Select Committee on Defence Twelfth Special Report



ANNEX

INTRODUCTION

The Committee's report on the Defence Research has been considered carefully by the Government and responses to the main points in the report are set out in this memorandum.

The Government welcomes the Committee's recognition of the improvements made following initial consultation last year and its acknowledgement that efforts have been made to address the issues raised by UK industry and our collaborative partners. We are however concerned that the Committee has not yet recognised the reality of the changing environment which DERA faces and the need to take positive steps to ensure the continued survival and development of a major national asset. The opportunities for NewDERA to become a significant force for stimulating science and technology within the UK economy also appear to have been missed.

In putting forward our revised proposals, we have listened carefully to the views expressed by both the Committee and our other key stakeholders. This has been a genuine process of consultation and we have made changes to the proposal where it is sensible and appropriate to do so.

Whilst we note that the Committee has reproduced some concerns raised by certain stakeholders we are disappointed that this appears to have been done in a relatively selective manner. The overall response to the revised proposals released on 17 April 2000 has been positive. Although many detailed issues that will need to be addressed during implementation have been identified, the majority of stakeholders have indicated that they believe the proposal to be a workable approach capable of meeting our PPP objectives.

We are confident that the Core Competence proposal will meet the future science and technology needs of MoD. It will encourage the development of stronger links with the expanding global technology base and stimulate greater agility and innovation, all for the benefit of the wider UK economy. Overall, we believe that the opportunity to create partnerships between RDERA, NewDERA, the rest of the private-sector, academia and our international collaborative partners will lead to enhanced value for money for DERA's customers while allowing MoD to retain access to world class scientific and research capabilities .

We are grateful to all those, including the members of the HCDC, who have contributed to the consultation process. We believe that we have demonstrated a willingness to listen to the views of our stakeholders and to make changes where these are sensible and appropriate.

Following on from the results of consultation, the Secretary of State announced on [25 July] that the Department will proceed with the implementation of the Core Competence proposal. We remain committed to a continuing dialogue with interested groups as we move into the implementation phase.

A detailed response to the specific points of the report on Defence Research follows. The Committee also asked for a note on D/DPT's recent visit to the US, this is attached.

ADJUSTING TO A NEW RESEARCH ENVIRONMENT

Para 14

Ever since the MoD's original intention to explore a 'part privatisation' of DERA emerged in 1998, the MoD has sought to present a declining MoD budget for defence research as an immovable constraint making the search for external finance seem the only option available. As we commented in our Defence Research report, 'it is disingenuous for the MoD to suggest that funding constraints are driving the need for a public-private partnership, as though this is a factor beyond its control'.

It has never been the case that financial considerations have been the primary driver behind the DERA PPP. Although DERA has been a successful organisation it faces significant changes to the environment in which it must operate, not least of these is the increasing civil sector investment in high technology. We believe that DERA must respond to these changes if it is to continue to thrive, and if MoD is to continue to have access to leading-edge technology for defence applications. Of course, strategies must be set with funding constraints in mind. As we explained in the oral evidence to the Committee, meeting the demands for research and technology funding is a real problem, not just for the UK but also for many other countries who are faced with exponentially increasing requirements. But as we have also stressed throughout this process, our objectives for the PPP are not primarily financial. Amongst these objectives are the requirements to:

  • enhance the opportunity for the exploitation of technology locked up in DERA;
  • improve access to technologies from the civil sector for military application;
  • introduce private capital into DERA to meet its investment needs, and thereby accelerate its development through exposure to private sector disciplines; and
  • provide increased freedoms for DERA, in for example, employee terms; conditions; reward; and its ability to grow commercial business.

It is therefore important that we seek a solution which not only meets the non-financial PPP objectives, but also enables DERA to obtain private capital for investment and to facilitate and accelerate the exploitation of technologies in the wider economy.

Para 16

When we considered the 'Reliance' model last year, we noted that DERA staff could be properly rewarded and motivated without DERA being privatised. We have no reason to change that assessment in the light of the more modest proposals for partial privatisation now being put forward. The terms and conditions of Retained-DERA's staff must be protected. However, an additional problem with the new proposals is that there would initially also be 'a high degree of collocation, with staff from both New-DERA and Retained-DERA being present on most sites', and there is, it seems to us, an inevitable and demoralising problem when one organisation's (perhaps more-secure) staff will have to rub shoulders daily with those of the other body who could rapidly become better rewarded and resourced. [As we discuss later in this report, with DERA, more than with most organisations facing privatisation, it is difficult to assess the likely value of the company when it is a fully listed plc. Indeed the multi-stage method proposed for the privatisation implicitly reflects this]. We believe that the financial structure of New-DERA should be arranged so that its executives do not benefit disproportionately from any appreciation in the value of New-DERA shares arising from property sales or other windfall profits.

