Select Committee on Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum by Ian Bonas, Chairman, North East REPAC (EA 83)

  During the meeting on Tuesday 14 December at which Pamela Castle and I were giving evidence to the Sub-committee I agreed to send a copy of the NE REPAC's "trial run" report for the year to April 1999 which includes a section on the performance of the Agency. This I now enclose. I would like to mention that it was written by me personally with advice from, and on behalf of the NE REPAC, not by the Agency staff. Please also find enclosed the similar report by the Southern REPAC which you requested on the telephone.

  There are also one or two points which we did not quite have time to cover on Tuesday and which I would like to make to the committee as follows:—

1.  RESOURCES

  Our (REPAC's) concern at the shortage of resources available within the Environment Agency for Environmental Protection is growing. The 70 or so "Ringfences" referred to in the Agency's own submission at 4.1 are certainly part of the problem and we would support the Agency's proposal for rationalisation.

  However the Agency needs to demonstrate that the money it already has is well spent. In our view its prospects of finding a sympathetic ear for more resources for Environmental Protection are seriously hampered by lack of transparency eg in its charging. The current Process Industry Regulation day rate for an Inspector visit is £1,215. Of this sum approximately £165 is understood to go to the Inspector himself and the rest is overhead. This is quite out of line with experience of what is charged for a similar standard of work by other organisations eg HSE, but perhaps more important no adequate explanation is given. This given the Agency a bad name and makes it appear inefficient whether it is or not.

  Next there is a danger that the Agency, finding itself in a tight funding position, may be tempted to restrict spending on its proactive or "facilitating" role as resource is concentrated on what it perceives as its core regulatory function. This could adversely affect Waste minimisation, conservation, partnership project work (NE partnership project budget last year was £250,000, this year £100,000 losing "partner" contributions of nine times the difference), education, sustainable development and environmental awareness and recreation. Taken together the effect of shifting resource from these areas could be serious. They are all known to be of concern to the AEGs as well as REPAC in the NE region.

  It is not REPAC's job to micromanage. We are uncomfortable however about the Agency's developing resource problem and its likely knock on effects. To the extent that external funding is not available some radical thinking may be required by the EA management to achieve substantial cost savings.

  REPAC's role in this would properly be to give a view on the "outcome" priorities involved, ie possible changes in environmental emphasis and the likely public perceptions of them in the Region, rather than deciding the management mechanisms to achieve savings (though we have some ideas on possible mechanisms). At this stage it is unclear as to how much could be gleamed, or by when, from radical cost saving activities. It would however be unacceptable for the Agency's proactive non-regulatory work to be so seriously damaged that the Agency loses credibility.

  Flood Defence funding is another major issue. Historically Local Authorities have generally not passed on to Flood Defence Committees all the funds awarded to them for Flood Defence. As you have no doubt been advised already, this has led to a dangerous shortage of funds for Capital works in an era of climate change. Without adequate funds there is a significant risk of loss of life and damage to property in both the short and long term. There has been at least one specific instance in the Northern region where such funds have not been so voted by a Flood Defence Committee (the Northumbrian) against the advice of both the EA staff and myself as REPAC chair and member of the Flood Defence Committee and as a result a potentially life saving scheme has been delayed. After much protest by the Agency and the threat on my part to resign this particular situation in Northumbria is being repaired.

  Nationally however there remains a major funding problem in Flood Defence and the public, given the wide acceptance of climate change, are unlikely to be forgiving if there is a disaster which was foreseeable and could have been avoided.

2.  STRUCTURE OF REGIONAL COMMITTEES

  During the meeting I suggested that there should be a review of the structure of Regional Committees and was asked what my solution would be. I am not aware that I made all of the following clear: my suggestion (designed to reduce staff load and improve quality and representation) would be:

    —  Abolish all the present committees. It is worth noting that the AEGs are non statutory but invented by the EA itself.

    —  Establish a Regional Advisory Board (RAB) to take over the work of REPAC and the existing Regional Advisory Panel (RAP). Meetings monthly, members paid.

    —  Establish two or three AEGs in each region reporting to the RAB to take on the work of local Environmental Protection advice, Flood Defence and Fisheries (including conservation recreation etc). It would be these AEGs which would relate to the institutions of Regional Government and in our region could be made (nearly) co-terminous with them unlike the present NE REPAC. The AEGs would be advisory and not executive which would mean a change in the National funding arrangements for Flood Defence. Meetings quarterly, chairman member of RAB.

  The above would so far as I understand require significant primary legislation. Since this is likely to be some time away (at best), a short term solution might be for the EA to abolish the AEGs in their existing form since there seems be some uncertainty as to their present role.

Ian Bonas Chairman

December 1999


 
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