Select Committee on Foreign Affairs Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence


APPENDIX 10

Memorandum submitted by Goodwin Air Plasma

  Further to your letter and our telephone conversation, I enclose some of the relevant parts of our complaint to the Parliamentary Ombudsman, and correspondence with the DTI in January this year.

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  Following this first case, we received a further order from Pakistan from a private company, for two of the same model. *** so we manufactured the machines and shipped them, as we had done many times previously. This resulted in the goods being seized by customs, the arrest of myself and my export administrator Barry Hales, and much legal expense and time wasted in consequence. When it became clear that we considered this a totally separate enquiry and we were not "attempting to evade export controls" no further action was taken, but we were made to apply for a licence in this case (which was refused) and were effectively told that we should contact the DTI before shipping any equipment to Pakistan.

  Subsequently we have had two orders for spares from existing customers and on each occasion have had to wait many months before receiving notification that "no licence is required". The most recent case has been going on for six months before my threat of the ombudsman produced a result within 24 hours.

  During this period, I would strongly suspect that some of our equipment has found its way to Pakistan though third parties (distributors) to whom we have sold quite legally, but over whom we have no control of sales, and to whom no restrictions are applied.

  I hope the enclosed gives some measure of our dissatisfaction and frustration, and I would be pleased to contribute further if this might lead to some clarification or easing of the position regarding export of our equipment to Pakistan and other markets to which, historically, we have had some small but significant success.

17 February 2000

4B.  WHAT ARE WE COMPLAINING ABOUT?

  Despite our products being freely available goods throughout the world, we have been requested to apply for export licences when shipping to Pakistan. To the best of our knowledge we are the only manufacturer in Europe so restricted. Having made an application in August 1999, being told that it should be cleared in time for shipment at the end of September, we are still waiting at the end of January 2000.

  Throughout this period, I have frequently tried to progress the application by telephone. On each occasion I have been given a different story and timescale, many of which have been contradictory and therefore could not be true. I have made notes on some of these calls separately.

  Because of this, I recently decided to put my enquiries in writing (by fax). I received no response at all prior to initiating this complaint, or to the date of submission. Copies of my faxes are enclosed.

  This shipment is spares for an existing customer to whom we freely exported the machine a few years ago.

  Our goods are of a type available from many manufacturers and distributors around the world. Spares for our equipment are also manufactured by companies who copy such parts (without authority!). According to our information, end user controls apply to Dual Use Goods, which are listed in regulations and do not include goods of the type we manufacture.

  In spite of the above, we are requested to consult the Department about any shipment to Pakistan (and potentially elsewhere). My enquiries amongst other manufacturers in our industry have revealed no others subject to such restraint of trade, indeed most are freely exporting to Pakistan.

  Our complaint is therefore in two parts,

    (1)  We are being subject to controls that should not be applied to our goods, are not being applied to other manufacturers of similar goods, and in any case are demonstrably ineffective.

    (2)  That the handling of our application is not being dealt with in a proper manner, on a reasonable timescale, or with honesty.

4C.  HOW HAS IT AFFECTED YOU?

  We have so far lost the value of this order (£4,609.40), incurred the interest charges thereon since July 1999, and spent much time and telephone/fax cost in pursuing the application. It has also interfered with other potential business in Pakistan and elsewhere to the detriment of this company relative to our competitors.

  It has also impacted on our cashflow, causing much time to be spent on dealing with these matters and personal stress to myself and other employees.

  Potentially, the customer could decide that if he cannot get spares for our machine, he will buy a machine from a different manufacturer, or would advise others wishing to cut metal to do so. Thus, there is the potential for loss of business in the future.

  I think the situation regarding the need to apply for export licences needs to be clarified, since our goods are not classified as Dual-use, and these restraints of trade are not being applied to others supplying similar goods. Once clarified, if they still are deemed to apply to our goods, they must be seen to apply to all such goods. Since welding and cutting equipment is so freely available worldwide, the only effective situation, in my view, is an official embargo.

  I think that if an application is necessary, it should be dealt with properly, on the timescale specified and with honesty.