The actual situation is more complex than implied by the Committee's comments. In certain areas of technology, which are also highly attractive to the civil sector, DERA is currently experiencing significant difficulties in recruiting and retaining staff. This in itself is a risk to the MoD as potentially it could reduce the access for defence applications to expertise in these areas. In order to respond to this problem NewDERA needs to offer reward packages that can compete with other private-sector companies. The degree of freedom and flexibility necessary to do this would not be appropriate for an organisation within the public sector.

Although RDERA must be capable of attracting scientific staff of the highest calibre, it will be a smaller organisation tightly focused on delivering science and technology in areas that could not easily be transferred to the private-sector. Therefore we believe that the staffing problems will be less acute. For some people, the opportunity to carry out challenging work within a public-sector body for some or all of their careers will be extremely attractive. This will ensure that RDERA can attract sufficient staff to be a highly successful organisation making a key contribution to meeting the country's defence needs.

We agree that the terms and conditions of staff transferring to both RDERA and NewDERA must be fully protected. This will be achieved through the application of the Transfer of Undertaking for the Protection of Employment, TUPE. RDERA staff will remain part of the Principal Civil Service Pension Scheme. For NewDERA a new pension scheme will be established and this will have to be certified by government actuaries as delivering benefits which are broadly comparable to the existing scheme.

We fully recognise that both organisations must offer career opportunities and reward packages that are attractive to the pool of people from which they need to recruit. NewDERA will enjoy private-sector freedoms to motivate and provide incentives to its staff. Within MoD we are currently reviewing the broader career management arrangements for scientific and engineering staff across the department. This includes examining incentive mechanisms, opportunities for secondments to industry or overseas governments, as well as revisions to the existing Fast Stream promotion arrangements.

It is not necessarily true that, as asserted in the report, staff in NewDERA would be better resourced than those in the retained organisation. RDERA performs a critical role for MoD Customers who will wish to ensure that RDERA has sufficient resources to perform the tasks required of them.

Ensuring that the taxpayer receives full value both during and after the transaction has always been a primary consideration within the PPP. As acknowledged by the Committee, the proposal envisages a mechanism to ensure that the Government retains a financial stake in NewDERA to ensure that the taxpayer gains from any growth in NewDERA in the period following its transfer to the private sector. Retention of such a stake would not be a long term position.

We are working with specialist city and financial advisers to ensure that NewDERA's business and assets, including property, are properly valued at the point of transaction, and that this value will be reflected in the sale price. Consequently we will be seeking to ensure that growth is a result of genuine improvements in the company's business and not the result of an artificially low initial valuation. It is our intention that at the implementation point remuneration packages should be strongly linked to performance and that there should be full transparency in the introduction of reward mechanisms.

Para 17

In similar vein, it would appear that New-DERA's ability to attract private-sector capital under the Core Competence model would be similar to that of the privatised elements of DERA under the Reliance approach. Again, when we evaluated the Reliance approach last year we considered that attention might better be directed at adjusting Treasury rules to give DERA greater financial freedom, before turning to a public-private partnership. The new public-private partnership proposals repeat the MoD's requirement for sufficient private sector involvement in DERA for it to raise capital to exploit its intellectual property, and to introduce more flexible rewards for its staff. As the Core Competence proposals do not change those underlying assumptions, we remain unconvinced about the justification for a public-private partnership.

It is accepted that the ability to attract private sector capital under the Core Competence model would be similar to that of the privatised elements under the Reliance approach, and this would be the case under any model which involved elements of DERA moving into the private sector. However, as the Committee are aware, the revision of our original proposals was not due to its inability to attract private capital, but was the result of a range of other concerns expressed by our major stakeholders. These focused on the need to retain within the public sector functions including:

  • the integration of different elements of knowledge and research to provide high level advice to MoD to aid its decision making process;
  • work of a particularly sensitive nature; and
  • sensitive work related to Government-to-Government international programmes.

