Select Committee on Foreign Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 120 - 125)

TUESDAY 16 MAY 2000

SIR JOHN KERR, KCMG, DR PETER COLLECOTT, MRS DENISE HOLT AND MR DAVID REDDAWAY

  120. You are not responsible but do you have a stewardship of it in any way?
  (Sir John Kerr) No, I do not.

  121. I see. So can you just clarify the inter-relationship? To what extent is MI6 Foreign Office?
  (Sir John Kerr) In terms of the Diplomatic Vote there is a complete cut off between the Diplomatic Service and the Home Civil Service on the one hand, and the Secret Intelligence Service on the other. I am not their Accounting Officer, I am not responsible for them.

  122. Okay, wrong forum, eh?
  (Sir John Kerr) The division has got even clearer than it used to be because we have agreed with those in the Secret Intelligence Service a full cost charging system for cases where they use our services and vice versa. A PES transfer has taken place. You can find it in these papers if you have a very good microscope but that was a PES transfer from us to them in order that they may in future pay the proper full cost charge for services previously given without charge. That is the only respect in which there has in the past been an overlap.

Chairman

  123. Sir John, you mentioned that we have not covered British Trade International. The reason is simple: the Committee will be meeting your colleague Sir David Wright on 6 July at a joint meeting with the DTI. One final sweep up matter. An objective step change in our relationship with Europe, both the European Union and candidate countries, what can we expect over the year or so ahead? What are your objectives and how do you intend to implement them?
  (Sir John Kerr) You can expect a huge amount of activity. The number of visits, contacts, meetings between us and our European partners has grown enormously. I do not know what the results will be. But I think myself that there have already been indications of the benefit. When the Bundesrat voted the right way, from the British point of view, on beef, I think that owed a good deal to contacts by Ambassador Lever but also contacts from London with a lot of State governments, contacts that have not happened enough in the past.

  124. With the la­nder representatives?
  (Sir John Kerr) With the La­nder representatives, exactly, represented in the Bundesrat. I do not want to try to pre-empt the hearings you will doubtless be having on the approach to the European Council in Feira at the end of this term, but I myself think that the Intergovernmental Conference is going rather well. I think that the Enlargement negotiations still need further speeding up, and on the old familiar theme of agriculture we still do need to effect further reform of the Common Agricultural Policy, for WTO reasons, for Enlargement reasons and budgetary reasons.

  125. As I say, we shall return to that with the Minister. Can I conclude in this way, Sir John: the Committee really felt that the report this year was a distinct improvement on its predecessor, and a lot of very helpful improvements have been made. We look to further improvements next year. We look forward also to a number of clarifications in terms of letters to colleagues. I think it has been a most valuable session. On behalf of the Committee, may I thank you and indeed your colleagues.
  (Sir John Kerr) Improvements to the report I deserve no credit for; she does.





 
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