Select Committee on Home Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum submitted by Mr Phil Cosgrove

THE FUTURE OF THE PUBLIC TRUST OFFICE

I am concerned about the scandalous way that the Public Trust Office (PTO) is to be broken up and the damaging effects this will have on the mentally ill in our society.

  There has been insufficient consultation from which to form responsible proposals for change to the service delivered by the PTO. The Chant proposals should have been referred to all levels of the judiciary, lay receivers, carers, clients, Trustees, and a proper representative sample of Local Authorities. Generally all those who have a stake in caring for the mentally incapacitated have not been given a proper say on the way they would wish the current service to be improved.

  The following are just some examples of the misguided way in which the Chant Report is being taken forward at the PTO:

  1.  Not one receiver, carer, Trustee or client has been consulted over how their investments are to be managed in the future. The PTO manages £4 billion worth of assets and the Patrick Gifford report (on the PTOs Investment Division) remains confidential!

  2.  Patrick Gifford who worked for Flemings suggests that the minors funds and the Securities work in the Court Funds Office (CFO) could "be conducted on an in-house basis possibly by Flemings". There is no indication of value to patients or certainty of impartial dealing. Two of the consultants interviewed for the Gifford report work for Flemings. (See Annex A[5]).

  3.  In the Receivership Division, where the PTO acts as receiver, there has been NO consultation with patients or carers.

  4.  In the Protection Division, which supervises the activities of lay receivers, there have only been 43 replies out of 22,000 to a bland newsletter, (See Appendix B*) which many receivers claim they never received.

  5.  In the CFO there has been a total failure to consult the Association of British Insurers who make the bulk of payments in satisfaction. Clearly the CFO meets a commercial need and it is insane to kill off an operation which returns £6 million to the Treasury.

  6.  Again in the CFO, there has been no consultation with rank and file judiciary who deal up front with minors and patients.

  7.  There has been a complete failure to consult Trust Lawyers over the legal practicalities of privatising Trust Division—further indication of the sheer superficiality of the Quinquennial Review (QQR).

  8.  Total failure to understand the nature of the "Who Decides" report recommending beefing up an independent and impartial public sector operation.

  9.  Little consideration has been given to Human Rights implications. All the more odd because this was a point made vehemently by the PAC at the oral hearing.

  10.  Work is already going ahead, prior to the Lord Chancellor's announcement, on disposal of cases where the client has assets of less then £10,000. No arrangements have been put in place to protect these funds. It is estimated that up to 25 per cent of the caseload may be disposed of in this manner.

  11.  Substantial numbers of skilled and experienced staff are being diverted to other duties to do with the implementation of the QQR recommendations. There has been a moratorium imposed on recruitment and promotion. These factors mean that an intolerable burden is placed on the remaining staff who are committed to delivering a service under impossible conditions.

  12.  Staff feel pressurised into leaving the office by unmanageable workloads and uncertainty about the future. Approximately 100 agency casuals have been taken on in a desperate attempt to maintain a basic service. There is an obvious risk in this strategy from the point of view of confidentiality and fraud prevention.

  13.  It is proposed to set up an Agency dealing with Enduring Powers of Attorney (EPAs) in two years time. What is the point of abolishing the PTO and setting such a new agency after getting rid of the majority of the skilled and experienced staff now in post? And how much will it cost?

  14.  How much will it cost to implement the QQR and how much would it cost just to keep and properly resource the PTO?

  15.  Newspapers have reported that both the Inland Revenue and the Benefits Agency have had their accounts qualified by the National Audit Office. It is also reported that the Inland Revenue has lost £171 million of tax payers money in purchasing their new computer system. Yet it is proposed to hand the accounting functions to these two departments.

  16.  There is a conflict of interest in that the main business of these two departments is to sort out social security claims and tax returns. Can they really appeal against their own decisions?

  17.  There is also a conflict of interest inherent in the proposal that Social Services Departments should be asked to administer those cases where clients are resident in homes sponsored by the Local Authority. When it comes to checking whether the correct residential fees are being paid to the Council, who will check that the assessment is correct?

  18.  Cuts of £16 million are being proposed in the Court Service Agency. It is therefore difficult to see how any proposals to move functions of the PTO to the Court Service could be financially viable let alone improve the service to the PTOs clients.

  What is needed is proper consultation with the "Real Stakeholders" before any decision to implement the Chant report.

CONSULTATION AFTER IMPLEMENTATION IS WORTHLESS!

  The Lord Chancellor says that we must consider very carefully the full implications of any changes we make. I do not believe that the full implications are being considered or property costed.

  I believe that the implementation of Chant will prove costly to the taxpayer while at the same time prove financially lucrative to the City and Solicitors such as our former Chief Executive. At the same time it will prove disastrous for the most vulnerable members of our society—the mentally incapacitated.

Phil Cosgrove

31 March 2000


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