The comments on adjustments to the Treasury rules are noted but this is not considered to be an viable route for securing DERA's future in the long term, or for meeting the needs of its major customers. Indeed, regardless of Treasury rules, it is the case that the freedoms necessary to allow the successful exploitation of the knowledge and expertise locked up within DERA, and to develop the links necessary to transfer civil technology into defence applications are simply not appropriate for an organisation within the public sector. In addition it is apparent that UK industry would have considerable and legitimate concerns over the creation of an organisation with an increasingly commercial agenda residing within the public sector.

IMPLICATIONS FOR INDUSTRY

Para 23

New-DERA's potential involvement in 'defence manufacturing' needs to be clarified by the MoD if it is to go ahead with a public-private partnership. However, we regard this problem principally as yet another example of the unnecessary entanglements that this ill-conceived proposal brings in its train.

We accept that clarification is required to define the parameters of defence manufacturing and as we stated in our written evidence to the Committee the detail will be developed following consultation. However, we envisage the broad principles will include the following:

    (a)  NewDERA would not, without the express permission of MoD, be permitted to undertake the manufacture or supply of equipment, products or systems whose principal use is intended to be for a military, defence or security application, other than small numbers of prototypes or demonstrators.

    (b)  Unless there was a clear conflict of interest, NewDERA would be permitted to act as a Systems Integration contractor and to work in partnership with, or as a sub-contractor to industry. This is seen as an important mechanism for ensuring that the results of work within NewDERA can influence the design of new defence systems

It is not proposed to prohibit NewDERA from undertaking any activities performed by the current DERA. The prohibition is intended to be consistent with the present restrictions on the development and manufacture of equipments for sale by DERA, which are set out in the Framework Document that governs the activities of the trading fund. It is recognised that for this prohibition to be effective it must be defined in an unambiguous way and, similarly, the processes and procedures used to administer this provision must be clear and not intrusive.

We do not accept the prohibition of defence manufacturing to be an "unnecessary entanglement" but rather an important mechanism which will ensure that a conflict of interest does not arise in NewDERA's ability to advise and support MoD in the delivery of military capability. Indeed, this reflects current practice whereby DERA are prevented from engaging in defence manufacturing through their framework agreement.

Para 25

This inconsistency highlights the essential contradiction in the MoD's approach to the public-private partnership. It apparently seeks to launch a private sector commercially-motivated organisation to exploit its capabilities aggressively, but at the same time the Department also seeks to maintain the cosy and trusted relationship it currently has with DERA. The MoD appears to be trying to have it both ways, particularly in the eyes of DERA's other stakeholders.

We do not accept that there is a contradiction in the MoD's approach or that the Department is seeking a "cosy and trusted relationship" with NewDERA. It is fully recognised throughout MoD that NewDERA will be a critical supplier to the Department. It will contain many capabilities and facilities of great importance to its MoD customers, and it is likely to continue to be the MoD's largest source of scientific and technical advice into the foreseeable future. However, this does not imply that the relationship between MoD and NewDERA will, in principle, need to be different from that which exists with other private-sector organisations. Indeed, as identified in the consultation document, it is important that there should be a clear separation between the two organisations. Stakeholders, particularly industry and our collaborative partners, have indicated strongly that they want to be clear whether the people with whom they deal are in the private sector or the public sector. It is also clear that there would be a fundamental contradiction between allowing NewDERA the commercial freedoms necessary to operate successfully in the private sector whilst at the same time allowing it to have a privileged relationship with MoD and we have carefully avoided this in constructing our proposal.

THE DEFENCE DIVERSIFICATION AGENCY

Paras 29 & 30

It is clear that the Defence Diversification Agency's future is still far from decided. We have warned before of the poor record of support for defence diversification initiatives and their lack of impact and effectiveness. Nothing in the latest consultation proposals serves to reassure us that this is not the fate that awaits the DDA if the public-private partnership goes ahead.

. . . it cannot fit comfortably within either of the new DERA organisations that would be set up under the public-private partnership. [As the trade unions said, 'New-DERA would have no interest in opening up its laboratories or providing information to its commercial competitors, and Retained-DERA would have no ability to do so']. While the Defence Diversification Agency has a place in the current structure, which needs to be developed and encouraged, under a public-private partnership for DERA its role would be over-shadowed and largely out of place. With a New-DERA aggressively exploiting and diversifying its knowledge, the Defence Diversification Agency could be marginalised.

