to the same land for four years compounded these difficulties.

  Question 52. Dr Buckeridge offered to confirm the date that the order to destroy crops in France was given. According to Advanta records, this took place on 25 May.

  Question 60. Mr Ruthven indicated that he thought the industry would welcome product liability. Advanta's position on this point is that it is not in favour of product liability in substitution for proper regulatory guidance on: (a) thresholds for adventitious GM presence; (b) approved testing methods; and (c) the specified statistical analysis to be applied to the results of such tests. In circumstances where all parties before the Committee were agreed that 100 per cent purity (including in relation to adventitious GM presence) is not achievable, then any suggestion of product liability in this area in the place of clear and unambiguous regulatory guidance for which we have called, would seem to Advanta pernicious. In saying that Advanta would welcome product liability, what we meant was that we would welcome product liability for non-compliance with agreed threshold levels, measured by tests, conducted in accordance with approved testing methods, analysed by approved statistical analyses as set out in the new Regulations which Regulations must now be forthcoming as a matter of prime urgency.

  Questions 65 and 66. Dr Buckeridge undertook to provide the Committee with evidence of the assertions made in Advanta's submission at paragraphs 4.1 to 4.3. Advanta now offer the following evidence:

  Advanta believes that pressure groups have exaggerated the incident. We presume they would wish to do so in order to promote the view that GM crops should never reach the market. We have no issue with their right to promote this view, but believe their representation of the facts should be responsible and accurate.

  As a point of reference, Advanta is supportive of GM technology, if it is shown to deliver farmer and consumer benefits, and if it has passed the regulatory tests required. It has been involved in the technology in order to keep its North American product range competitive. It has not invented any GMs of its own and has no plans to do so. It is not selling any GMs in Europe.

  Advanta believes the aforementioned exaggerations have occurred in four areas:

    (1)  The crop concerned was consistently referred to as "GM". It was not. It was a non-GM crop with a GM impurity which constituted less than 1 per cent of all the seeds.

    (2)  The impression was given that GMs had been planted on a massive scale, and in an area far greater than the SCIMAC trials. The total crop area involved was less than 5,000 hectares (around 1 per cent of the entire UK rape crop). The impurity was less than 1 per cent of this 5,000 hectares, in other words, less than 50 hectares. The area for SCIMAC trials is between 350 and 400 hectares.

    (3)  In the evidence reported to the Select Committee, published in your report on segregation (28 February 2000), we regarded the assertion that PCR testing can be done to an accuracy of 0.001 per cent as mischievous. Our reasons for this are given in our original written submission.

    (4)  We believe the emotive language used by the pressure groups and the media makes reasoned discussion of the facts extremely difficult. Therefore, we think it is difficult for the general public to make up its mind objectively. Examples are that the event has been consistently referred to as contamination, worse, as "living pollution" and at the most extreme as "an environmental catastrophe".

  Question 87. In its submission to the Committee, Advanta stressed that there was a need and that the industry had been pressing for regulation. Advanta understands that no formal request for regulation or guidance on the issue of adventitious GM impurities in seed has been made to UK Government by the Industry, but the Chief Executive of the British Society of Plant Breeders has confirmed to Advanta that it has been discussed informally with officials and that the point was made on several occasions to MAFF and UKROFS that organic seed, if imported from USA, was likely to contain GM impurities. Formal approaches were made by the European Seed Association to the EU at a meeting on 11 October 1999.

  Question 126. Mr Drew's Question to Mr Meacher indicates clearly that there is a difference of opinion in what was said in the telephone conversation between a representative of Advanta and Dr Smith of DETR on 25 April 2000. A memorandum of the conversation was prepared by the Advanta representative and circulated to Advanta directors on 25 April. Advanta's understanding of the conversation is based on this record.

  The writer of the memorandum has re-read it in the light of the evidence of Dr Smith and confirmed that the note accurately records his recollection of their conversation.

  The memorandum records that DETR had received written legal advice that "Advanta nor its farmer customers had committed any offence until it became aware that its seed was contaminated. Thereafter, as we had halted sales, there were no grounds for a prosecution". Further legal opinion was to be sought on 26 April. The Advanta representative stressed the urgency of the situation in view of the huge potential cost and limited opportunity to mitigate because of the lateness of the season. DETR promised to telephone in the course of the next two days. No call was received.

  Advanta hopes that the points of clarification set out in this letter will be of assistance to the Committee in reaching the conclusions for its report.

24 July 2000


 
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