  If, as a result of the Departments failure to act as above we lose business, they should be held liable for our losses. If they decided that by declining grant of a licence they could frustrate this claim, we would wish the reasons to be given full scrutiny.

SUMMARY OF SOME TELEPHONE CONTACTS WITH DTI ETC

APPROXIMATE DATE

  July 23 1999—Received L/C for spares order. Spoke to Dave Warboys at DTI who advised a licence application was required. Also said that I could not submit without an original End User Statement. Said process was currently taking 4 to 6 weeks.

  August 24—Finally received End User statement, and submitted application. Spoke to Dave Warboys regarding shipment deadline—end of September and was told that it should not be a problem. Told to phone Mina Hatwal in middle of month.

  Mid-late September—Spoke to Mina Hatwal on a number of occasions. She said that they were just waiting for the Foreign Office—the other two advisors had ok'ed it. Eventually gave me the contact number for FO Spoke to Michael Moynahan. Said the officer dealing with it would take about a week.

  October—Customer re-validated L/C to 15 December.

  November 4—Our solicitor tried to ask what was happening, but was "stonewalled".

  November 22—Spoke to DTI & FO (Paul Cleary?). FO advised that they had in fact cleared the shipment on 4 November, but that it had been referred back to them by the DTI for consideration following the "Lloyd Statement?". It should not take more than three days.

  November 26—Spoke to Paul at FO Said it had just been cleared and should be with DTI that day or Monday 29. On 3 December spoke to Mina Hatwal who claimed to be still waiting, but promised to investigate and phone back. She did not.

  December 6—Much to-ing and fro-ing between DTI (Mike Jones) and FO (Paul). FO insisting they had "signed it off" and DTI "not received it". Eventually agreed that it had been cleared but then said still awaiting Ministry of Defence. This had never been mentioned before.

  Contacted MP's office. They made enquiries and were told I should hear in two or three days. Two days later, Mina Hatwal said eight to 10 days.

  December 15— Mina Hatwal would give no information at all. When I asked if I should advise our customer to buy through a third party she consulted a colleague and said "two or three weeks".

  Three weeks would have been 5 January. I heard nothing, and since telephone promises seemed meaningless, I decided to proceed by fax, commencing on 14 January (copies enclosed).

REFERENCE: EXPORT LICENCE APPLICATION 5312

  It was suggested by Mike Jones that I could address my enquiries to you if I was not able to get a satisfactory response from the staff in your department.

  On 15 December, I was told by Mina Hatwal that I would hear the result of this application in two to three weeks. It is now over five weeks later.

  I decided that as my contacts by telephone have resulted in me being given conflicting stories (one might call them lies), I should proceed in writing; hence my fax to you last week.

  I note that I have not had the courtesy of a reply.

  Please note that should we suffer losses as the result of your inaction, then we shall take legal advice as to the possibility of recovering such losses.

  I wish to reinforce the position as I know it.

    (1)  Our goods are not Dual Use Goods.

    (2)  These goods are freely available throughout the world, other than directly from ourselves.

    (3)  Other manufacturers of similar goods are exporting freely to Pakistan.

    (4)  I am informed that the application was approved on 4 November, but referred back by yourself for "re-consideration".

    (5)  We were initially advised (in July 1999) that an application should take 4 to 6 weeks.

  I have, today, re-established contact with my MP and obtained the necessary information for making a complaint to the Parliamentary Ombudsman. In the absence of any response from your department and apparently little regard for the law or Code of Practice on Government Information, I would appear to have little alternative if this matter cannot be resolved in the very near future.

  Please consider this to be my formal complaint in this regard.

20 January 2000

Letter from DTI to Mr Goodwin, 21 January 2000

EXPORT LICENCE APPLICATION 5312-PAKISTAN

  Thank you for your fax of yesterday's date.

  We have now received the information we were awaiting before finalising processing of this application, and can confirm that no licence is required in this case. A letter is being sent to you separately formally confirming that this is the case.

  In the context of your fax of 20 January, I should be grateful if you would confirm whether you will be taking further action in relation to this case.


 
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