We note the Committee's comments on the Defence Diversification Agency (DDA) but with an impressive start by the DDA since their inception last year, our experience to date has been a positive one. Seven offices have been opened across the UK and a further seven are expected to open before the end of this year. Over 300 company enquiries have been handled, the majority of which have resulted from the successful partnerships the Agency has already developed with Business Links and other enterprise groups.

The Government remains fully committed to the aims of the DDA. In the light of the DERA PPP proposal, we need to consider carefully the organisational structure which will enable the DDA to function to best effect. Once this work has been completed we will make an announcement, followed by a period of consultation. The chosen solution will be the one that best safeguards the ability of the Agency to achieve its aims. Integral to this, we envisage establishing a Defence Diversification Council with membership drawn from a wide range of stakeholders.

THE MoD'S INTELLIGENT CUSTOMER CAPABILITY

Para 35

The Core Competence model now being put forward envisages a much larger component of DERA being retained within the Department than under the Reliance model, and this does appear to reduce the risks of losing an impartial, scientifically capable, intelligent customer capability.

It is encouraging that the Committee recognise the improvements we have made to our original proposal in order to address the concerns of raised by stakeholders. However, this section of the report does go on to highlight the continuing concern that some stakeholders have over the ability of RDERA to maintain sufficient capabilities and it is important that we address this. We can assure the Committee that our analysis provides confidence that the proposal would result in the establishment of RDERA as a vibrant and sustainable organisation, providing high quality scientific and technical output to its customers. It would be a significant force in the field of defence science and technology, undertaking systems level research and key Government work unsuited to the private sector, while maintaining an ability to provide a high level overview across the whole spectrum of science and technology currently addressed by DERA. This would ensure that MoD has an impartial source of advice and systems research capability to provide high level assessment, integration and management of its research programme and international research collaboration. As we stated earlier, we believe that, contrary to the IPMS's concern, the range of functions which RDERA would undertake would assist in the retention of experts by providing rewarding opportunities for employees to develop and enhance their skills in defence science.

Para 36

While the rebalancing of the dividing line between New-DERA and Retained-DERA appears to make each more logically structured, the net result is a deliberate diminution of the intended capabilities of Retained-DERA, in order to bolster the flotation prospects for New-DERA. This we find a poor omen of the importance the MoD is likely to attach to protecting fully the MoD's 'intelligence customer' safeguards.

Throughout the PPP process ensuring that customer needs are fully met has always been an overriding objective. These needs have been set out by the Customer Focus Group, a senior level body which represents DERA's main MoD and other government customers. The current Core Competence approach has been fully endorsed by this group as being capable of meeting their requirements. Therefore, we do not accept the assertion that the planning of capabilities to be retained by government is a deliberate diminution of the RDERA organisation in order to bolster NewDERA's flotation prospects. The Committee itself acknowledges that "the rebalancing of the dividing line between NewDERA and RDERA appears to be more logically structured" and this has been a direct consequence of the detailed work we have done to establish two viable and sustainable organisations. We can assure the Committee that the separation of NewDERA and RDERA has been planned so that there would be an equitable division of key staff between the two organisations whilst ensuring that each has the necessary capabilities and expertise to carry out its defined role. We are confident that the way in which we have planned the division of capabilities will fully protect access to the capabilities needed by MoD to carry out its 'intelligent customer' role.

Para 37

If the Centre for Defence Analysis is to be so diluted, it is clearly important that at least those parts that provide urgent support to commanders during operations—the so-called 'front-line CDA'—fall on the public sector side of the fence.

We do not accept that implementation of Core Competence will lead to an overall dilution of the analysis capability available to meet the MoD's requirements. As we stated in our earlier written supplementary answers to the Committee, we recognise that the functions undertaken by the CDA are fundamental to the business of the MoD as a whole, by sustaining impartiality and supporting major expenditure decisions and the coherent development of future defence policy. However, our analysis showed that it is possible to maintain this capability whilst at the same time allowing NewDERA to retain a number of CDA's current staff. This would allow it to continue to operate under its current business model and would add value to the other capabilities offered to customers. As indicated previously CDA has capabilities in several technical areas, each of which typically comprises a number of staff and analytical models. Although we will retain the full range of capabilities in MoD it may not be necessary that the current level of staffing is required to meet only those requirements that must be carried out within Government. Pilot studies have given us confidence that it is possible to create an adequate level of capability within RDERA to meet MoD's impartiality requirements in a particular area without keeping 100% of the current staff. NewDERA would remain accessible as a potential supplier to MoD and the overall level of capability available for MoD to draw on would not be reduced and may even be enhanced.

