Examination of witnesses (Questions 452
TUESDAY 14 NOVEMBER 2000
LEA and MR
452. May I ask you both to introduce yourself
for the record, please.
(Mr Lea) I am John Lea. I am the Technical Services
Director for Greater Manchester Waste. Unfortunately, Stephen
Jenkinson was unable to be here because he had difficulties with
his transport arrangements this morning.
(Mr Gilbert) I am Andrew Gilbert. I am Chairman of
the North West Assembly's Regional Technical Advisory Body.
453. Do either of you want to make a statement
or are you happy for us to go straight to questions?
(Mr Lea) We are quite happy for you to go straight
454. How did Greater Manchester set about calculating
£2 billion to meet the 2010 targets?
(Mr Lea) In actual fact, we looked at the current
position on recycling and saw that there was 2.16 million tonnes
of waste being recycled at this moment in time. We looked towards
the recycling target to achieve the level for 25 per cent and
45 per cent of recovery; again, based on 3 per cent increase in
the waste stream as the previous witness. We estimated that to
be 7.9 million tonnes. With a review of the facilities, a desk
top study, we understood that to be a combination of mrf technology,
collection from the kerb side, and also possibly thermal recovery
and composting processes. We estimated that to be in the region
of £2 billion.
455. Could you send us an analysis and break-down
of your findings and your calculations of that to the Committee?
(Mr Lea) Yes.
456. Where on earth is all this money going
to come from?
(Mr Lea) Exactly. We understand that there is 140
457. It is not 2 billion, is it? You want 2
billion just for Manchester.
(Mr Lea) No, £2 billion is for the national position.
We understand there is £140 million available but, as you
can see, it is totally inadequate. There is a need to establish
a means by which we can find this.
458. Do you think, in all honesty, you have
set about it the right way?
(Mr Lea) In what respect?
459. The calculations. You are talking about
having various facilities to meet the needs of the targets for
the next ten years. Do you think you set about that the right
way? Did you have the right basic assumptions?
(Mr Lea) We believe so. Obviously we are just like
other local authorities. We looked at the waste arisings