Select Committee on Defence Minutes of Evidence



MEMORANDUM SUBMITTED BY THE DEFENCE ENGINEERING GROUP, UNIVERSITY COLLEGE LONDON (18 MAY 2000)

DERA PPP (April 2000 proposal)

  1.  Since the Strategic Defence Review (SDR) announced in 1998 that DERA was to be the subject of a Public-Private-Partnership (PPP, the MoD has been trying to reconcile its primary aim of maintaining an adequate supply of expert unbiased advice to guide its future planning and procurement with the Treasury's wish to raise funds from the privatisation or partial privatisation of a public sector organisation. The delay in formulating a widely acceptable plan for DERA PPP suggests that the initial SDR decision was unsupported by much (if any) analysis of how a PPP might be effectively implemented and the same comment could well apply to the current proposal.

  2.  The initial MoD PPP proposal was widely criticised by many external organisations, notably industry and academia, and was subsequently withdrawn. One of its most serious flaws was that it had apparently not considered that the US government research laboratories (and those of other nations) would be unable to collaborate and exchange technical information with a private foreign company.

  3.  The April 2000 consultation document proposes the division of DERA into two parts. Some 3,000 staff would be retained in MoD to provide impartial advice, to undertake some high-level systems research and to manage the MoD research programme and international research collaboration. The remaining 9,000 staff would form "new DERA" which would become a private company to be floated on the Stock Market. We welcome the recognition that MoD does need to retain a capability for generating impartial technical advice and for high level systems work, but it is not clear how the number of staff required by MoD for these tasks was determined. Ideally, a list of specific tasks would have been drawn up with viable numbers set against each of them. Whether or not this was done, the proposed PPP arrangement would significantly reduce the scale of advice available, since 3,000 staff with management responsibilities could in no way deploy the same expertise as the 12,000 currently in DERA. As the retained staff would be engaged in less research, their expertise would soon become obsolete and they would have to seek an increasing amount of technical advice from "new DERA". Such advice would hardly be impartial as it would inevitably be influenced by the interests of the shareholders of "new DERA", as indeed is the advice from industry at present.

  4.  The new proposal suggests that international research collaboration with the US and other allied government laboratories would be managed by "retained DERA" and this would involve the control and protection of imported sensitive information. This arrangement would reduce the amount of such information available to "new DERA" researchers, who would no longer be able to have direct interchange with research colleagues overseas and would therefore see little value in assisting the collaborative activities. In other words, the collaborative mechanism which has traditionally generated many of the most fruitful research opportunities would no longer exist.

  5.  It is ironic that, after a decade of proclaiming the benefits of integrating all defence evaluation and research work and of rationalising the organisation and structure of the DERA establishments, it is now proposed that the whole structure should be divided again, especially since the penalties of doing so have not been elucidated. Until the two parts of DERA can be relocated to separate sites, and while they continue to share the same laboratories and facilities, it may be difficult to persuade the defence industry and the American authorities that the Chinese walls erected are sufficiently impervious and that proper military and commercial confidentiality can be preserved.

  6.  It is unclear how the division of staff between the two new organisations would be managed, as both will be seeking to retain high calibre staff on whose energy and morale their futures will depend. In any event, the continued secondment of military staff to a privatised DERA, which has always been perceived as valuable in formulating and conducting the research programme, would undoubtedly be seen as unfair to its commercial rivals.

  7.  The MoD appears confident that the proposed "new DERA" can evolve into a successful commercial company, but it is unclear whether the change in its status would benefit UK industry as a whole. The detailed terms and conditions under which "new DERA" would compete with the defence industry have not been clearly promulgated so it is difficult to see how the transition from the current situation will be managed or what the end point will be. "Retention of a special share" by MoD would seem to be in danger of distorting competitive activities and it is by no means clear what freedom DERA will have to use IPR generated and partially funded by industry on the co-operative Pathfinder programmes of recent years. Moreover, if "new DERA" loses work to industry in open competition, how can MoD be assured that the needed capabilities and facilities will continue to be available?

  8.  In summary, too little evidence has been presented on the above issues to give confidence that the full implications have been properly considered.


 
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