It is also incorrect to suggest that the proposals would dilute the capabilities of DERA technical libraries and databases that lie outside of the Defence Research Information Centre (DRIC), and that this would lead to risks affecting the future safe custody of sensitive information.

Firstly, the site-based information centres that lie outside of DRIC, whether they are in NewDERA or in RDERA would continue to provide local library and information services to their host sites in the way they do today. DRIC would continue to function as the MoD repository of defence-funded scientific and technical reports and to provide those reports to authorised users in MoD, DERA and the defence industry as necessary. The retention of DRIC would, therefore, in no way dilute the capabilities of information centres, which would continue to have access to the same sources of information for approved purposes.

Secondly, the handling of sensitive information and its passage to the private sector would continue under the same strict controls that have been in place for some time. In this way, there would be no increase in risk to the information provided by defence industry or our collaborative partners as a result of DERA PPP. Information centres within RDERA would have full Government access to this information. Centres in NewDERA would continue to have access to such information on a 'need-to-know' basis, having exactly the same access as any company to which MoD has attributed an appropriate level of security clearance. Indeed, NewDERA would still hold and protect classified material in exactly the same way as any such company.

THE IMPLICATIONS FOR COLLABORATIVE RESEARCH

Para 43

US approval of the public-private partnership, which in our earlier report we called for as a precondition for proceeding with it, is far from certain.

In the preceding section to this statement the Committee rightly highlights the importance of international collaborative research to the UK. The overall response to the proposal from the US, and other international partners, has been generally positive and our partners have repeatedly stated their desire to ensure that collaboration continues. Ministers and senior MoD officials have had a number of discussions with counterparts in the US DOD and intelligence communities. During consultation an MoD team visited a wide range of US laboratories to brief scientists and managers on the proposals and to discuss any issues that they wanted to raise. Together all of these exchanges have given a high degree of confidence that existing collaborative agreements will be unaffected, and that we can continue to develop new areas of co-operation after the implementation of the PPP. Indeed, it would be surprising if this were not the case as ensuring the continuation of these links was a significant factor behind the changes we have made in response to the previous consultation process.

Rudy de Leon, Deputy Secretary for Defence, welcomed the announcement made on the future of the Defence Evaluation and Research Agency, saying—

    "We did have some concerns about the previous proposals, but I welcome the new proposal, which I believe to be constructive and workable. Inevitably there are a number of detailed issues to be resolved during implementation, but I am confident these can be addressed satisfactorily. I look forward to working closely with the UK to maintain our strong collaborative research links."

Although the Committee has primarily focused on collaboration with the US, the MoD has important collaborative relationships with a wide range of other nations, and is involved in a number of major international scientific fora. There have been extensive discussions and correspondence with many collaborative partners including those within both The Technical Co-operation Programme (TTCP) and the NATO Research and Technology Organisation. The MoD will obviously continue to meet fully its obligations under international agreements. In general, our partners are content with the principle behind the Core Competence proposal, although they obviously wish to be satisfied that government-only information is properly protected. We have therefore provided assurances to our partners that any information provided by them to the UK would not be passed outside government without their specific agreement. We will obviously continue detailed discussions with our partners throughout implementation and beyond.

Para 45

We have doubts about the practicality of being able clearly to identify personnel who would need to be kept in Retained-DERA in order to facilitate international collaborations. Effective collaboration depends on the scientists involved in the research having relationships of trust with their opposite numbers, and that trust will be much more difficult to maintain if the scientists in question are in the private sector.

We are in the process of identifying the key points of contact for international collaborative work who would remain in RDERA. Most of these individuals have been deeply involved in such programmes for many years and have established strong personal links with their international colleagues. As one of the first activities during implementation these individuals would visit the US and other collaborative partners to ensure the effective continuity of collaborative programmes. Representatives from RDERA will represent the UK on international groups such as The Technical Co-operation Programme.

