Select Committee on Education and Employment Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 140 - 143)

MONDAY 10 APRIL 2000

PROFESSOR RODERICK FLOUD, PROFESSOR JOAN STRINGER, MR DAVID CALDWELL AND MR TONY BRUCE

  140. Is it not interesting that however much we try we keep coming back to the paradigm that the student today is the 18 year old going off to university when we know that is now a minority. Most of them are in further education, doing HE, part-time, mature and all of the rest. That is one of the interesting things coming out of our session.
  (Professor Floud) I was asked about the gap year.

  141. I was not blaming anyone.
  (Professor Floud) My whole career has been dealing with mature and part-time students.

Dr Harris

  142. I was relieved by your penultimate answer when you did not rule out the public purse as being an opportunity. I am also concerned you misquoted me, while I accept that £558 million is a lot of money—two thirds of a Millennium Dome—I did point out that it was 0.2 per cent of the income-tax cut that the Chancellor found he could give away. What I want to ask you is, recognising that student finance is a separate issue from the other issues of university funding in terms of teaching and research resources, do you believe that that sort of additional income from student finance, which we are looking at now, is affordable from the public purse for the reasons you gave in your previous answer?
  (Professor Floud) I do not think that it is for the universities to judge whether it is affordable from the public pursue, that is a decision for the Government and for the Chancellor of the Exchequer who has to balance a huge range of priorities. What we are saying is we do believe that there is a need for additional funding from some source to provide for the core activities of higher education institutions.

Chairman

  143. Professor Floud, it is interesting that after many years of a Treasury that has set its face against any notion of hypothecation, that we have seen over the last four years a move towards hypothecation and certainly the Treasury relenting on hypothecation. It may be something that your inquiry would dwell on, whether it is a graduate tax or some other kind of hypothecation for higher education. Can I thank you for coming and finish on one last question. Do you think we can get to the 50 per cent that the Government, and particularly the Prime Minister has said he is interested in in terms of students benefitting from higher education with the present system undisturbed?
  (Professor Floud) I think it will put a strain on the current system. I believe it is entirely justifiable because I believe that at least 50 per cent of the population would benefit from higher education and that the country would then benefit from them benefitting from higher education. It is an aspiration which we must find the means to pay for.

  Chairman: Thank you for your attendance. Thank you for your excellent answers to our questions. I suspect we will be seeing you again shortly, thank you.





 
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