THE 'COMPLIANCE FRAMEWORK'

Para 49

We would welcome a requirement for transparency in the application of the proposed compliance regime for New-DERA, which the MoD should build into the Articles of the new company. But the compliance committee, as proposed, will in no way be analogous to the external regulators seen in other privatised sectors, and it will have no sanctions. If it proceeds with its public-private partnership proposals, the MoD is likely to need other means to assure itself about New-DERA's compliance with its operating constraints, as will industry and the MoD's overseas research partners. If those groups have doubts about the rigour and integrity of the proposed compliance regime in practice, New-DERA will not be trusted and the putative benefits arising from its freedom to operate in the commercial marketplace, such as they might be, will be lost. By the same token, if the compliance regime is too onerous, the benefits will again be diluted or lost. This is another example of where it seems to us the risks of getting the new regime wrong almost certainly outweigh the supposed benefits to be gained from the change of ownership structure.

We agree that there is a balance to be drawn in ensuring firstly that the compliance regime provides MoD with sufficient protection of its key interests and secondly that NewDERA is not overly constrained in its commercial activities. We have recognised this in the development of our proposals and a major advantage of the Core Competence approach is that it protects many of the most sensitive areas of technology by retaining them within government. Consequently the burden imposed by the constraints package on NewDERA can be minimised and its effect on the company's competitiveness should not be significant.

It would of course be premature to try and fully define the nature of the constraints package, as these will develop as a result of detailed work during implementation. However, as we have stated throughout this process it will be important to preserve the independence and impartiality of NewDERA and ensure that is not subject to undue influence. With regard to the Compliance Committee, this is not intended to carry out the role performed by external regulators in other privatisations, and is indeed much more analogous to the audit committee which, in common with other companies, NewDERA will have in place. However, the Compliance Committee should be viewed as one element of the overall package of measures to protect MoD's interests, as we have described in the consultation document.

The Committee rightly highlights the fact that other stakeholders, including industry and international partners, will wish to be assured of NewDERA's integrity. We are confident that the constraints of the compliance regime, together with the normal contractual mechanisms which are applicable to any private sector supplier to the MoD, will provide stakeholders with this assurance. The contractual conditions would include confidentiality clauses, adherence to the Official Secrets Act and other security provisions, and processes for organisational, physical and information separation and compartmentalisation. The use of third party intellectual property would also be protected through contractual mechanisms.

VALUE FOR MONEY AND THE FLOTATION OF NEWDERA

Para 53

Duplication of knowledge and expertise between New-DERA and Retained-DERA may be desirable in an ideal world, but it comes at a cost which the MoD will ultimately have to pay.

It is not the intention that there should be substantial duplication between RDERA and NewDERA. The proposal is based on the principle of retaining within government those functions which our stakeholders indicated during previous consultation would be unsuitable for transfer to the private sector. In some areas, such as CBD, there would be no duplication of capability between the organisations. In other areas, such as analysis, both RDERA and NewDERA will have some technical capability, however the functions they perform will be different. The basis of Core Competence is that MoD via RDERA will remain expert in the systems area and certain other specialist topics. These experts will draw world best technology predominately from NewDERA or where ever the best technology exists.

The report states that RDERA's role would be that of bringing together the strands of knowledge generated by other contracted bodies' primary research. Clearly this is an important role and indeed one that NewDERA would be likely to replicate for its own business management, but it would not be the retained organisation's only function. RDERA would undertake its own primary research where security or sensitivity demands. RDERA's primary role is to carry out work which can not easily be conducted outside government. Therefore the scope for competition with NewDERA or other outside suppliers should be minimal. This is true across the range of MoD customer requirements, including those of the Integrated Project Teams within the Defence Procurement Agency.

Para 54

Systems integration work is likely to be the area with the highest added-value, and without it New-DERA may be regarded by potential investors as a less attractive organisation with lower potential. This is another example of the dilemma—whether to beef up Retained-DERA to meet stakeholders' concerns, or to beef up New-DERA to boost its value—which can never be resolved satisfactorily, and exemplifies clearly the risk of proceeding with this public-private partnership.

As stated before, it has been an overriding objective for the PPP to ensure that the requirements of MoD customers will be fully met. Customers have been directly involved in pilot studies to evaluate our ability to create two organisations capable of fulfilling their required roles. This has not highlighted significant potential problems in relations to establishing the necessary level of systems integration capability within either NewDERA or RDERA. It is not our intention to prevent NewDERA from carrying out some systems integration work. As stated in response to para 23, unless there was a clear conflict of interest NewDERA would be permitted to act as a systems integration contractor and to work in partnership with, or as a contractor to industry.

Paras 55 & 56

With its budget already having been based on the assumption of the appropriation of £250 million from the flotation, and nothing more, the longer term value of the DERA deal for the MoD depends on the extent to which New-DERA's prices for its research outputs will fall, including the extent to which any efficiency improvements it achieves are shared with the MoD. Indeed, unless New-DERA can make additional efficiency improvements and generate third-party income to more than offset the new company's higher cost of servicing its capital, and can be forced to pass on the benefits to the MoD through competition, the MoD's funds spent with the firm will buy less research. If such benefits do not materialise, dealing with a private-sector DERA may put additional pressure on the MoD to raise its research budgets just to stand still.

The assumption of falling costs arising from the disciplines of private enterprise and competition are therefore the only really substantial rationale for DERA's restructuring, and it is an assumption yet to be tested. Furthermore, such benefits will have to cover the substantial part of the flotation proceeds going to the Treasury if the sale is not to be an effective cut in the MoD's budget. This is because New-DERA will have to charge the MoD more for its research in order to cover the cost of the capital raised for New-DERA's acquisition. It could be argued that that in itself might not financially disadvantage the MoD if it were to receive the full sale proceeds, which could then be used to offset the higher research costs. The Treasury's take represents a cut from that otherwise neutral position.

It is of course premature, and not in the taxpayer's interest, to speculate on the sale price or level of proceeds which would arise from the flotation of NewDERA. The estimate of a £250 million credit to the defence budget as a result of the PPP is simply a planning assumption. The Committee should be aware that, in addition, we are exploring the potential to re-invest a proportion of the receipt in research and technology thereby providing benefits to both customers and suppliers.

NewDERA will remain as one of the larger science and technology organisations within Western Europe. It will continue to benefit from significant economies of scale, which should be enhanced by its increased ability to win additional commercial business. We are confident that in adopting market disciplines and introducing more competitive practices, there will be increases in productivity, efficiency and responsiveness enabling NewDERA to continue to build on the efficiencies and cost-savings achieved by the current organisation. In addition, the research competition initiative which is being introduced by MoD research customers, independently of the PPP, will maintain pressure to keep prices down. We therefore do not believe that MoD will have to pay more for its research.

Paras 58 & 59

This whole arrangement seems to us to set up an entirely unhealthy set of conflicts between the Exchequer and the MoD.

With the Treasury set to gain most from the timing of DERA's flotation, we can also expect that the Treasury's priorities will be influential on the timing of the sale.

We do not accept the assertion that there would be conflict between the Exchequer and MoD over the timing and method of sale. We have highlighted within the consultation document that we retain the option to seek a strategic financial investor as an interim step if this should prove to be desirable. Although it is obviously in the interests of DERA's staff and customers that we should complete the proposed changes as quickly as possible, there is absolute agreement amongst all parties that any transaction should be timed to ensure maximum value for the taxpayer.

Conclusions

Para 60

. . . the potential benefits of a partial privatisation remain to be convincingly demonstrated by the MoD. In our judgement the current risks of proceeding with the public-private partnership—even in its new and improved format—continue to outweigh the still hypothetical benefits. The MoD needs to do more to persuade their Treasury colleagues that the likely receipts from DERA's flotation will be only a negligible fraction of the MoD's equipment procurement budget over the lifecycle of major programmes, and that such a receipt does not compare well against the risks inherent in the public-private partnership for the UK's continued ability to acquire militarily effective equipment for our armed forces.

We are concerned that the committee has not yet recognised the reality of the changing environment which DERA faces and the need to take positive steps to ensure the continued survival and development of a major national asset. The opportunities for NewDERA to become a significant force for stimulating science and technology within the UK economy also appear to have been missed.

In putting forward our revised proposals, we have listened carefully to the views expressed by both the Committee and our other key stakeholders. This has been a genuine process of consultation and we have made changes to the proposal where it is sensible and appropriate to do so. We are confident that the Core Competence model will result in two sustainable structures which will deliver value for money and a range of real, not hypothetical, benefits including:

  • introduction of commercial disciplines into NewDERA resulting in reduced contract prices for MoD and other customers as a result of increased competition, economies and productivity;
  • providing NewDERA with sufficient flexibility to develop commercial business partnerships and engage in a greater range of joint ventures thereby positioning itself to anticipate, rather than merely react to, customer needs;
  • access to private capital through either equity or debt in order to build capability and support future investment in technology;
  • strengthening the links between civil and defence technology so that MoD and the wider economy benefits from broader application of technological advances;
  • effective and productive relationships between private and public sector reflecting MoD's aims under the Smart Procurement Initiative;
  • the ability to address skill shortages in critical technologies;
  • a structure that provides international partners and other stakeholders with confidence that collaborative relationships will be maintained and protected.

Para 61

The balance struck between these two new organisations will tell us ultimately whether the current initiative is a public-private partnership, or simply a privatisation misleadingly labelled.

Our proposal for the future of DERA will be capable of meeting MoD's future science and technology needs and will ensure that our armed forces retain access to leading edge technology. The approach that we are following will stimulate the creation of partnership between RDERA, the private-sector, academia and international partners. NewDERA will be free to form its own partnerships and stimulate the wider exploitation of defence technology whilst at the same time encouraging the application of ideas from the civil sector to defence systems. Such partnerships go beyond the area of research, and are a fundamental tenet of the Smart Procurement initiative, whereby the development of stronger relationships with industry is seen as beneficial both to the MoD's procurement processes and in ensuring long term value for the taxpayer.

Para 62

In the meantime, damage has been done to the Department's relations with industry, DERA's personnel and the US Department of Defense.

We recognise that this process has caused some uncertainty, particularly with DERA personnel. But it has been important that we find the right solution for both DERA and MoD and this has necessitated long and detailed consideration of some very complex issues. The Committee can be assured that consultation has been genuine and we have been determined to thoroughly examine and address all concerns raised by stakeholders. Despite the uncertainty we do not accept that relations have been damaged. We have agreed with stakeholders that there have been issues to address and we have worked together to ensure resolution, and of course will continue to do so throughout implementation. In order to demonstrate to the Committee that our efforts to resolve issues have been genuine, detailed below is a summary of consultation with the specific groups highlighted by the Committee:

    (a)  Industry. Consultation has taken the form of informal workshops, meetings, briefings and seminars. Contact has generally been focused through the trade associations or other relevant professional bodies such as the Defence Industries Council (DIC), Defence Manufacturers Association (DMA) and the Association of Independent Research and Technology Organisations (AIRTO). The Principal Finance Officer hosted an industry seminar on 16 June where the proposal was explained in detail and industry were given the opportunity to air views and discuss areas of specific concern. The general industry message is one of support for our latest proposals and an agreement that they are workable and will inject a welcome degree of private-sector discipline into NewDERA.

    (b)  DERA Personnel The Chief Executive outlined the detail of our new proposals on 17 April in a satellite link to major DERA sites. This was accompanied with cascade briefings and upward feedback. The CE/DERA and the DERA Executive Committee (DEC) have also been undertaking a listening exercise, with visits to all DERA sites. A DERA PPP website was established, enabling staff to register and discuss views via an electronic chat room and to submit anonymous feedback. A DERA PPP Helpdesk was also established to identify and respond to the concerns of DERA staff. The opportunities for staff to express their views has therefore been comprehensive. Staff have also expressed views through the Trade Unions and their MPs. Clearly staff are concerned for their future employment and terms and conditions. We have assured them that we are confident that our PPP proposals will bring benefits for job security and that terms and conditions will be protected through the application of the Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) regulations (TUPE).

    (c)  US. Officials have visited the US to outline in detail the Core Competence proposal and, as indicated in our response to para 43, the US reaction has been generally positive. At research establishments there was a warmly expressed desire to continue collaboration, and a belief that under the Core Competence model this would be possible. It is our intention that, during implementation, nominated RDERA points of contact will visit the US and other international partners to ensure the effective continuity of international collaboration. These plans have been welcomed by our international partners as a sign of genuine and productive consultation.

Para 63

By the time the division and partial privatisation of DERA are effected—if the plans proceed—the MoD must not be surprised if critical relationships of trust have not been irreparably damaged.

Again, we believe the Committee is overstating the position. We believe that our willingness to engage in genuine consultation with our stakeholders and the fact that we have made changes in response to the views that they have expressed has had a positive affect on many of our important relationships. We are therefore confident that the Core Competence model has the general support of our main stakeholder groups. There are of course issues to be worked through during the implementation process, but we do not see these as insurmountable in the establishment of NewDERA and RDERA as two sound and sustainable structures. To ensure the continuation of effective working relationships we have made it clear to all stakeholder groups that consultation will continue throughout implementation. Indeed, it is the intention of Minister (Defence Procurement) to meet with key stakeholders early in the implementation process, and this includes the Trade Unions and Industry representatives.

Ministry of Defence

28 July 2000


 
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